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Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:27 PM Sep 2012

About Mitt's make-up --

I hate to break it to you, but bad make-up happens. Especially make-up for TV. It is 100% normal in the industry to put on base that is many, many shades darker than the person's skin tone. The studio lights seriously wash out a persons complexion so the darker make-up is added to account for that. Local TV anchors are notorious for this, and even some network guys go too heavy. Keith Olbermann's make-up was VERY heavy, including the darkened skin and heavy shading to thin his face and double chin. Look at just about any anchor/TV head -- look first at their faces, then at their hands or above their wrists. Chris Matthews is someone who wears a buttload of make-up to stop from looking like Caspar onscreen. Whoever did Mitt's make-up (generally done by the stations on staff make-up artists - they are most familiar with the lighting set-up) did a not great job -- perhaps, on purpose.

For those of old enough to remember Al Gore's first debate with Bush, he was a victim of VERY bad make-up, so much so it was all that was talked about the next day.


"Al Gore might beg to differ. In his first debate with George W. Bush, Gore appeared in orange makeup applied thickly to cover a sunburn. He looked awful. Commentators compared him to Lurch from The Addams Family, "Herman Munster doing a bad Ronald Reagan impression," and "a big, orange, waxy, wickless candle." One columnist wrote that "it looked like he melted down orange circus peanuts and then asked Tammy Faye for a 'light' dusting." San Francisco Examiner television critic Tim Goodman landed one of the most quoted blows: "If you'd stuck him in a push-up bra and a sequin dress and had him sing show tunes, he'd have carried San Francisco in a landslide."

The vice president became The Man Who Wears Too Much Makeup. The label has endured as a trope of late-night comedians - "If Al Gore took off half his makeup and gave it to Warren Christopher, they'd both look a lot better," said Jay Leno recently - and as color for political journalists. This isn't just fun at the vice president's expense. Commentators treat Gore's pancake problem as if it has deeper significance. It makes him seem bumbling, unmanly, and, most of all, phony. "While Gore yammered about [the voters'] 'will,' it was clear to my houseplants that the man who looks like he raids Katherine Harris' pancake makeup supply was really gloating about the Florida Supreme Court decision in his favor," opined a disillusioned Gore voter in late November.

http://reason.com/archives/2000/12/11/electoral-beauty-myths

I used to do this for a living. I am the last person to defend Romney, but I believe it really is just a case of bad make-up, and not anything bigoted/untoward.

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About Mitt's make-up -- (Original Post) Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 OP
Then why has it never shown up before? louis-t Sep 2012 #1
I used to know an artist who did make-up for political figures -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #10
the Miami Herald mercuryblues Sep 2012 #17
I would agree with you however, justiceischeap Sep 2012 #2
More incompetance - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #21
If you're calling that a bad make-up then Hutzpa Sep 2012 #3
Uh, actually it IS a bad make-up job -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #23
I do believe you.... renate Sep 2012 #4
The signs of a quality make-up -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #22
Mitt Romney brought his OWN make-up artist to a debate, who charged him four hundred bucks. MADem Sep 2012 #5
It couldn't of happened to a bigger asshole lame54 Sep 2012 #6
Agreed -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #14
If they can make fun of Gore's makeup, we can make fun of Mitt's. pnwmom Sep 2012 #7
I don't want to -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #15
There's no way he did that accidentally, which is what you must be assuming. pnwmom Sep 2012 #28
Apparently he got off his plane with badly applied orange makeup. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #8
If that's true -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #13
Its been mentioned in several threads, with pics too. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #16
He had the make-up on while exiting his plane Hutzpa Sep 2012 #24
It would make no sense for him to exit the plane looking like his usual pale self, pnwmom Sep 2012 #29
Then he has very bad 'luck', bad luck his speech was video taped and leaked, bad luck he can't... Spazito Sep 2012 #9
Yeah but even if you are correct. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #11
Oh yeah - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #20
If this had been any other venue I might tend to agree. LeftofObama Sep 2012 #12
Way too much of a coincidence. Pithlet Sep 2012 #18
So? I think it's great! Taverner Sep 2012 #19
I think you're probably right, but making fun of Rmoney has become an industry of it's own. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #25
Yep. He makes it too easy. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #27
It is still hilarious no matter what. Jennicut Sep 2012 #26
There is not enough makeup in B Calm Sep 2012 #30
The whole need to wear make-up especially for men is ridiculous davidpdx Sep 2012 #31
Hi-Def makes it worse. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #32

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
1. Then why has it never shown up before?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:31 PM
Sep 2012

Have there been other cases of Romney getting a bad makeup job? What, he can't afford a good makeup person? I promise you, he has one on staff.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
10. I used to know an artist who did make-up for political figures --
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012

Women candidates can often have professions that travel with them (depending on what they are running for -- Clinton, Palin, Pelosi had pros working with them.) Men, not so much - they tend to bring in the pros for big events like conventions/debates -- everyone remembers the Nixon disaster and seek not to repeat it. I have seen many events where Romney was appearing with no make-up. His convention appearance looked good -- that was clearly the hand of a seasoned pro who worked on him.

If Romney has his own professional person, there isn't a chance in hell they would have allowed him to walk out onstage like that. A campaign staffer could have done that make-up (I don't think so, it's just not likely) but most likely it was the station staffer. Every TV station/program has a person on staff who does the anchors/guests.

Whoever did Mitt's make-up, they didn't do him any favors, that's for sure.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
17. the Miami Herald
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

has a pic of Romney getting off his private plane with the makeup job. You can see the line on his neck. This was not a station staffer, nor was it due to lighting. All the photos, no matter the angle show the same lines in the same place.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
2. I would agree with you however,
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
Sep 2012

this is just another demonstration of how badly his campaign is being run. He knew that video was out there about looking/being Latino. How does anyone on his campaign allow "bad makeup" to happen in this day and age for a Presidential candidate in deep water over comments made at a private fundraiser? Specifically comments about looking/being Latino?

