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The Lincoln Project: Moms (Original Post) catbyte Aug 2020 OP
K&R dmr Aug 2020 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #2
Bunker Boy really? Attacking Moms? - What a worthless coward. AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2020 #3
To Me, THat's One Of The Best Me. Aug 2020 #4
I love the wall of Moms Gothmog Aug 2020 #5
Superb. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #6
TLP pulls no punches. Thank you, Lincoln Project. Hekate Aug 2020 #7
Brilliant Ad...Thank You for posting... Stuart G Aug 2020 #8
Great video...Kick Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #9
Wow. Got me. byronius Aug 2020 #10
One of their best ads yet. R&K MerryBlooms Aug 2020 #11
Once again.... Upthevibe Aug 2020 #12
these guys are NOT the enemy. paul91046 Aug 2020 #13
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Aug 2020 #14
Wall of Moms! cp Aug 2020 #15
This really brings it home to this mom, he is out to get us & hates us. lark Aug 2020 #16
That one has me sobbing for our poor country. sinkingfeeling Aug 2020 #17
I can't wait for their "Dads" follow-up! fierywoman Aug 2020 #18
Will it Affect White People? qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #19
Did you watch it all the way through? GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #21
Yes. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #22
And it does mention African American moms. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #23
African-American Moms qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #26
That's been my 'go-to' quote for the last 20 years. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #29
I am working on it. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #31
They will be moved. And here's a thing about The Lincoln Project guys. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #33
I admire you. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #39
As an African American, this ad is not targeting me. I find it very effective towards it intended Dream Girl Aug 2020 #24
Exactly. We win when it's Americans vs Neo-Confederates... Steven Maurer Aug 2020 #38
So sorry it does nothing for you. It's addressed to all of us.. Cha Aug 2020 #27
Black moms have been protesting for decades. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #28
As a white person - it does nothing for me. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #30
Those white moms are the ones it's aimed at. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #34
I believe that's the last point I made. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #35
It's midnight here and I've had some white wine. I missed your last line. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #36
No problem. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #37
This ad rocks! gademocrat7 Aug 2020 #20
Black, White, Latino, Asian, & Gay Moms! Rt! TY catbyte.. Cha Aug 2020 #25
" You need a time out" lol Mom language grantcart Aug 2020 #46
Kick dalton99a Aug 2020 #32
I've seen a lot of political ads this cycle but THIS ONE SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #40
Is it true that Trumpkin is using our own troops against peaceful MOM protesters & veterans? Illumination Aug 2020 #41
Hi and welcome to DU, Illumination! summer_in_TX Aug 2020 #42
summer_in_TX Illumination Aug 2020 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #43
I'm not a mom, but what I see here is cowardly men attacking peaceful women who are smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #44
KnR...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2020 #45

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,237 posts)
3. Bunker Boy really? Attacking Moms? - What a worthless coward.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 02:17 PM
Aug 2020

That's always been Bunker Boy's m.o. - a serial abuser of women. He threatens, isolates, hides, lies, whines, blames - a f-ing coward.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
7. TLP pulls no punches. Thank you, Lincoln Project.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 02:41 PM
Aug 2020

I don’t use this emoji much any more, but here’s to you

paul91046

(11 posts)
13. these guys are NOT the enemy.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 03:03 PM
Aug 2020

we certainly have differences with them but ...the enemy of my enemy... the best way to get to trump is mock him. they know that. IF America survives this (i give it a 50/50 shot) we can resume our battle against these conservative members of the CRUEL PARTY---i suggest that be how they're referred to going forward.....THE CRUEL PARTY

cp

(6,616 posts)
15. Wall of Moms!
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 03:09 PM
Aug 2020

We will be voting Nov. 3 (and earlier to get our mail-in ballots on time). Count on it!

lark

(23,061 posts)
16. This really brings it home to this mom, he is out to get us & hates us.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 03:27 PM
Aug 2020

If we are not actively fluffing him, he will kill us for fun and sport and political profit. He will lie and call us terrorists, when all we are doing is telling the truth and standing up to his stormtrumpers.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
19. Will it Affect White People?
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 04:36 PM
Aug 2020

As an African-American, this does nothing for me. There's nothing special about white moms compared to the other protesters.

I'd like to know what it invokes in white people.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
23. And it does mention African American moms.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 04:48 PM
Aug 2020

The Lincoln Project hits all the right notes with these ads.
At the moment they are excellent allies.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
26. African-American Moms
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:05 PM
Aug 2020

Have been protesting for decades about the murders of black people at the hands of whites. And police have been violently confronting them for years, frequently with no press coverage at all. "Riots get covered, not protests."

Nothing about this ad is new for me as a person of color.

This is the government that put children in cages.

Government abuse of the people - not news.

Government abuse of WHITE people - new news.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
29. That's been my 'go-to' quote for the last 20 years.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:18 PM
Aug 2020

Along with Hillel the Elder -
If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
If I am only for myself, what am I?
And, if not now, when?
If we are only for ourselves, what are we?

