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D.C. Journalists In Awe Of Australian Reporter Able To Speak To Trump Without Succumbing To ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2020 OP
He was prepared with facts and didn't let that Trump lie and get away with it! The Wielding Truth Aug 2020 #1
He also didn't just accept Trump's framing of issues gratuitous Aug 2020 #6
"Animal magnetism"???? WTF????? AZ8theist Aug 2020 #22
No kidding! FoxNewsSucks Aug 2020 #25
The Onion n/t moonscape Aug 2020 #26
Psst - it's the Onion. scarletwoman Aug 2020 #27
OH SHIT!!!! MISSED THAT!!!!!!!! AZ8theist Aug 2020 #30
You're not alone. It appears that many other posters on this thread missed it, too. scarletwoman Aug 2020 #31
It comes from today's reality pissing all over satire...... AZ8theist Aug 2020 #32
Ha! True. Joinfortmill Aug 2020 #36
And Swan wasn't fawning and deferential like much of the US media still is. calimary Aug 2020 #39
Gosh, I thought he was from the UK .. Iliyah Aug 2020 #2
BBC correspondents also put American reporters to shame. Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #3
I'd like to see/hear Trump on HardTalk. mwooldri Aug 2020 #12
Clearly Aussie - listen to his accent. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #13
Jonathan Swan is Australian, working for Axios, an American news site IronLionZion Aug 2020 #24
When he said "everybody", how hard was it to ask "Name one" rickford66 Aug 2020 #4
"People are saying" chriscan64 Aug 2020 #8
Trump actually does have raw animal magnetism, believe it or not. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #5
More like dead animal magnetism. Stinky and drawing flies. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #11
This and the question "why cant you do this " should be emailed to any reporter Fullduplexxx Aug 2020 #7
Maybe they will see it and take the hint. chriscan64 Aug 2020 #9
could he do Meet The Press or aren't brass balls allowed? dem4decades Aug 2020 #10
Brass balls? On a show run by Chuckie Todd? Paladin Aug 2020 #17
i meant instead of Chuckie. dem4decades Aug 2020 #34
Speed the day.... (nt) Paladin Aug 2020 #37
I was half-seriously wondering if Swan had studied Steven Hassan's book Mike 03 Aug 2020 #14
The Onion putting actual journalists to shame. Dem2theMax Aug 2020 #15
U.S. reporters have to worry about their own access and their networks access. NCDem47 Aug 2020 #16
Yes, Swan was fearless, and I agree, it's because he knew he'd never get another Mike 03 Aug 2020 #18
I'm surprised The Onion hasn't just given up by now. Reality is more bizarre than they can dream up catbyte Aug 2020 #19
They should be malaise Aug 2020 #20
Hilarious! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #21
Hell this is how llashram Aug 2020 #23
Well done by the Onion!! scarletwoman Aug 2020 #28
Is Swan a naturalized American as well? Hope so because I fully expect Dear Leader to have Vinca Aug 2020 #29
According to Wikipedia: The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #40
both siderism is dead DIVINEprividence Aug 2020 #33
In a career in manufacturing years ago Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2020 #35
Raw Animals are Smarter Bullshit. Cha Aug 2020 #38

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
1. He was prepared with facts and didn't let that Trump lie and get away with it!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:53 PM
Aug 2020

Why does our Press not push him on the truth?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. He also didn't just accept Trump's framing of issues
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:07 PM
Aug 2020

Trump was at a loss to respond when Swan didn't accept the framing of the Covid-19 deaths. Trump could only sputter "You can't do that," and Swan was ready with "Why not?" So Donald leaped off that point like it was lava, and tried to start another gish gallop, but Swan was ahead of him again. I don't have the slightest idea why American reporters (with a couple of notable exceptions like Yamiche Alcindor) can't do what Swan did.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
22. "Animal magnetism"???? WTF?????
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:03 PM
Aug 2020

How about unbridled stupidity, imbecility, and outright senility?????????????????

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
25. No kidding!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
Aug 2020

He's got the magnetism and appeal of an overstuffed orange trashbag full of warm squishy feces wrapped in a suit and tie.