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
21. More incompetance -
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:03 PM
Sep 2012

his campiagn has been FULL of it. As noted in my OP, Al Gore's campaign let him walk out onstage with one of the WORST make-up jobs I have personally ever seen anywhere. I was shocked, so much so that I actually wondered if it hadn't been done to sabotage him.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
23. Uh, actually it IS a bad make-up job --
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

The fact that we are talking about it is the proof. You can make someone look more "Latin", without us noticing -- THAT is a good make-up job. Rule #One of make-up: If folks are noticing it, you've done a piss poor job.

renate

(13,776 posts)
4. I do believe you....
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

I think the person who does Ed Schultz' makeup should get his neck, for example. It's distracting, how different the colors are. And when Rachel broadcasts from other studios, her makeup is distinctly not as good as it (usually) is on her home set.

And maybe it's a coincidence that the very first time Romney's makeup is brown is for an appearance on a show watched by brown people. Or maybe not. If he didn't have such a reputation for being almost comical in his pandering, I don't think such a fuss would have been made about it.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
22. The signs of a quality make-up --
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

are the neck and hands are also made-up. It drives me CRAZY when I see that they have not been done. Yes, Rachels' make-up gets horrible when she is away from her home studio.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Mitt Romney brought his OWN make-up artist to a debate, who charged him four hundred bucks.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

Why would he be cheap at this juncture in the campaign?

He went overboard with the QT, IMO. He did it to pretend to be more "down with the brown." He's ESTUPIDO, that's what his problem is.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. If they can make fun of Gore's makeup, we can make fun of Mitt's.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:39 PM
Sep 2012

Especially in light of his comments about how he'd be so much better off if he were Latino.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
15. I don't want to --
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sep 2012

assign a motive to Romney that I do not think is correct. Make fun of how crappy he looked (and his DID look crappy) but ascribing ulterior motives seems too much.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
28. There's no way he did that accidentally, which is what you must be assuming.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:13 AM
Sep 2012

The color is not in his normal range. Using that shade must have been deliberate -- he could see as well as we can how dark he was -- so one has to ask why. Why would he deliberately have gone with such an unnatural shade, right before his meeting with an Hispanic group -- and then return to a lighter shade afterwards? There's only one logical answer. He was trying to look darker, just for that meeting.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Apparently he got off his plane with badly applied orange makeup.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

So unless the Univision makeup artist travelled to the planes origin in advance, and was applying makeup on the way to Miami, then the blame it on the TV makeup person theory doesn't make sense.
Think Occams Razor... the simplest scenerio is that Romney decided that darkening his face would garner him more Latino votes, and did a bad job of it by himself or an inexperienced staffer.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
13. If that's true --
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:48 PM
Sep 2012

(I hadn't read that) then that could explain it and he needs to fire his pro (if he used one) and FAST. You NEVER do make-up in advance like that -- you have to work in the conditions you are appearing. Studio make-up rooms are set up with lighting to mimic the stage area.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Its been mentioned in several threads, with pics too.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

And you're still assuming the makeup was intended for studio lighting, in which case you're correct. If the makeup was intended to appeal to Latino voters and media, then having it on when exiting the plane makes sense.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
24. He had the make-up on while exiting his plane
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:31 PM
Sep 2012

that means the intention were there in the first place. If they had done it at the studio I might have to
think twice and come to the conclusion of the OP, but it was done before going to the studio as photos
have shown, not buying what the OP is trying to sell.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
29. It would make no sense for him to exit the plane looking like his usual pale self,
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:18 AM
Sep 2012

meet dignitaries and have his picture taken, and then go the the Univision event and have dark makeup put only solely for that event. It wasn't premature for him to get that makeup done in the plane -- it was the logical time to do it, before the cameras started recording the local events.

Spazito

(50,325 posts)
9. Then he has very bad 'luck', bad luck his speech was video taped and leaked, bad luck he can't...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012

seem to remember that what he says one day and then says the complete opposite the next, bad luck in that he just happened to have a 'bad make-up' application that not only made him look like he wanted to look more like his minority audience but was also applied with such poor skills that the unevenness of application is as apparent as the color.

This is a candidate who will say ANYTHING, do ANYTHING and stands for NOTHING. Questioning this 'tan' is not unfair in this regard, imo.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. Yeah but even if you are correct.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

You have to admit, the timing is just awful. Maybe God is trying to send him a message.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
12. If this had been any other venue I might tend to agree.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:44 PM
Sep 2012

Robme has been on TV thousands of times in the last few years and his makeup looked fine. All of a sudden when he's in front of a latino audience he has a bad makeup job that's too brown? Nope, sorry.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
19. So? I think it's great!
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

The GOP must fail at all costs

No more mister nice guy

Time to go for the jugular, and not stop until the final jerks

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
26. It is still hilarious no matter what.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
Sep 2012

I have no idea if it was done to appeal to Latinos or not. All I know is Mitt looked like he had a terrible spray tan. And it was funny.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
31. The whole need to wear make-up especially for men is ridiculous
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:31 AM
Sep 2012

I suppose if people want to look worse than Ivana Trump or Leona Helmsley, then go for it.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
32. Hi-Def makes it worse.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:04 AM
Sep 2012

Most people look worse in hi-def.

I saw Chris Hayes on Bill Maher's show last Friday.
He looked BETTER in hi-def. He is BEAUTIFUL!

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