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I can't help but feel that Mitt Romney has been set up. (Original Post) tk2kewl Sep 2012 OP
Here ya go ...pick one... L0oniX Sep 2012 #1
I mean I would love to hear him talk about current events tk2kewl Sep 2012 #3
inspiring Whisp Sep 2012 #38
Did he get to comment on Obama? Sebass1271 Sep 2012 #36
By whom and for what reason? MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #2
I was thinking more about the power of the money behind the scenes tk2kewl Sep 2012 #4
Yeah, but who's money? MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #12
I believe John McCain was set up. grasswire Sep 2012 #5
This is extremely plausible. Jeb's biding his time. greyseal Sep 2012 #25
You could be right Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #26
I'm thinking Jeb's son George P. Bush. EmeraldCityGrl Sep 2012 #37
Are we talking cosmic here....... left on green only Sep 2012 #6
Maybe he's a "sacrificial lamb"? HoneychildMooseMoss Sep 2012 #7
I just get the feeling it's bigger tk2kewl Sep 2012 #14
How about this.... pkdu Sep 2012 #8
Are you saying that is evidence of a set up? tk2kewl Sep 2012 #10
My "quote" was satirical ...but pkdu Sep 2012 #15
He stood a chance RobertEarl Sep 2012 #9
I hope your right and I'm just over thinking it tk2kewl Sep 2012 #11
I think they tried to go with a centrist former-republican Sep 2012 #13
Fog of Class Warfare ode2joi Sep 2012 #22
can I sign up for your news letter former-republican Sep 2012 #28
Willard is a robot from the future sent to insure nobody votes GOP ever again. Major Nikon Sep 2012 #16
I think Mitt is a practical joke Massachusetts played on the Republican party. reformist2 Sep 2012 #17
Set up by whom? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #18
See I don't think he is a moderate former-republican Sep 2012 #19
I can't decide if he's a hard-line corporatist or if this a religious delusion (or both) greyseal Sep 2012 #27
Ann Romney ProSense Sep 2012 #20
I don't want to sound nuts either, fadedrose Sep 2012 #21
I don't think so, he initially intrigued me justice1 Sep 2012 #23
that makes no sense JI7 Sep 2012 #24
He's not a victim SunsetDreams Sep 2012 #29
No major party would nominate a candidate to deliberately lose. longship Sep 2012 #30
Romney was their best shot this year KurtNYC Sep 2012 #40
I don't think anybody sane on the Republican side thought he would unseat Obama. Selatius Sep 2012 #31
Jeb is seating back watching Sebass1271 Sep 2012 #34
Just because this is possibly the worst run Presidential campaign Incitatus Sep 2012 #32
Remember the remarks about historical outcomes & the economy aletier_v Sep 2012 #33
There was a thread earlier about the effects of social media on elections. Incitatus Sep 2012 #35
It began long, long ago ... GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #39
He probably would not take advice from Karl Rove, so they will let him row mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #41
It's pretty bad when billionaires are playing millionaires. rug Sep 2012 #42
I don't think so... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #43
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
3. I mean I would love to hear him talk about current events
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

Like Mitt is being set up as the scapegoat and everyone else is going to get off scot-free.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
2. By whom and for what reason?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

By KKKarl Rove, so that he can create a distraction from his evil plan to Republicanize all the fascists in Congress?

That's what I be thinking, if I had a feeling at all about this, the worst fucked up party that's ever degenerated.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
12. Yeah, but who's money?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:36 PM
Sep 2012

Criminals that operate from Wall Street?

Three things in life keep coming up as the 3 worst... The obsession with -

1) Money
2) Sex
3) Power

So, once you know which one of these things are the driving force behind RMoney, then you've got to wonder which corrupt institution is behind it-

The World Bank?
Religious Hegemony?
Military?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. I believe John McCain was set up.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:30 PM
Sep 2012

And if John McCain and Mitt were both set up, I can only surmise that the Bushes are behind it. Using failing GOP candidates as place holders during two terms so people will forget about W and be ready to accept Jeb.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
37. I'm thinking Jeb's son George P. Bush.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:00 AM
Sep 2012

He's Latino and they will use that to capture the
Latino vote. He's been groomed since he was 12 yrs. old
And spoke at the Repub convention on behalf of his
Grandfather.