That's gotta be satirical, but I do wonder why DC journalists still keep putting up with his asshole behavior. It's gone way past just wanting to keep their job and access.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
30. OH SHIT!!!! MISSED THAT!!!!!!!!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

Sorry, brothers, missed the Onion part.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

But you could almost sense a DC reporter on the Reich Wing side saying that, right?
Guess that's why the Onion is so successful...spot on parody.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
32. It comes from today's reality pissing all over satire......
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:38 PM
Aug 2020

And, as a skeptic, I should be more investigative of anything on line....

calimary

(81,211 posts)
39. And Swan wasn't fawning and deferential like much of the US media still is.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:31 PM
Aug 2020

If this was "Year #1" of the first trump term, and everybody was still naive enough to try to give him the benefit of the doubt that his track record of failure, lies, distortion, and general failure since then no longer applies (and that he's proved by now that he no longer deserves), that would be one thing.

But we're well into YEAR FOUR now, and the track record of lies, deceit, distraction, distortion, blaming-somebody-else, and spectacular general FAILURE is thoroughly and credibly well-documented.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
12. I'd like to see/hear Trump on HardTalk.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

Stephen Sackur is OK... I don't think Trump could handle Zeinab Badawi though... female, mid-eastern, actual journalist... he couldn't stand a chance.

Now Sacha Baron Cohen - if he played an actual reporter and asked actual proper questions... I think that would be interesting too. Or if Jeremy Paxman came out of retirement - I'm sure he could repeat his Michael Howard trick of asking the same question multiple times until a straight answer is given or whether he thought he flogged that dead horse enough (he asked the then Home Secretary the same question 12 times in a row, with different answers each time).

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
4. When he said "everybody", how hard was it to ask "Name one"
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

Or when he said "You know", the reply should have been "No I don't".

We've been waiting four years for someone to ask the obvious.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
5. Trump actually does have raw animal magnetism, believe it or not.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

Of course, that animal is a rabid badger, so...

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
14. I was half-seriously wondering if Swan had studied Steven Hassan's book
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:35 PM
Aug 2020
The Cult of Trump and Hassan's meticulous breakdown of techniques Trump uses to frame and reframe issues, because he was staggeringly good at grabbing the frame back from Trump and placing it where it belongs.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
15. The Onion putting actual journalists to shame.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:46 PM
Aug 2020

The irony.

If only actual journalists would feel some shame, and start doing their jobs.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
16. U.S. reporters have to worry about their own access and their networks access.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:48 PM
Aug 2020

Hence softball questioning. Wallace at FOX has given Trump a harder time.

While AXIOS is U.S. based, Swan conducted the interview like he’d be fine if he never interviewed Trump again.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
18. Yes, Swan was fearless, and I agree, it's because he knew he'd never get another
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:54 PM
Aug 2020

shot at him (and didn't care), and he knew a confrontational interview would have no adverse impact on his career, and that reprisals could be laughed off.

catbyte

(34,372 posts)
19. I'm surprised The Onion hasn't just given up by now. Reality is more bizarre than they can dream up
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:56 PM
Aug 2020

these days.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
29. Is Swan a naturalized American as well? Hope so because I fully expect Dear Leader to have
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

him picked up and shipped back to the old country if he isn't.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,673 posts)
40. According to Wikipedia:
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:59 PM
Aug 2020

He married Politico reporter Betsy Woodruff on September 14, 2019. He intends to become a citizen of the United States.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
33. both siderism is dead
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:42 PM
Aug 2020

Journalist perhaps felt this need to be even handed but after Cheeto Mussolini all bets are off

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,566 posts)
35. In a career in manufacturing years ago
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:10 PM
Aug 2020

we would have meetings to go over where we were in relation to the schedule, test dates, material shortages, etc,etc,etc if you've been in that environment you know what status meetings are like. Watching the interview I was transported back to when we had a very sharp VP in charge of manufacturing. Different people would show up and get called on to explain where their department stood in relation to commitments, due dates etc.
Invariably there would be someone who tried to bullshit the boss and throw up graphs and charts as if that's all it took. The VP would spend 5-10 seconds looking at them and if it was wrong, or didn't support the position as stated, he'd shoot it down. More than one person stood there grasping at straws when told 'go back to your area and don't return to this meeting until you've got your facts straight'
That was exactly what we were seeing except Jonathan just didn't say that...…………

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