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yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:16 PM Aug 2020

Be still my heart. Vance subpoenas Trump's financial docs from Deutsche Bank

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/new-york-prosecutors-issue-wide-ranging-subpoena-for-trumps-financial-documents-to-deutsche-bank/

New York prosecutors issue ‘wide-ranging subpoena’ for Trump’s financial documents to Deutsche Bank
Published 5 mins ago on August 5, 2020By Sarah K. Burris

New York prosecutors are showing they’re serious about the look into President Donald Trump’s finances out of concern for fraud.

The New York Times reported Wednesday afternoon that this is part of the year-long legal battle between Trump and the Manhattan district attorney Cy Vance.

A subpoena was previously issued for Trump’s tax returns last year, but Trump fought it all the way to the Supreme Court, where he was told to comply with subpoenas and hand over the documents.

The subpoena was “more wide-ranging than previously known,” said the Times, noting that it requested financial documents dating back to the 1990s.

“In a court filing this week, prosecutors with the district attorney’s office cited ‘public reports of possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization’ and suggested that they were also investigating possible crimes involving bank and insurance fraud,” said the report.


Can you say "October Surprise?" Vance is under no obligation to hold off on an indictment, given that all Trump has done is to delay to try to drag things out until after the election. The Grand Jury is probably ready to go.
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Be still my heart. Vance subpoenas Trump's financial docs from Deutsche Bank (Original Post) yellowcanine Aug 2020 OP
Bwahahaha Nevilledog Aug 2020 #1
Woot! soothsayer Aug 2020 #2
Drop the hammer on that corrupt sack of turds Blue Owl Aug 2020 #3
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #4
But first, stand well back! hatrack Aug 2020 #10
The last sentence just answered my question. I was hoping being state would free them from delaying Frustratedlady Aug 2020 #5
One musclecar6 Aug 2020 #6
Will Deutsche Bank comply? On what timeline? triron Aug 2020 #7
According to Rachel Maddow... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #26
Yes I saw that. triron Aug 2020 #36
K; R CatWoman Aug 2020 #8
knr triron Aug 2020 #9
From the White House to prison malaise Aug 2020 #11
Trump can tweet about going to a 'Big House'. triron Aug 2020 #14
That will be the only way to clean up this mess malaise Aug 2020 #15
The biggest, most wonderful and most fantastic prison that the world has ever seen DenverJared Aug 2020 #27
You mean an incredible prison? malaise Aug 2020 #29
I have no energy to figure this out.. stillcool Aug 2020 #12
Will definitely check in with her this evening. triron Aug 2020 #13
K; R CatWoman Aug 2020 #16
Wait for the right to start squawking that this is a political move at election time Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #17
KNR Lucinda Aug 2020 #18
You know those toilets in jail with the water fountain attached? chriscan64 Aug 2020 #19
Time to get out your DTomlinson Aug 2020 #20
I wonder if the NY AG's announcement tomorrow has anything to do with this? triron Aug 2020 #21
Tomorrow's announcement is by NYC AG, This is state AG nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #32
huh? triron Aug 2020 #38
Sorry I was confused- does Cy Vance report to James? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #39
I don't know. But I was confused by your post cause James is the NY AG. Guess you meant that? triron Aug 2020 #40
Rubles, Euros and Petrodollars oh my! Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #22
You are so right! infullview Aug 2020 #23
Scottish RICO: Mystery Millions for Loser Golf Resorts Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #35
I'm wondering... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #33
Wilbur Ross at Commerce, Cyprus, Deutsche Bank and to the recuse... Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #37
The plot thickens... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #41
dont say be still, eep, be calm my beating heart. im not going to hold my breath, AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #24
under pressure Red Mountain Aug 2020 #25
people on streets denem Aug 2020 #28
Vance could have and should zentrum Aug 2020 #30
Rachel is reporting the subpoena was issued months ago, and the bank has already complied nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #31
Yeah, you bet! SergeStorms Aug 2020 #34

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
5. The last sentence just answered my question. I was hoping being state would free them from delaying
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:26 PM
Aug 2020

I hope Vance has protection. Trump looked like he was out in left field, today. Something was definitely on his mind and I doubt it had anything to do with the country's business/welfare.

You state "The Grand Jury is probably ready to go." So are we, and no probably about it!!!

SergeStorms

(18,891 posts)
26. According to Rachel Maddow...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:28 PM
Aug 2020

they already have. Deutsche Bank has already provided the documents the Manhattan District Attorney requested.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
27. The biggest, most wonderful and most fantastic prison that the world has ever seen
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:32 PM
Aug 2020

No ordinary prison for the dotard.


Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. Wait for the right to start squawking that this is a political move at election time
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:18 PM
Aug 2020

Just say Merrick Garland and be on your merry way.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
19. You know those toilets in jail with the water fountain attached?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:27 PM
Aug 2020

I wonder if Trump will pay to have a golden one.

Kid Berwyn

(14,651 posts)
22. Rubles, Euros and Petrodollars oh my!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 08:32 PM
Aug 2020

Laundromat full of dirty laundry and one short-fingered vulgarian with no clue he’s been spotted by the police helicopter.

