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Ron Paul will balance the budget "without cutting from...national defense"
Image is from the Miami Herald blog post below. The somments are from the newsletter, which is also linked to in the piece.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20167603034a2970b-pi
Ron Paul's Florida flier, 6-page newsletter blasts GOP "counterfeits," Obama
Ron Paul looks like the only other Republican candidate who's joining Mitt Romney in going after Florida's early voters. So far, about 450,000 absentee ballots have been mailed to Florida Republicans. Romney has hit some of them up twice. But it looks like he's not hitting everyone. This Paul mailer was received by a pattern Republican primary voter from Miami who has so far received mail from no one else.
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It's not clear if it's worth the electoral bang for the buck. But if you have the buck, take a chance on a bang. It probably doesn't hurt. And in Romney's case, he's taking few chances. He and his SuperPac are also bombarding the state airwaves.
Paul's mailer is an apt reflection of the candidate. Like the candidate who's prone to give long answers to questions, the mailer includes six single-spaced pages of detailed explanation that hammer his opponents and play up his strengths. But, in the eyes of his critics, anything that recalls the race-baiting and gay-bashing Ron Paul Political Report newsletters of the 1990s is fair game. Ron Paul disavows the bigoted language.
In the poll mailer, President Obama is criticized for his big spending, Romney for passing a template of ObamaCare and Gingrich for once supporting it (the health mandate, that is). Paul spares Rick Perry, Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum any mention in the letter. The glossy flier that accompanies the newsletter depicts "counterfeits" Romney, Gingrich and Perry but leaves out Huntsman and Santorum. It's a sign that polling indicates Huntsman and Santorum probably can't win Florida right now, though that could (could) change.
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http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/01/my-entry.html#storylink=cpy
Ron Paul looks like the only other Republican candidate who's joining Mitt Romney in going after Florida's early voters. So far, about 450,000 absentee ballots have been mailed to Florida Republicans. Romney has hit some of them up twice. But it looks like he's not hitting everyone. This Paul mailer was received by a pattern Republican primary voter from Miami who has so far received mail from no one else.
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It's not clear if it's worth the electoral bang for the buck. But if you have the buck, take a chance on a bang. It probably doesn't hurt. And in Romney's case, he's taking few chances. He and his SuperPac are also bombarding the state airwaves.
Paul's mailer is an apt reflection of the candidate. Like the candidate who's prone to give long answers to questions, the mailer includes six single-spaced pages of detailed explanation that hammer his opponents and play up his strengths. But, in the eyes of his critics, anything that recalls the race-baiting and gay-bashing Ron Paul Political Report newsletters of the 1990s is fair game. Ron Paul disavows the bigoted language.
In the poll mailer, President Obama is criticized for his big spending, Romney for passing a template of ObamaCare and Gingrich for once supporting it (the health mandate, that is). Paul spares Rick Perry, Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum any mention in the letter. The glossy flier that accompanies the newsletter depicts "counterfeits" Romney, Gingrich and Perry but leaves out Huntsman and Santorum. It's a sign that polling indicates Huntsman and Santorum probably can't win Florida right now, though that could (could) change.
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http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/01/my-entry.html#storylink=cpy
The newsletter is proof that Paul will say anything.
You Know You're A Paulbot When...
by Mets102
You write something along the lines of:
Or you write something like:
While those quotes are purely fictitious, they do represent the ideas espoused by some on the left. We all know that there is an infestation of Paulbots at this site. Denise Oliver Velez had a great, and funny, diary about it last Friday. Unfortunately, it's not just limited to this site and the pseudonymous people here. We also see it from prominent names, such as Glenn Greenwald, which this diary, and several comments therein, documents.
Despite what some people say, when one makes comments along the lines of those written above, that is a defense of, and advocacy for, Ron Paul. Writing 95 words of praise, followed by 5 words of damnation is exactly that. Opening with a few words criticizing him, and closing with a few words criticizing him, but having the middle, and bulk of the comment or piece, being absolutely effusive about Ron Paul is nothing more than a defense of, and advocacy for, Ron Paul. It is easy enough to see through the faint, and insubstantial, words of damnation and get to the heart of the comment.
I know this has been said time and again, both by myself and others, but one should not be praising Ron Paul under any circumstances. He may come to some of the same end goals as us in certain areas of foreign policy, but he comes to them for exactly the wrong reasons. In addition, that ignores how truly horrific he is when it comes to every other issue under the sun. He wants to criminalize abortion. He has no problem with states criminalizing conduct between consenting adults. He has no problem with states criminalizing drugs. And that is just the start of it. As has been repeatedly said, his issue is about states' rights and lessening federal power.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/08/1052760/-You-Know-Youre-A-Paulbot-When
by Mets102
You write something along the lines of:
Ron Paul is great in his opposition to the wars and his desire to cut military spending and his opposition to the military-industrial complex. He was right about Afghanistan. He was right about Iraq. We shouldn't be launching these imperialistic wars just because we can and we feel like it. He's right that it's wrong to do so. He's right that we can't afford to do. And, oh yeah, I know he sucks on everything else.
