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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:34 AM Aug 2020

Emboldened Pelosi Takes a Hard Line

Politico's "concern" is noted.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/06/emboldened-pelosi-takes-a-hard-line/

Emboldened Pelosi Takes a Hard Line
August 6, 2020 at 6:32 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


Politico: “Pelosi is where she likes it best — slugging it out with Republicans on another record-breaking coronavirus relief package. Now, even more than during her first go-round as speaker, Pelosi wields more power than anyone in the Capitol, even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). And with Pelosi in firm control of her caucus and Democrats poised to do well in November, there’s no doubt she’ll vie for the speaker’s gavel another, possibly final, time later this year.”

Said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO): “Just about anyone can lead during a sunny spring day, with the temperature at 75 degrees, but it takes a gifted person to lead during a hurricane, followed by a rock-sized hailstorm. That’s what has happened.”

“But the California Democrat is also taking a huge risk during the coronavirus aid talks as she remains almost entirely unyielding in her demands — even as negotiations drag on and millions of out-of-work Americans lose their federal aid. Both she and Republicans risk overplaying their hands and ending up with a stalemate that leads to retribution from angry voters in November.”
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Emboldened Pelosi Takes a Hard Line (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2020 OP
In Nancy We Trust. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2020 #1
Pelosi or Politico malaise Aug 2020 #2
yes she does WhiteTara Aug 2020 #17
Meadows' involvement tells me that this 'negotiation' is an act. Meadows never blm Aug 2020 #3
It's interesting right now Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #4
"Overplaying their hands" Cosmocat Aug 2020 #5
As I've previously stated, many men are afraid of women. But tRUMP is especially terrified abqtommy Aug 2020 #6
We know the Ds are on the right track as soon as the "this may backfire" stopbush Aug 2020 #7
That's a tell, isn't it? lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #11
+1 crickets Aug 2020 #18
Stay strong madam speaker. Tell the repugs to pound sand just like they tell us. Hotler Aug 2020 #8
You can almost see politico's staff gleefully hoping that Speaker Pelosi will niyad Aug 2020 #9
When I think of the dinguses who wanted someone else as Speaker tishaLA Aug 2020 #10
Politico strikes again! So tell us Politico, how can voters exact "retribution" from BOTH.... George II Aug 2020 #12
She is our biggest asset, fearless and shrewd. She knows where the bodies are buried. ehrnst Aug 2020 #13
It's called resolve -- to do the right thing. ananda Aug 2020 #14
Pelosi holds all the cards, why not play hardball DIVINEprividence Aug 2020 #15
She's shrewd enough to know when Dems holds all the cards, and when Dems don't. ehrnst Aug 2020 #16
I agree. DIVINEprividence Aug 2020 #19
"As negotiations drag on"? Really, Politico? gratuitous Aug 2020 #20
Politico: "Tiger Beat on the Potomac" - Charlie Pierce SaintLouisBlues Aug 2020 #21

NoMoreRepugs

(9,366 posts)
1. In Nancy We Trust.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:44 AM
Aug 2020

When hundreds of bills sit on McTurtles desk for months u can’t play the bothsiderism card.

blm

(113,005 posts)
3. Meadows' involvement tells me that this 'negotiation' is an act. Meadows never
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:50 AM
Aug 2020

really negotiates and never compromises.

Trump wants no bill so he can play his “I am the only one who wants to get money into the hands of unemployed workers” games.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
4. It's interesting right now
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:54 AM
Aug 2020

I think McConnell would give in on everything if he could get the liability shields for businesses and schools. But Nancy knows that the fear of civil repercussions is the biggest driver of some corporations being very cautious about returning to work.

Moscow Mitch must be under some serious pressure to deliver this.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
5. "Overplaying their hands"
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:56 AM
Aug 2020

You can literally never ONCE find a scenario that the media uses this trope when it would apply exclusively to Rs.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
6. As I've previously stated, many men are afraid of women. But tRUMP is especially terrified
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 09:43 AM
Aug 2020

and specifically by Nancy Pelosi. I'm so happy that she's on our team!

