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Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:20 AM

If Trump and his racist supporters think that they can easily win a civil war against Blue cities...

They are kidding themselves. Yes they may have tons of training with arms, but since they are often from rural and exurban areas, they have little experience with denser urban environments, not to mention they know little about the terrain they would be fighting in. Anyone who remembers discussions about war in Iraq would know of the dangers of urban warfare. They would likely also be up against black and hispanic gangs that know what they don't know about the urban environment and their neighborhood, and many blacks and hispanics nowadays have been trained in the U.S. Military. Also, dense urban cities like NYC, Philly, and San Francisco are packed enough for people to easily hide in crevices and rooftops and easily throw things to people on the streets. Imagine how easily it would be for people in places with buildings as high as five to 10 floors to shoot and throw things to people in the streets...

Of course, hopefully the worst that will happen is that Trumps supporters will be exposed as blustering cowards (all hat, no cattle), and Trump's supposedly mighty army would buckle and he will be frog marched out of office.

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Reply If Trump and his racist supporters think that they can easily win a civil war against Blue cities... (Original post)
DSandra Aug 2020 OP
dalton99a Aug 2020 #1
DSandra Aug 2020 #3
zaj Aug 2020 #2
DSandra Aug 2020 #4
pfitz59 Aug 2020 #9
roamer65 Aug 2020 #5
Eko Aug 2020 #6
JI7 Aug 2020 #7
Eko Aug 2020 #8
Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #10
regnaD kciN Aug 2020 #11
ms liberty Aug 2020 #12
quickesst Aug 2020 #13

Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:24 AM

1. They'll turn around and go home when they can't find a place to park

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:29 AM

3. Not to mention get easily stuck in dead ends where they are easy prey

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:28 AM

2. The end result is balkanization, not a land war.

We would break up as a nation.

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Response to zaj (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:32 AM

4. That's not fun to them

They are hungry to use their weapons

I personally though won't mind, being a Californian, since I'm sick of having RW idiots in the heartland keeping America stupid and dragging down every state.

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Response to zaj (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 02:51 AM

9. The US is too big to govern

under the current system. It will likely fragment into power blocs...

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:34 AM

5. Plus the rural areas are depopulating at a fairly rapid rate.

The jobs are in the urban areas.

I can see it more and more in the rural area of MI where I grew up. The exodus to the urban areas is picking up speed.

The CV pandemic is only going to make it worse for the rurals. No adequate internet for work from home or schooling of their children. Overburdened health care services, etc.

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:55 AM

6. They might be able to.

Depends on what the military does. The majority of the military is conservative in the troops and a even higher percentage in the officers. Thinking they will do their constitutional duty is also suspect, the feds in Portland didn't have a problem with that at all apparently. The police pretty much the same thing. I have friends and family in both, its a them against us mentality almost through and through. We are the scary communists and they are the patriots, facts be damned. We have the numbers and the youth, they have the arms and the training. The first rule of any type of conflict is to actually know the facts and not let your bias lead you to disaster. Don't let your bias do that.
Eko.

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Response to Eko (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:56 AM

7. Do we know for sure who those Portland Thugs were ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:58 AM

8. They were federal agents one way or the other.

Right?

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:05 AM

10. About those gangs you mentioned. They aren't all Black and Hispanic.

In most big cities, there are street gangs made up of / representing every race.

However, the context of your point about the street gangs knowing their respective turfs is spot on.

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:23 AM

11. That's fine, if all we're doing is facing the NRA Pickup Truck MAGA Brigade...

...because they'd be too scared to enter into the cities and face a situation where there were "too many" dark-skinned people out there. What you'd need to be concerned about is the NPTMB causing enough chaos in the suburbs and rural areas for their hero to declare a state of emergency and send the military in...because, believe me, you're not going to be able to face down the Army, even in familiar cities...

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:41 AM

12. You think the Trumpers are only in the rural and xurban areas

And none of them rural n' exurban people know anything at all about them big cities?
Bless your heart. If your fantasy comes true, you're in for a rude awakening.

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Response to DSandra (Original post)

Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:04 AM

13. I just can't take this as seriously....

.... as some people do. I'll just post what I wrote in another thread.

Couple of questions and observations
First, who are these trump defenders going to shoot? Their own family who may have Republicans and Democrats among them? Federal Marshals? The FBI or Secret Service? The National Guard who may be called out? How about the United States military who, after listening to the many former military leaders, I have no doubt they will perform their duty and defend the constitution. Without uniforms, or some defining marks or badges, how are they going to know who's the enemy and who is an ally among the civilian population? Just a few of the questions concerning what I personally consider to be maybe 5 to 10% wackos to deal with, and a 90 to 95% bullshit scenario.

There is a reason why Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Lawrence O'Donnell, Don Lemon, and military experts are not screaming at the top of their lungs concerning the coming crisis that a few fear-mongers are stoking. I'll take this crap seriously when the former generals and admirals, who will undoubtedly have inside information, start ringing the alarm, and tells us we have lost the military.

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