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"...they really love him for that" - Fran Lebowitz (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
Seconding The Motion, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2020 #1
+100000 Nevilledog Aug 2020 #2
Priceless! 70sEraVet Aug 2020 #3
Not Sure, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #6
"Of Sparrows and Curtain Rods" 10/10/2009 Glorfindel Aug 2020 #16
Thank You, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #17
Happy to be of service, Your Reverence... Glorfindel Aug 2020 #18
This! Much obliged for your diligence. n/t MFGsunny Aug 2020 #23
Thank you... Mazeltov Cocktail Aug 2020 #29
They love their hatred more than they love their own lives. I'd add.. hvn_nbr_2 Aug 2020 #4
or anyone's lives... Last I checked, we're all in the same biosphere. He.Just.Doesn't.Care.Period. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #5
I think that's EXACTLY it. calimary Aug 2020 #7
They're a bunch of Commie Kazis Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #8
K&R!! 2naSalit Aug 2020 #9
Yeah, who knew that Jay Gould was being charitable... Salviati Aug 2020 #10
Like President Lyndon B. Johnson (LBJ) was said to have observed to a staffer (Bill Moyers). Blue_true Aug 2020 #13
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #11
Some want Trump to spend time in prison for this. lambchopp59 Aug 2020 #12
Hope vs. hate (William Faulkner) DemoTex Aug 2020 #14
People LOVE to Hate. sure why not Aug 2020 #15
it's only capable by people who literally think they are BETTER than others Skittles Aug 2020 #19
From a Guardian article on 3/20/18 nilram Aug 2020 #20
She's my favorite person in the world, I adore her. betsuni Aug 2020 #21
But, but Scarsdale Aug 2020 #22
Nailed it! nt Heartstrings Aug 2020 #24
WOW secondwind Aug 2020 #25
Kick....n/t Upthevibe Aug 2020 #26
So much of the "Love of Trump" is really just "Hatred of Liberals" Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2020 #27
Truly. This has been so shocking to me. LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #28
"Truer words were never spoken." ... Ligyron's Mom Ligyron Aug 2020 #30

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
1. Seconding The Motion, Ma'am
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:09 PM
Aug 2020



“The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn’t even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it.”



The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
6. Not Sure, Sir
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:54 PM
Aug 2020

I have seen it floating about for several years. I have seen 'balloon juice' associated with it, but do not know if that is a moniker or a site.

It's cold true, though, and whoever wrote it first is a genius.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
4. They love their hatred more than they love their own lives. I'd add..
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

I'd add: They love their hatred more than they love their own families' lives.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
7. I think that's EXACTLY it.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:58 PM
Aug 2020

He made it okay to be "out 'n' proud" as a racist, a sexist, a bigot, and more. He made it safe for them to come out of the closet. OF COURSE they're gonna love him for it. He liberated them to embrace their lower (or lowest) selves - and to be proud of it.

They had to keep that stuff buried. Stifled. It was their dirty little secret that was finally allowed to come out into the sunshine and fresh air.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
10. Yeah, who knew that Jay Gould was being charitable...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 08:50 PM
Aug 2020

You don't even need to pay the half of the poor you hire to kill the other half, they'll gladly do it for free.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Like President Lyndon B. Johnson (LBJ) was said to have observed to a staffer (Bill Moyers).
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 09:00 PM
Aug 2020

“If you can convince the lowest White man that he is better that the best Colored Man (what African Americans were called in that time), he won’t care that you are picking his pockets, hell, he will empty his pockets for you”

Hate is a powerful drug. If you can tap into people’s hatreds, you can get them to follow you anywhere, even to Hell.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
12. Some want Trump to spend time in prison for this.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

But he's a very sick man who needs treatment in the sort of asylum that were common when his backward philosophies flourished. So, straight jacket padded cell for Trumpy, and two electroshock treatments daily for at least five years would be adequate?

DemoTex

(25,392 posts)
14. Hope vs. hate (William Faulkner)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 09:04 PM
Aug 2020

“When you have plenty of good strong hating you don't need hope because the hating will be enough to nourish you."

William Faulkner - 'Absalom, Absalom!'

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
19. it's only capable by people who literally think they are BETTER than others
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 02:18 AM
Aug 2020

fucking arrogant, racist pieces of SHIT

nilram

(2,886 posts)
20. From a Guardian article on 3/20/18
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:18 AM
Aug 2020

And it still applies today.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/mar/20/fran-lebowitz-you-do-not-know-anyone-as-stupid-as-donald-trump

Discussed on DU --

https://democraticunderground.com/100210383862

Lebowitz has some great observations and insights, and expresses them so precisely. I vaguely recall having a hard time getting through one of her novels (and failing), but I still love her.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
22. But, but
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 05:30 AM
Aug 2020

Have you folks not read the insightful platitudes written by the worldly Ivanka Trump? She can ramble on about various subjects such as advice to working women, what to do when you lose your job (get another one! Duh!) Not to mention that she is intelligent enough to be a senior advisor to the Goon in Chief.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
27. So much of the "Love of Trump" is really just "Hatred of Liberals"
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:14 PM
Aug 2020

A "liberal" being defined as someone that doesn't meet the white, conservative definition of conformity.

We are seeing a perfect demographic storm play out:

- Baby Boomer America is rapidly losing relevance after being the driving political and consumer force for 50 years.
- White America is on the verge of going from "majority" to "plurality" and is fighting that at all costs.
- 50 years ago, someone with a high school education could get a job to raise a family. 35 years ago, one person couldn't do it, but a couple could. Now, even two people with high school educations frequently struggle.
- A bloated billionaire class is sucking the oxygen out of the economy.

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
30. "Truer words were never spoken." ... Ligyron's Mom
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 06:50 PM
Aug 2020

and I'd say: "That covers about 90% of it Mom".

This is totally off topic but I was reading DU and listening to NPR as I waited in the cell phone lot for a friend to arrive, a bit late as it turned out, which is rare as most flights are early from my experience. Anyway, I'm glad he was late because a woman on NPR was describing the rather unusual experience of falling in love with another woman after being in straight relationships all her life and now married for 10 years. She spoke of this instant crush that overcame her when she first spied the object of her desire, which she described as, "a woman in a business suit with a handsome, masculine appearance."

I was trying to picture what such a person might look like, I swear I was, when Fran's image popped into view as I clicked on this intriguing Post.

It was spooky.

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