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
7. We know the Ds are on the right track as soon as the "this may backfire"
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 09:51 AM
Aug 2020

opinions begin to clutter the media.

Hotler

(11,392 posts)
8. Stay strong madam speaker. Tell the repugs to pound sand just like they tell us.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:41 AM
Aug 2020

Nothing gets released by the congress unless we get everything we want. The days of playing nice should have ended with the impeachment hearings.

niyad

(113,029 posts)
9. You can almost see politico's staff gleefully hoping that Speaker Pelosi will
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:45 AM
Aug 2020

fail. Not a word about the obstructionist pukes.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
10. When I think of the dinguses who wanted someone else as Speaker
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:47 AM
Aug 2020

and all the time Kasie Hunt wasted asking guests whether and how they could support Speaker Pelosi to reclaim the gavel, I'm reminded of the difference between professionals and amateurs.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Politico strikes again! So tell us Politico, how can voters exact "retribution" from BOTH....
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

Pelosi (i.e., Democrats) and republicans in the same election?

No fault of yours (you point out Politico's faux "concern" ) but DU should declare Politico a right wing source. Despite their rating by Media Bias / Fact Check they've clearly moved to the right in the last six months.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. She is our biggest asset, fearless and shrewd. She knows where the bodies are buried.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

She knows what's possible and isn't - as when she told Obama that the ACA was doable, when he didn't. She delivered.

This is one reason why the GOP and many on the far left hate her. She's a woman of "an age" who doesn't apologize for being very good at her job, and she doesn't cower under their male disapproval like they expect women - especially of an age - to do.

Like when she tricked Trump into thinking that she wouldn't use what he told her against him. Like when she negotiates, LISTENS, and works to get consensus rather than using the usual male display of power, which is dominating and subduing everyone in the room to their will. She's accused of being "in bed with the enemy" when she makes the neccessary compromises to get results that would not be possible otherwise.

And she smiles as though all these men who are ranting "HAG" and "POWER HUNGRY OLD BITCH" to let her know she's "unlikeable" aren't really relevant. Much like Greta Thunberg got under their skin of middle aged RW males.

She is the model of effective power wielding that they don't understand and can't intimidate.


 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
15. Pelosi holds all the cards, why not play hardball
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:08 AM
Aug 2020

The GOP will have a difficult time making a stink when they are so divided and torpedoed their own bill. I think many people felt like the first bailout became a grab bag for the rich and a lot of corruption took place. Holding firm to the $600, no lawsuit protections, accountability of future business bailouts, more resources for the states, more small business relief, funding the PO and election protections are all worth playing hardball on because they have broad support. Could it backfire like the shutdown did for the Gingrich GOP vs Clinton? Depends. We have to constantly be framing the issue as defending the unemployed, the victims of the Pandemic, small businesses and medical frontline workers and teachers against Trump’s greedy grifter big bidness interests and rank Trump corruption. So for the time being Pelosi should go full throttle Godfather II unless the political winds shift

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. She's shrewd enough to know when Dems holds all the cards, and when Dems don't.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

Some people seem to assume that we always hold a straight flush, and all should never, ever back down from a call or fold before we lose everything.

They assume an expertise of House politics, but are really armchair quarterbacks.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
19. I agree.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020

Pelosi is liberal, a tough tough negotiator but also a savvy pragmatist. We are lucky to have her

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. "As negotiations drag on"? Really, Politico?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:34 AM
Aug 2020

Now that the Republicans have driven the country off a cliff again, and finally at last became aware of this deadline that's been approaching for two feckin' months, Politico is all concerned about negotiations dragging on. As Sen. Brown of Ohio said yesterday, he doesn't know what the Majority Leader has been doing for the last two months, but he knows that McConnell wasn't legislating.

The Democrats passed their HEROES Bill months ago, and the Republicans haven't done squat-ah. The only thing that's dragging is Republican feet in getting to the bargaining table. Millions of out-of-work Americans lost their federal aid because of Republican indolence, not because Speaker Pelosi is wielding too much power.

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