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SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:12 PM Aug 2020

Republicans are screwed with this virus

all of their familiar attack and defense angles fall flat

1. This is Obama's fault!/We're handling it better than Obama/Biden:

Answer: uh, no it is not. your team demonstrably blew off any serious attention to Obama transition team in the matter, discarded their pandemic playbook, got rid of key pandemic response teams in WH and in China. fuck you, you're wrong

Moreover, care to compare virus responses now? Total of 12k dead due to H1N1 swine flu in US PALES in comparison to the out of control death count for COVID and we don't know how many more there will be before this virus is behind us.

2. This is a China virus. It's China's fault!

Answer: Hey dipshits! who told you to trust the Chinese government. We had epidemiologists there in China specifically to be early warning on any novel virus outbreaks.

Secondly--ok, we concede China should have been more forthcoming, but look at what other advanced countries did to fight this virus vs. what this government did. it is ridiculous that we have 150,000 dead and probably more than that due to this virus which COULD have been stopped in its tracks in April.

So this is due to bad governance and politicizing things like mask wearing and lockdowns.


Any others you can mention?

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mucifer

(23,525 posts)
1. If trump gets away with $1600/month looking like a personal check from their favorite
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:18 PM
Aug 2020

dictator, that's all they need to keep loving him.

They just want a good story with trump as their hero.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
3. the previous stimulus had his name on it and his numbers are down
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:25 PM
Aug 2020

so apparently that didn't work.

he has no way to unilaterally take action which will get people further stimulus. so he is fucked.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
2. I'm partial to the bleach, lysol, and UV light cures
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

and I do like the latest rendition of pro-active policy...it will just go away, the way things just do.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
5. yep. bottom line is tgis is the albatross around their neck
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:27 PM
Aug 2020

and the more they ignore science and talk bleach and hydroxyhoaxaquine the more stupid and ineffectual GOP looks.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. Which virus, covid or trump?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:27 PM
Aug 2020

He lets them talk, then undermines them. He.'s done this before, and watch when they get an agreement he'll refuse to sign it until he gets something benefitting him.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
6. yep--that is another dimension of how screwed they are
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:29 PM
Aug 2020

they dare not openly revolt, but the more idiotic things they go along with or excuse, the less tenable of an option they are in the minds of voters.

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
7. We need to keep hammering home how Trump created this mess
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.facebook.com/david.furnish/posts/10221822441167061

For those complaining about Trump being blamed for the coronavirus/COVID-19 pandemic numbers in America: a little history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it’s important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it’s time to vote. Forgive the length, but it’s really important to understand all the facts.

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.

Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we detected our first case in the U.S.A. A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the U.S.A. because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.

Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you’ve never seen how Ebola kills, it’s horrific).

It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores.

Now the story of COVID-19 and Trump’s response that we know about thus far:

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.

When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China’s problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn’t done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests “better” if we needed them. However, he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump’s FDA.

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a “liberal hoax” conjured up to try to make him “look bad after impeachment failed.”

The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases “and pretty soon that number will be close to zero.” All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.

What Trump did was to stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

As of the moment, we have 5 MILLION COVID-19 CONFIRMED CASES and 162,000 COVID-19 DEATHS in the U.S.A. The actual number is undoubtedly higher given ongoing limited availability of testing.

If you are as outraged as I am by all of this, the most important thing my friends in America can do is get out and vote in November.
 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
8. EXACTLY! if a person wants to be a single issue voter--this is the issue. survival is at stake
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:39 PM
Aug 2020

just like Katrina response and Bush team lies juxtaposed against actual news footage of reality on the ground in New Orleans, so too this COVID anti-science and anti government response from the right is giving lie to their claims about global warming being a hoax.

it is critical we kill not just the virus but also the Trumpist anti intellectual primal screams which do nothing to help America solve our problems.

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