WH aide just told NBC that Trump's 3:30 presser will show him signing EO on covid economic relief

[highplainsdem]

Link to tweet

[Faux pas]

1. This

is what I posted the other day:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213863121

[soothsayer]

2. Is he writing it on the back of the Constitution?

[CrispyQ]

3. So now he can direct the treasury without congressional approval?

We know that's what he wants. "Our stockpile." Our treasury. Who stops Mnuchin from processing checks if they decide to tell We the People to fuck the fuck off? Who's stopped them so far? I am beyond alarmed. I feel as though the entire country has settled into "wait until November" mode & then even we'll just hope for the best. Nobody has a Plan A, much less a Plan B.

[Mike 03]

8. Agree.

We had three weeks' notice this was coming. Hopefully our best and brightest leaders have consulted with the most creative and knowledgeable legal minds at their disposal (about this and the USPS situation too). Beyond that, I can't console myself and feel that we are really at the breaking point we've feared and theorized about for a couple of years now.

[captain queeg]

27. Pretty sure that's not legal. But that's never stopped him before

Congress can’t just release their duties to the executive branch. We are on a slippery slope.

[Bettie]

32. We don't actually know that Mnuchin hasn't

already written checks from the treasury to that orange thing and all of his toadys.

We don't know anything that they are doing and I wonder if we ever will.

I feel like we're in a driverless car and will go over the cliff before November.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. All funds

usage starts in the House. Just more Bullshit from Barr and Trump.

[forthemiddle]

5. And in doing so, he is daring Pelosi to take him to court

He knows this is a win, win.
If he extends unemployment benefits, or somehow another $1,200.00 to citizens, he will be daring the Democrats to halt it in court.

He can then say he tried, but those Democrats really don’t want to help, they just want a political point.

[highplainsdem]

6. Exactly.

[Kahuna]

7. DING DING DING DING DING! Who's going to stop him?...

Republicans won't they're in on it. If Dems do it they'll be framed as stopping critical aid for people in dire need.

[agingdem]

11. Well the Dems should "OJ" frame it...

he killed two people but he was determined to do everything in his power to find the person who did this and bring him to justice.....so the Dems need to portray Trump as OJ.. Trump is personally responsible for the deaths of 160,000 innocent people and the economy collapsing, and now he's going to "fix" the decimation he caused...ok

[Takket]

30. oh... i'm sure all the tea party deficit hawks will be all over him!!!

to be clear, there is no such thing as a deficit hawk. the tea party only cares that if we are going to drive up the deficit we do it by diverting trillions to the richest people on earth and no one else.

[Vinca]

13. Democrats should ignore it and carry on. It's likely one of the Republicans who are so afraid

someone might get a dime too much in "welfare" will take it to court. When that happens, Democrats can weigh in with a "we told you so."

[Volaris]

18. The riposte should be that nancy just says...

'Great. The Pres just said you can have 1200$. Next week, he will sign an EO that says you can have a unicorn, and it wont be any less fake than the 1200 bucks that he legally cant give you.'

[qazplm135]

21. no it's not

come on, I get that people are disillusioned that people voted for this guy, I am too, but he's not a super genius.

1. A majority of Americans are not going to believe that the Dems that have been pushing aid for months all of a sudden are against it because they oppose Trump violating the Constitution.

2. Aid requires a lot more than just a single 1200 check. That isn't going to solve the unemployment issue, and it isn't going to put people back to work. It's not like people are going to think problem solved.

3. The payroll tax cut won't likely result in additional money to people because it's only a deferment, businesses are still on the hook and they ain't going to implement it if they just have to pay it back in 6 months or so. And there's the threat to SS if it somehow does go through.

Y'all need to quit viewing Trump as some sort of evil political genius.

[durablend]

29. You're WAY too optimistic about the American populace

More than enough of them will believe TRUMP DO GOOD, DEMS BAD BAD BAD

[qazplm135]

33. then why are we bothering at all if you think that?

it's over, pack it up boys, Durrr the American people are morons.

FFS.

[tritsofme]

9. I don't see how there is enough available funding to sustain expanded UI for more than a week

Let alone through the end of the year. Seems hard to make the math work here.

[Iliyah]

10. There is a reason why the . .

constitution created three branches of government. It against the constitution to even attempt this which sincerely I think it's his bully bluff. The treasury department making more money? Talk about putting the USA in total depression, this will do it.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. With What Money?

Congress decides on spending.
The EO is a political stunt, because there's no money to fund anything promised.
A payroll tax will be slapped by a injunction in a hummingbird's heartbeat.
It's toothless nonsense.

[nancy1942]

16. True, but....

Who the hell is going to stop him???
I don't see anyone doing it.
Of course it's a stunt, but watch the ignorant dimwits fall for it as usual.
Democrats-bad.
Trump-good.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. If There's No $, There's No $

And, the courts have repeatedly stopped overreach.
So, the payroll tax can be halted, or Congress appropriates money to refund SS & Medicare.
The debt still ends up at his feet.
If he orders stimulus checks & business grants, the money will never be sent.
The executive branch can't spend $ they don't have.
Yes, 30% of the population will brag about this "bold" move, but it will be easy to get 90% of the other 70% to understand that none of it can actually happen.
Just another empty promise.

[bluestarone]

22. We could ALL be cashing BAD CHECKS

If they proceed with this shit!! Wait and see who gets what AGAIN!!

[ProfessorGAC]

26. I Bet Wall Street Would Love That!!!

Tens of million of bad checks being triple handled due to a fraud perpetrated by the Federal government.
The bankers would be giddy with delight!

[Nancy Waterman]

14. He purposefully sabotaged the talks

So he could ride in to the rescue and help his poll numbers. Create a crisis, scare everyone, and then ride in on his fake white horse to the rescue. We have seen this show before.

[Srkdqltr]

15. Yes exactly.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Spot On!

I agree completely.
And, the EO is a political stunt, because Congress hasn't appropriated funds.
He's just making up whatever he signs.

[cayugafalls]

20. +1000

exactly.

[agingdem]

24. and his ridiculous Executive Orders

are like the NDAs he makes all his victims sign...glitzy but meaningless..

[dalton99a]

35. +1

[leftyladyfrommo]

23. Most of his Executive Orders don't really mean a thing.

They are just PR stunts that last a day and are forgotten .

[Kahuna]

28. People will notice if they don't receive the financial benefits he will promise. nt

[roamer65]

25. Here comes a massive currency crisis.

[Bayard]

31. One of the MSNBC experts said a bit ago

That he may be trying to take money that has already been allocated elsewhere--like he did with his wall.

And there will be a bunch of lawsuits, while he says--See? I tried to help you but the Dems won't let me.

[Initech]

34. I mean it's one rent, what could it cost? $1200?

[tinrobot]

36. 95% of his promises are hollow. This will not be any different.

He'll sign it, then "forget" to implement it.