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The # Of Dead In Beirut Must Be In The 4 Figures (Original Post) sfstaxprep Aug 2020 OP
Do we know what caused the explosion? Squinch Aug 2020 #1
Nope sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #2
Not necessarily A HERETIC I AM Aug 2020 #3
According to Arab News it was in an area that housed highly explosive materials. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #13
Ammonium nitrate in storage facility at site of Port of Beirut explosion: Minister Celerity Aug 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Disaffected Aug 2020 #18
Thank you. Please, oh please, this was human error and not an attack. Squinch Aug 2020 #21
Yes, Like The 155K+ Dead In The U.S. - Human Error & Not An Attack sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #24
Are you being sarcastic? Wouldn't you prefer the explosion was not an attack? Squinch Aug 2020 #25
Fireworks factory? mikeysnot Aug 2020 #4
Based on some of the videos, that's what I was thinking... JHB Aug 2020 #15
Nitrate fertilizer which had been stored in a port warehouse after being seized from a ship RockRaven Aug 2020 #5
Sounds Like A Lack Of Precaution ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #6
Even an intense fire in the warehouse can set it off: Disaffected Aug 2020 #12
Texas City, 1947 ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #16
Sounds Like a Mix Between Timothy McVeigh and 1947 Texas City Explosion which Killed about 600 Stallion Aug 2020 #9
Never would have thought that underpants Aug 2020 #10
Similiar to that 2013 Explosion in West, Texas South of Dallas Felt 60 Miles Away Stallion Aug 2020 #20
Biggest non-military explosion on record? Mopar151 Aug 2020 #7
Um, it was a shipload of confiscated fertilizer Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #17
Agreed with RockRaven. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #8
That is horrific. CentralMass Aug 2020 #11
They are reporting it was tons of Sodium Nitrate stored there lettucebe Aug 2020 #19
An ammonium nitrate explosion would explain Disaffected Aug 2020 #22
It Was Yellow For A While ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #23
that massive shockwave can kill. pansypoo53219 Aug 2020 #26

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
2. Nope
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:22 PM
Aug 2020

Some started to suspect Israel, but Hezbollah disputed that.

Obviously there was some sort of weapons or explosives being stored there.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
3. Not necessarily
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:25 PM
Aug 2020

Industrial cause is my guess. Remember that huge explosion in Shang Hai or wherever it was about a year or two ago?

Industrial accident.

I’ll wager $20 that’s what it was. No terrorism or nefariousness involved

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
13. According to Arab News it was in an area that housed highly explosive materials.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:08 PM
Aug 2020

Nothing more descriptive than that, though. You can see in the videos that there are mini explosions taking place right before the massive explosion, kind of like sparklers in the smoke.

Lebanon's internal security chief Abbas Ibrahim said the explosions took place in a section of the port housing highly-explosive materials.


Link to article

Response to Celerity (Reply #14)

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
24. Yes, Like The 155K+ Dead In The U.S. - Human Error & Not An Attack
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 06:47 PM
Aug 2020

Because it feels much better knowing it can be blamed on complete stupidity and carelessness.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
15. Based on some of the videos, that's what I was thinking...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:13 PM
Aug 2020

After the first explosion and before the big one, from some angles you can see a lot of small secondary bursts, like fireworks going off. And the cloud from the big one had that weird reddish color.

Although there are probably other explanations for those if it was an industrial site (for some other purpose) or munitions storage. It just reminded me of other fireworks-factory fire footage I've seen.

RockRaven

(14,950 posts)
5. Nitrate fertilizer which had been stored in a port warehouse after being seized from a ship
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:47 PM
Aug 2020

many, many months ago. At least that's the official word thus far about the big explosion. The other fire/explosions proceeding the big one, I haven't heard an official story about yet. But it might be out there already.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
6. Sounds Like A Lack Of Precaution
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:51 PM
Aug 2020

Ammonium nitrate, I bulk, is never supposed to be stored within 500 yards of any possible source of shock.
Unless the minor explosion was a terror bomb, they had detonantable storage to close to that he another.
If this was an industrial accident, I was an epic F' up.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
12. Even an intense fire in the warehouse can set it off:
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:04 PM
Aug 2020

Similar to what happened to the ship in Texas years ago.

Good grief, this has happened often enough that you would think folks would be more aware of the danger.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
16. Texas City, 1947
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:13 PM
Aug 2020

They decided that a carelessly tossed cigarette started a fire on that ship. I watched a documentary about that. It was really good. They actually think the decomposition hydrogen is what exploded, then everything else went off. Including a ship full of it in the port.
People in Galveston, 10 miles away, were knocked down and thousands of windows broke.
The for has to be very hot for detonation to occur. But, if one part of it gets to decomposition temperature, the volume of nitrogen & hydrogen gets released at supersonic velocity.
That the shock wave that set off everything else.
It takes a lot of energy to make it detonate, but when it does, look out.
Now get this:
This is such a common industrial event, there's a Wikipedia page dedicated to them

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_nitrate_disasters

underpants

(182,720 posts)
10. Never would have thought that
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:03 PM
Aug 2020

Makes sense. I just thought it was an attack. That was a massive explosion

Mopar151

(9,977 posts)
7. Biggest non-military explosion on record?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:55 PM
Aug 2020

AFIK, It's the shipload of fertilizer that exploded at Texas City, TX, in the late 1940's.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. Agreed with RockRaven.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 04:55 PM
Aug 2020

Nitrate Fertilizer would be my guess.

Texas City(if memory serves) was destroyed when an entire ship of it exploded in the harbor.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
22. An ammonium nitrate explosion would explain
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:19 PM
Aug 2020

the distinct reddish tinge of the smoke (caused by nitrogen dioxide, a breakdown product of ammonium nitrate).

That's gotta be it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
23. It Was Yellow For A While
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

That suggests sulfur or sodium compounds.
As in, maybe they had stored near each other, that shouldn't be near each other.

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