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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:06 PM Aug 2020

US intelligence says Russia is using a range of measures to denigrate Democratic presidential candid


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Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
WASHINGTON (AP) — US intelligence says Russia is using a range of measures to denigrate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Olga Lautman
@olgaNYC1211
Aug 7, 2020
Yes with the help of Ron Johnson, Lindsey Graham, Barr, Giuliani, and a bunch of Putin's operatives in Ukraine

This is an Olga Lautman tweet from May 19:

@olgaNYC1211
Just wanted to give a warning! There is a concerted effort between Putin's KGB mafia thugs in Ukraine, Giuliani, WH, far right, and possibly far left to go after Biden, his son, Obama admin. It has been ramping up the past few weeks and will start spilling over into mainstream



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US intelligence says Russia is using a range of measures to denigrate Democratic presidential candid (Original Post) soothsayer Aug 2020 OP
⭐️K&R⭐️ spanone Aug 2020 #1
KGB went out of existence back in 1991 Kaleva Aug 2020 #2
Thank you. Caliman73 Aug 2020 #8
Exactly. It's shorthand soothsayer Aug 2020 #10
I would suspect a person with inside info would use the correct, current name. Kaleva Aug 2020 #15
It's not a mistake soothsayer Aug 2020 #21
That's exactly what the KGB wants you to think! soothsayer Aug 2020 #11
Sleeping with the (used to be?) enemy. The Traitor's Club. Treason 'R' Us! Newest Reality Aug 2020 #3
Yup SheltieLover Aug 2020 #6
Putin is protecting his puppet Gothmog Aug 2020 #4
One question... What is a KGB mafia thug? Caliman73 Aug 2020 #5
Still shorthand I reckon soothsayer Aug 2020 #12
Mafia and thugs exist today. KGB doesn't and hasn't for almost 30 years. Kaleva Aug 2020 #16
Semantics I think soothsayer Aug 2020 #17
My guess is that the person isn't well informed. Kaleva Aug 2020 #18
She monitors Russia-Ukraine organized crime, soothsayer Aug 2020 #19
I would advise caution in accepting what she says. Kaleva Aug 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2020 #7
Unfortunately, brilliant as she is, there is just too much garbage out there about Hillary. Caliman73 Aug 2020 #9
Anything to keep their puppet in power. dalton99a Aug 2020 #13
Putin is going after Joe Gothmog Aug 2020 #14
Then it's time for Dotard to 'retire' some heads of the intel agencies. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #22

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
2. KGB went out of existence back in 1991
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:11 PM
Aug 2020

It was superseded by the FSK which itself was superseded by the FSB.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
8. Thank you.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:20 PM
Aug 2020

I wasn't going to post but I just had to. The pedant in me I guess.

I imagine that KGB is just the most recognizable "evil secret police" to Americans, especially from the Cold War period. Like the Gestapo from the WWII era.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
15. I would suspect a person with inside info would use the correct, current name.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:48 PM
Aug 2020

"Just wanted to give a warning! There is a concerted effort between Putin's KGB mafia thugs in Ukraine, Giuliani, WH, far right, and possibly far left to go after Biden, his son, Obama admin."

A person not in the loop would make a mistake of using the name "KGB".

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
5. One question... What is a KGB mafia thug?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:16 PM
Aug 2020

I totally get and totally accept that Putin is trying to interfere in the election again. Why not? It has worked out for him so far.

Call me a pedant, but when we use obsolete words and string them together in ways that make little sense, we do not help the argument.

The "secret police" agency in Russia that was one of the successor agencies of the KGB is the FSB.

The Russian mafia is real, active, and pretty powerful. Likely sanctioned at least to a certain degree, but the State. However, you don't mix up the names and call out the wrong names.

"Putin, his FSB, and Russian mafia are very likely coordinating efforts to attack Joe Biden ahead of the 2020 elections. Beware!"

Okay, flame away!

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
12. Still shorthand I reckon
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 05:00 PM
Aug 2020

People know what kinds of thing the mafia does.
People know what the KGB is.
People know what thugs do.

Like this, in Minsk. KGB is just easy to grasp.


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Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
18. My guess is that the person isn't well informed.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

And wouldn't know what the Federal Security Service is.

Would be similar to calling the CIA OSS

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
19. She monitors Russia-Ukraine organized crime,
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:01 PM
Aug 2020

Is a Newsweek contributor, and was a researcher for “House of Trump, House of Putin”

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
20. I would advise caution in accepting what she says.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:19 PM
Aug 2020

Unless she has given an explanation as to why she uses the term "KGB".

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
9. Unfortunately, brilliant as she is, there is just too much garbage out there about Hillary.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

She is the victim of misogyny and a 30 plus year smear job from Right Wingers.

She should be President right now, and none of what is happening would be happening.

We have a highly sexist society and the influence of rich Right Wingers is still powerful.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
22. Then it's time for Dotard to 'retire' some heads of the intel agencies.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

Then it's time for Dotard to 'retire' some heads of the intel agencies.

With the excuse that they need to spend more time with their families.

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