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Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:36 PM Aug 2020

Hydroxychloroquine can't stop COVID-19. It's time to move on, scientists say

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-no-evidence-treatment

As a frontline doctor working with COVID-19 patients at Columbia University Medical Center in New York City, Neil Schluger had horrific days.

“I would come into the ward in the morning to make rounds and say to the intern, ‘How did we do last night?’ And the intern said, ‘Well, I had 10 COVID admissions, and three of them have already died.’ It was like nothing I’ve experienced in 35 years of being a physician,” Schluger says.

When he first heard about hydroxychloroquine, he hoped it would work for his patients. He and colleagues prescribed the antimalarial drug for 811 of the 1,446 patients hospitalized at the medical center from March 7 to April 8. But the drug didn’t seem to help, Schluger and colleagues reported May 17 in the New England Journal of Medicine.

As a result, “we stopped giving hydroxychloroquine sometime in April,” he says.

And yet the numbers of cases and deaths from COVID-19 in New York City have continued to fall. “If we’d taken away a lifesaving drug, you wouldn’t expect that to happen,” he says. Instead, Schluger, now a pulmonary critical care doctor and clinical epidemiologist at New York Medical College and Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, credits old-fashioned public health measures — mask-wearing, staying home, and social distancing — for New York’s success against the virus.

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Hydroxychloroquine can't stop COVID-19. It's time to move on, scientists say (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
Shouldn't Trump be looking at charges of practicing medicine without a license? The Wielding Truth Aug 2020 #1
In addition to speaking without a brain. Nevilledog Aug 2020 #2
dump invested a bunch of $ in hydroxy! CountAllVotes Aug 2020 #3
That's Not Accurate ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #4
I'm not going to stop taking it every day, 400mg NightWatcher Aug 2020 #5
So you're one of those people the drug was actually intended for! Nevilledog Aug 2020 #6
The funny thing is the name brand is available and cheaper than generic NightWatcher Aug 2020 #8
Even if it has some positive impacts, it's so small they have a hard time telling if it's not just Quixote1818 Aug 2020 #7
the world has moved on except the clown in the white house spanone Aug 2020 #9

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
3. dump invested a bunch of $ in hydroxy!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:15 PM
Aug 2020

He knew it was a giant FAIL and sold a load of it to Brazil.

Sadly, Brazil is not doing well with COVID-19 and having a bunch of hydroxycloroquine to pedal to the public make a stupid idea a toxic outcome!

DUMP TRUMP NOW!!!

This fraud must go NOW!!!!!!!!!



ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
4. That's Not Accurate
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:26 PM
Aug 2020

We need to stop spreading that misinformation.
The family has a small portion of the portfolio in a fund, of which a small part was stock in the company that has a lock on HCQ in the states.
They can't control day to day trading of shares, and it's such a small part of the fund, that even a 100% increase in equity value (and that didn't happen) wouldn't mean more than 0.05% improvement in fund yield.
The HCQ purchased (60 million doses, to go with 20 million in that inventory) was an HHS purchase, within the rules on spending set by Congress.
This puny investment, over which they have zero control, is a huge nothing.
It's misinformation to say he invested money in HCQ.
That money has been invested for years.
PINO and his grifter family are guilty of plenty of things. Let's not make up stuff to point out their horrible actions. Let's just use what they really did.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. I'm not going to stop taking it every day, 400mg
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:29 PM
Aug 2020

but hey, I've got lupus. I've also got a slowed heartbeat and eye issues.

Nevilledog

(51,080 posts)
6. So you're one of those people the drug was actually intended for!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:31 PM
Aug 2020

I hope you're able to get your prescription without delay caused by Nazimodo.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
7. Even if it has some positive impacts, it's so small they have a hard time telling if it's not just
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:34 PM
Aug 2020

noise. Let's be clear, it's not like the drugs that treat AIDS which help the vast majority of people who take it in a very profound noticeable way. These debates are over whether it will save 1 or 2 extra people out of 100 possibly but the right uses the ambiguous data and inflates it to sound like "most" people could be saved and that is 10000000% not the case in any scenario.

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