We certainly aren’t a society.
Without mutual responsibility, we’re a bunch of people fighting each other endlessly or, to quote Thomas Hobbes, we “are in that condition which is called war; and such a war is of every man against every man.”

Look, I've been at this stuff since the late 1960's. I've marched, I've protested, I've seen this all before, almost as bad as it is now. Don't discount allies. We need as many as we can get.

And remember - The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Peace.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
31. I am working on it.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:30 PM
Aug 2020

I am a cynic. I think the reaction of white people to the murder of George Floyd is temporary. I don't know how long it will last, but I don't trust it. I think part of my cynicism is how quickly people rejected "Defund the Police".

To me, it is like how DUers feel about the Lincoln Project ads. Right now, Democrats and Lincoln Project are allies, against a common cause. But 4 years from now, enemies again.

Four years from now, will we have beaten police brutality and the unfair justice system? Or will #BlackLivesMatter have lost its power to move people?

Yeah, real cynical.

BUT! The audience of the ad is white moms. And I hope they are moved.

YOUR QUOTE IS WONDERFUL.

Didn't want you to think I missed it.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
33. They will be moved. And here's a thing about The Lincoln Project guys.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:50 PM
Aug 2020

They have jumped ship in so many ways. Very few Republicans will trust them ever again. They have made themselves pariahs in their own tribe.

Look, as I said, I've been doing this stuff since the 1960's and it's a constant struggle. It's a cyclical thing, a bit like surfing. There are ups and downs and some days you just want to give up. But on the days when it's three steps forward - knowing that tomorrow it's going to be one step back - those are the days when it's all worth it.

Of course as a friend of mine says: I try to stay cynical, but some days I just can't keep up.

Glad you liked the Hillel quote.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
39. I admire you.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

Since the 1960's eh?

I went to the March on Washington... in my mother's womb.

I will remember your words.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
24. As an African American, this ad is not targeting me. I find it very effective towards it intended
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 04:59 PM
Aug 2020

target of white, college educated women. It is a fine ad.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
38. Exactly. We win when it's Americans vs Neo-Confederates...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

...they win if they can make it whites vs minorities.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
27. So sorry it does nothing for you. It's addressed to all of us..
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:10 PM
Aug 2020
"Black, White, Latino, Asian, & Gay Moms" and it's quite effective.

Retweeted and Mahalo, TLP!

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
28. Black moms have been protesting for decades.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:17 PM
Aug 2020

There was an anti-lynching campaign in 1892. It's just not new to us. And the police brutality that is perpetrated on black women protesting is nothing new to us.

People are saying it's an ad targeted at the white moms who voted for him in 2016.

That makes sense to me.

I'm just surprised at the intensity of the reactions I'm seeing on DU.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
30. As a white person - it does nothing for me.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:26 PM
Aug 2020

But:

1. I tire easily of one group of people being elevated over others (whether it is white moms, or vets, or christians, etc.) This feels like another of those

2. It seems to me to center whites, at a time when blacks should be playing central roles. (I got blasted for saying that a week agor or so. But the people blasting me/that thought whose race I know are all white.)


That said - it may be an effective counter to white suburban moms with a conscience who are offended by Trump's promise to save suburbia for them.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
34. Those white moms are the ones it's aimed at.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:51 PM
Aug 2020

Don't forget who made the ad. Guys who have been appealing to that demographic and who understand that demographic.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
36. It's midnight here and I've had some white wine. I missed your last line.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 05:55 PM
Aug 2020

Sorry.
Plus I've got eye floaters.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
37. No problem.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 06:00 PM
Aug 2020

I was directly responding to the question asked, before explaining why it might be useful, anyway.

summer_in_TX

(2,710 posts)
42. Hi and welcome to DU, Illumination!
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 10:48 PM
Aug 2020

Yes, all too true.

Not strictly troops which refer to military branches. These are militarized law enforcement put together by the DHS under Barr and Trump.

They often have no identifying insignia and wear camouflage inappropriately in a city environment. The video footage is real and went on night after night, drawing more and more resisters, including a wall of vets to back up the wall of moms.

They attacked peaceful protesters in Portland with clubs, tear gas, kidnapped people off the streets and grilled them, photographing them and their belongings before releasing them without charges. No due process.

Protests only increased. Oregon's public officials finally got them to back off and leave last Friday I believe.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
47. summer_in_TX
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

summer_in_TX
Thanks for the nice welcome! My heart really goes out to the protesters. They're all really making a difference. Hope the corrupt kidnappers have their insurance paid up! What they've done is unconstitutional & illegal. Justice needs to prevail there. We also need to impeach Barr. Trump should have been impeached. Believe lots of Republicans are regretting the fact that they didn't stand up to Trump. Democracy dies in darkness & thank goodness for "good trouble"! Take care.

Response to catbyte (Original post)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
44. I'm not a mom, but what I see here is cowardly men attacking peaceful women who are
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:02 AM
Aug 2020

simply standing up for their rights. It's simply another demonstration of the misogyny of the right-wing. They have no respect for women whatsoever, regardless of their race.

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