Or you write something like:
Yeah, Ron Paul wants to pull us out of the UN, but he also wants to get us out of NATO, which has no purpose now that the Cold War is over. He also opposed both Afghanistan and Iraq from the outset and wouldn't have let the British pull us into World War II. If our foreign policy followed his outlook, we, and the world, would be a much better place for it. And, yes, I know, he's really bad about women's rights, civll rights, and pretty much anything else.
While those quotes are purely fictitious, they do represent the ideas espoused by some on the left. We all know that there is an infestation of Paulbots at this site. Denise Oliver Velez had a great, and funny, diary about it last Friday. Unfortunately, it's not just limited to this site and the pseudonymous people here. We also see it from prominent names, such as Glenn Greenwald, which this diary, and several comments therein, documents.
Despite what some people say, when one makes comments along the lines of those written above, that is a defense of, and advocacy for, Ron Paul. Writing 95 words of praise, followed by 5 words of damnation is exactly that. Opening with a few words criticizing him, and closing with a few words criticizing him, but having the middle, and bulk of the comment or piece, being absolutely effusive about Ron Paul is nothing more than a defense of, and advocacy for, Ron Paul. It is easy enough to see through the faint, and insubstantial, words of damnation and get to the heart of the comment.
I know this has been said time and again, both by myself and others, but one should not be praising Ron Paul under any circumstances. He may come to some of the same end goals as us in certain areas of foreign policy, but he comes to them for exactly the wrong reasons. In addition, that ignores how truly horrific he is when it comes to every other issue under the sun. He wants to criminalize abortion. He has no problem with states criminalizing conduct between consenting adults. He has no problem with states criminalizing drugs. And that is just the start of it. As has been repeatedly said, his issue is about states' rights and lessening federal power.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/08/1052760/-You-Know-Youre-A-Paulbot-When
Ron Paul, still loony
Even when the Texas congressman is right on an issue, it's for the wrong reasons
By Gene Lyons
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“I’m fearful,” he said “because some people would like us to go all the way to the U.N. and have the U.N. controlling our lands, too.”
Black helicopters, anyone? Exactly who these “some people” might be, Paul didn’t say. Of course, some people think space aliens monitor their thoughts through fillings in their teeth. Some people even believe that the U.S. government has installed chemical tracking agents in $100 bills.
Oops, actually that was Dr. Paul himself. A 1993 promotional letter for the militia-friendly “Ron Paul Newsletter,” published the last time a Democratic president provoked apocalyptic fears among Moron-Americans, helpfully explained: “The totalitarian bills were tinted pink and blue and brown, and blighted with holograms, diffraction gratings, metal and plastic threads, and chemical alarms. It was a portable inquisition, a paper ‘third degree,’ to allow the feds to keep track of American cash, and American citizens.”
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Even “The Original Famous Ron Paul Survival Kit,” an official World War II U.S. Army ammo holder filled “with highly liquid, small-denomination silver and gold coins for hand-to-hand use,” was supposedly news to Ron Paul.
Sure it was. How could anybody doubt him?
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Anyway, call me old-fashioned, but sanity matters.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/05/ron_paul_still_loony/singleton/
Even when the Texas congressman is right on an issue, it's for the wrong reasons
By Gene Lyons
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“I’m fearful,” he said “because some people would like us to go all the way to the U.N. and have the U.N. controlling our lands, too.”
Black helicopters, anyone? Exactly who these “some people” might be, Paul didn’t say. Of course, some people think space aliens monitor their thoughts through fillings in their teeth. Some people even believe that the U.S. government has installed chemical tracking agents in $100 bills.
Oops, actually that was Dr. Paul himself. A 1993 promotional letter for the militia-friendly “Ron Paul Newsletter,” published the last time a Democratic president provoked apocalyptic fears among Moron-Americans, helpfully explained: “The totalitarian bills were tinted pink and blue and brown, and blighted with holograms, diffraction gratings, metal and plastic threads, and chemical alarms. It was a portable inquisition, a paper ‘third degree,’ to allow the feds to keep track of American cash, and American citizens.”
<...>
Even “The Original Famous Ron Paul Survival Kit,” an official World War II U.S. Army ammo holder filled “with highly liquid, small-denomination silver and gold coins for hand-to-hand use,” was supposedly news to Ron Paul.
Sure it was. How could anybody doubt him?
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Anyway, call me old-fashioned, but sanity matters.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/05/ron_paul_still_loony/singleton/
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