Kid Berwyn

(14,651 posts)
35. Scottish RICO: Mystery Millions for Loser Golf Resorts
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:37 PM
Aug 2020
The Biggest Trump Financial Mystery? Where He Came Up With the Cash for His Scottish Resorts.

Donald Trump dumped $400 million into his clubs in Aberdeen and Turnberry. Now, lawmakers in Edinburgh want to investigate him for money laundering.


RUSS CHOMA
Mother Jones, SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER 2020 ISSUE

EXCERPT...

Recently, a new—and perhaps bigger—threat to Trump has emerged in Scotland. Scottish lawmakers are pushing to peer into Trump’s finances using an anti-money-­laundering statute typically employed against kleptocrats, oligarchs, and crime kingpins. Their question: Where did the hundreds of millions Trump poured into his Scottish courses actually come from?

SNIP...

The size of Trump’s wealth is a source of great debate, but two things are fairly well known—the period between 2006 and 2014 included some of his lowest points, financially speaking, and even in the best of times, the amount he splurged in Scotland would be a ton of cash for him to have on hand, let alone spend so freely. And Trump made these Scottish investments amid a $400 million cash spending spree, documented by the Washington Post, in which he also purchased a golf club in Ireland, five courses in the United States, and several pricy homes.

The New Yorker estimated that Trump would have spent half his available cash on the purchase of Turnberry alone, concluding there wasn’t “enough money coming into Trump’s known business to cover the massive outlay he spent” renovating the property.

And the mystery deepens. Martyn McLaughlin, a Glasgow-based reporter for the Scotsman newspaper, discovered that in 2008 Trump approached a Scottish bank asking for a $63 million loan to buy and renovate a historic hotel near Edinburgh, overlooking the final hole of St. Andrews, the most famous golf course in the world. The terms he proposed were so ludicrously favorable to him that bank executives concluded Trump was asking for a “free loan,” and doing business with the developer was “too risky.” Meanwhile, Trump was touting his “very strong” cash position and his representatives were telling the Scottish public that he had more than $1 billion available to spend in their country. (The Trump Organization did not respond to questions from Mother Jones.)

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/08/the-biggest-trump-financial-mystery-where-he-came-up-with-the-cash-for-his-scottish-resorts/



SergeStorms

(18,891 posts)
33. I'm wondering...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:38 PM
Aug 2020

if the reason Deutsche Bank turned over the information to the Manhattan District Attorney is because they no longer hold the debt to those transactions? What if a foreign government, say......the Russians, perhaps, bought that debt from Deutsche Bank? Maybe that would have made the decision easier for them? Just thinking out loud here, sort of.

Kid Berwyn

(14,651 posts)
37. Wilbur Ross at Commerce, Cyprus, Deutsche Bank and to the recuse...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:45 PM
Aug 2020
Trump's commerce secretary oversaw Russia deal while at Bank of Cyprus

Questions raised over Trump appointee Wilbur Ross and his ties to politically connected Russian oligarchs


Stephanie Kirchgaessner
The Guardian, 23 March, 2017

Wilbur Ross, the Trump administration’s new commerce secretary, presided over a deal with a Russian businessman with ties to Vladimir Putin while serving in his previous role as vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus.

SNIP...

Ross was appointed vice-chairman at the bank after his investment in 2014, a post he shared with a deposit holder-turned-shareholder, Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, referred to in Russian media as a former KGB official and Putin ally. According to the bank’s annual reports, the two attended two board meetings together in 2014 and as many as five together in 2015 before Strzhalkovsky’s May 2015 resignation from the board. One of the questions that has been posed to Ross by Democratic senators is whether he ever had contact with Strzhalkovsky.

One of Ross’s first big decisions at the bank was the appointment of former Deutsche Bank chief executive Josef Ackermann as chairman, whom he chose in part because of Ackermann’s “huge Rolodex”, according to a 2014 Bloomberg interview.

Ackermann’s ties to Russia were especially strong, including a warm relationship with Putin and Herman Gref of Sberbank.

Peter Harrell, who served as the deputy assistant secretary for counter-threat finance and sanctions in the State Department at the time and is now an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, said Cyprus was “obviously” one of the places the Obama administration was worried about at the time because it was seen as a place that could help Russian entities evade sanctions, imposed as a result of the conflict over Crimea.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/wilbur-ross-russian-deal-bank-of-cyprus-donald-trump-commerce-secretary

SergeStorms

(18,891 posts)
41. The plot thickens...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 11:58 PM
Aug 2020

and hopefully quickens. There are very few things I wish for more than justice for Donald Trump and his evil progeny.

AllaN01Bear

(17,372 posts)
24. dont say be still, eep, be calm my beating heart. im not going to hold my breath,
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:13 PM
Aug 2020

purple aint a good color on me hope this comes true.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
30. Vance could have and should
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:34 PM
Aug 2020

…..have pursued Jarad and Ivanka years ago for their corrupt real estate deals. No one could understand why Vance didn't move on it.

SergeStorms

(18,891 posts)
34. Yeah, you bet!
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:40 PM
Aug 2020

I'm hoping against hope that the light of day is finally going to shine on Trump's criminal past, present, and future.

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