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FM123

(10,053 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:30 PM Aug 2020

Manhattan DA Suggests He Is Investigating Trump Org For Fraud

(Talking Points Memo) The Manhattan District Attorney’s office is probing the Trump Organization over fraud allegations, state prosecutors suggested in a Monday court filing.


The probe covers allegations of potential bank and insurance fraud, wrote Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance in a motion to dismiss a federal case that President Trump filed to block a subpoena that New York prosecutors obtained for the President’s tax returns, which are held by a third-party accounting firm. The Supreme Court dismissed a challenge from President Trump to the subpoena last month, but left room for him to continue objecting to the demand for documents at the district court level.

Vance cited news reports and an article referencing former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony in the filing. At a hearing before the House Oversight Committee last year, Cohen alleged that Trump would change the book value of his properties for lenders and insurers. The filing does not appear to cite a specific act of alleged wrongdoing as the focus of the investigation, however, instead arguing that “undisputed information in the public record” invalidates Trump’s earlier accusation that the subpoena was “wildly overbroad.”

Rather, Vance argued, there have been “public allegations of possible criminal activity at Plaintiff’s New York County-based Trump Organization dating back over a decade.” “Although the Office bears no affirmative burden to justify the breadth of the Mazars Subpoena, and although Plaintiff is not entitled to know the scope and nature of the grand jury investigation, publicly available information itself establishes a satisfactory predicate for the Mazars Subpoena,” Vance argued.

Trump asked a Manhattan federal judge to throw out the subpoena last year, and re-upped the request last month after the Supreme Court rejected his argument that his status as President rendered him “immune from criminal process” but gave him leave to file further arguments. Trump’s first round of arguments saw one of his attorneys claim that, were the President to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, police could only investigate the crime until after the expiry of his presidential term.

Read the filing here: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/manhattan-da-says-he-is-investigating-trump-org-for-fraud

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Manhattan DA Suggests He Is Investigating Trump Org For Fraud (Original Post) FM123 Aug 2020 OP
Sweet malaise Aug 2020 #1
Yes, lock them all up! FM123 Aug 2020 #2
.... CatWoman Aug 2020 #9
Oh thank you for that video! FM123 Aug 2020 #10
.... CatWoman Aug 2020 #13
Kick demmiblue Aug 2020 #3
How about some justice, for once in his life? Blue Owl Aug 2020 #4
Isn't Trump always being investigated for fraud? Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #5
This suggest a broader investigation, the whole company not just Trump sunonmars Aug 2020 #6
Why does it take so long to investigate something so obvious... lame54 Aug 2020 #7
Don't let him wiggle out of this. Go get him, and his little family too. nt crickets Aug 2020 #8
Barr will step in and either crush it or get all the findings and tip off tRUMP's team. nt SayItLoud Aug 2020 #11
Cy Vance Suburban Warrior Aug 2020 #12
. Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2020 #14
Must be trying to find all of it, because it was obvious since at least Trump University? Brainfodder Aug 2020 #15

FM123

(10,053 posts)
2. Yes, lock them all up!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

I was watching MSNBC news when I thought I heard them say the Manhattan DA was asking the court to toss out Trump's tax lawsuit - I couldn't believe my ears!

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
6. This suggest a broader investigation, the whole company not just Trump
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

which means them all, Ivanka, Eric, JR, all the company execs........this could really snowball, good tactic, pull the low hanging fruit to snag the big ones......

lame54

(35,262 posts)
7. Why does it take so long to investigate something so obvious...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

When so many get pulled over and get booked that night

Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
12. Cy Vance
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:32 PM
Aug 2020

could have indicted Ivanka and Don Jr. for fraud in the Trump Soho Condo scam. He balked then after a nice campaign contribution. Hopefully he follows through this time.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ivanka-donald-trump-jr-close-to-being-charged-felony-fraud

In the spring of 2012, Donald Trump’s two eldest children, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., found themselves in a precarious legal position. For two years, prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney’s office had been building a criminal case against them for misleading prospective buyers of units in the Trump SoHo, a hotel and condo development that was failing to sell. Despite the best efforts of the siblings’ defense team, the case had not gone away. An indictment seemed like a real possibility. The evidence included emails from the Trumps making clear that they were aware they were using inflated figures about how well the condos were selling to lure buyers.

In one email, according to four people who have seen it, the Trumps discussed how to coordinate false information they had given to prospective buyers. In another, according to a person who read the emails, they worried that a reporter might be onto them. In yet another, Donald Jr. spoke reassuringly to a broker who was concerned about the false statements, saying that nobody would ever find out, because only people on the email chain or in the Trump Organization knew about the deception, according to a person who saw the email

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