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OUTRAGEOUS new scheme to suppress vote by mail (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 OP
Should be free for all. Doodley Aug 2020 #1
Full Banana Republic move BSdetect Aug 2020 #2
Outrageous is right. NT enough Aug 2020 #3
Sounds like a poll tax. yonder Aug 2020 #4
You called it! Native Aug 2020 #8
Doesn't the post office have to go thru . . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #5
the ones they just fired? LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #12
Louis DeJoy is a traitor and saboteur. dalton99a Aug 2020 #6
OP is missing some important info Kaleva Aug 2020 #7
thanks-- but clearly they are trying hard to mess with things LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #11
This is a done deal. Donny Bodybags had a Saturday Night Massacre at the post office, and now Squinch Aug 2020 #9
I just saw that-- also outrageous!!! FUCK!!! LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #10
Yeah what about us in all vote by mail states? flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #13
I imagine there is somewhere you can drop it off in person. Do that. Squinch Aug 2020 #19
This is the fee the states and counties pay to SEND ballots to voters csziggy Aug 2020 #21
Plenty of time for states to react. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #14
Of course Ballots would be first class? pwb Aug 2020 #15
I don't either. Even First Class mail is eligible for discounts if pre-sorted. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #16
There was an article earlier this week 2naSalit Aug 2020 #17
Yes. That is why mail pre-sorted by the customer gets a discount. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #18
Interesting-- thanks LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #20

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
7. OP is missing some important info
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:40 AM
Aug 2020

The rate increase has to be approved first by the Postal Regulatory Commission which hasn't done so and even if the Commission approves the rate increase, there will certainly be litigation.

Squinch

(50,948 posts)
9. This is a done deal. Donny Bodybags had a Saturday Night Massacre at the post office, and now
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:45 AM
Aug 2020

his toadies are running things.

This is not fixable until Joe gets elected. We will not be able to make this right by the election. This is GOING to be used to cheat, and cheat big. It doesn't even matter if Congress pours money into the PO. The Trump-appointed criminals who are now running the PO will not allow Democratic votes to get to their destination.

The remedy is to vote in-person.

Prepare now. Get your hands on a face shield and an N95 mask. Vote early. But put that ballot into the machine with your own hands.

We take risks every time we go out. This is at least as worth the risk as going to the grocery store.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
13. Yeah what about us in all vote by mail states?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

there's drop boxes I suppose. Although trump is suing PA to suppress that too.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. This is the fee the states and counties pay to SEND ballots to voters
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:29 PM
Aug 2020

So every ballot mailed out will cost our local governments much more than previously.

Ballots should be under the same category as the mailings sent out by Congress members. They get free postage, even though voters have to pay to send stuff to them.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
16. I don't either. Even First Class mail is eligible for discounts if pre-sorted.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:51 PM
Aug 2020

And pre-sorting is very easy with today's computer software.

2naSalit

(86,534 posts)
17. There was an article earlier this week
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:53 PM
Aug 2020

with reports that the auto sorting machines are being shut down and hand sorting is being done to purposely waste time.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
18. Yes. That is why mail pre-sorted by the customer gets a discount.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:02 PM
Aug 2020

The Postal clerks don't have to sort it. The mail is submitted to the Post Office in trays or bundles directed to specific mail routes.. That way they don't have to sort piece by piece. Pre-sorted mail will get faster service and the mailer gets a discount.

This is contingent upon the customer having a permit, the mail being spot checked for accuracy, and a minimum volume requirement. Should not be a problem with such a massive project.

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