7. Maybe he's a "sacrificial lamb"?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:30 PM
Sep 2012

The Republicans probably knew they wouldn't be able to win this year, with all of those third-tier candidates they had in the primaries, so maybe they're just going to fall on their swords this time around, and field a candidate next time who will seem sane by comparison?

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
8. How about this....
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:32 PM
Sep 2012

" no one , and I mean fucking no one , has ever wanted the Presidency so bad , and been willing to say anything , and I mean fucking ANYTHING , to any audience and still not have anything close to the wholehearted support of his/her Party establishment"

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
15. My "quote" was satirical ...but
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:47 PM
Sep 2012

Party based in truth.

I firmly believe ;
1. GOP looked at all the "clown car" occupants and said " is that the best we can do" ?
2. Begged others to join the race who said NFW this time round ( Christie , Jeb etc)
3. Then said fuck it.....he's the best hope we have but chances are he loses.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. He stood a chance
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:33 PM
Sep 2012

And then he started talking.

He is the best the republicans could find. Which tells you a lot about that party.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
13. I think they tried to go with a centrist
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:40 PM
Sep 2012

but they ended up with Romney.

I don't think you will ever see a hard right wing President ever win another election. They didn't know all this shit was going to come out.

The country is changing for the better.

ode2joi

(26 posts)
22. Fog of Class Warfare
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:08 AM
Sep 2012

Akin and now Romney both committed the unpardonable sin(s) of telling the truth. They were able to get low/middle income whites to vote against their own best interests..they are beginning to wake up to the fact that they are the "New Negroes"....when the fog completely lifts they will not be happy!

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
17. I think Mitt is a practical joke Massachusetts played on the Republican party.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:56 PM
Sep 2012

If they hadn't let him be a figurehead governor for one term, none of this would have ever happened.
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
18. Set up by whom?
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:58 PM
Sep 2012

The only thing I can see coming out of a Romney defeat is the GOP base going "see this is what we get for nominating a moderate" and going the full Palin in 2016. (And if not Palin someone equally extreme-right.) Which may just end up finishing them as a party, because a sizeable percentage of the GOP base is too stupid to realise that no, the problem isn't that your national candidates are too moderate, the problem is that candidates who are moderate enough to win a national election are forced to embrace extremist right-wing policies to placate the base and end up alienating enough voters to cost them the election.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
19. See I don't think he is a moderate
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:03 AM
Sep 2012

We are finding more and more out about him.

The reason he won the primary is because many republicans are moderate.
The only people that really like him now are the hard right wingers.

The rest of the GOP have no choice but to go along now.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
21. I don't want to sound nuts either,
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:06 AM
Sep 2012

but George Carlin might be just the one to tell us, that is, if you believe in ghosts, karma, heavenly intervention and supernatural stuff.

What do ya say, George? Are we nuts?

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
29. He's not a victim
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:23 AM
Sep 2012

If he has been set up, it is of his own doing.

The GOP didn't set out to set him up, no one did. They made the mistake of thinking they could just lie about President Obama's record, obstruct him and the economy at every turn, and get away with it.

The GOP and Romney have been hoisted by their own petard.

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. No major party would nominate a candidate to deliberately lose.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:28 AM
Sep 2012

Got it?

And Rove is not an omnipotent, omniscient god.


KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
40. Romney was their best shot this year
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:04 PM
Sep 2012

He had the money to outlast the others and he brought the whole LDS machine with him.

Ryan is worse, Santorum would be worse off at this stage, Gingrinch was damaged goods, Rick Perry seems too much like Bush, same for Jeb -- BTDT.

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
31. I don't think anybody sane on the Republican side thought he would unseat Obama.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:30 AM
Sep 2012

He was a sacrificial lamb. They're waiting for the 2016 race.

2016 is when the whole thing is wide open.

I worry that they'll run Jeb Bush, not because he's moderate (because he's not) but because he might fool enough people into victory.

 

Sebass1271

(2,332 posts)
34. Jeb is seating back watching
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:50 AM
Sep 2012

Everything unfold he will return with Rubio and bingo! Finish with the supreme court.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
32. Just because this is possibly the worst run Presidential campaign
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:37 AM
Sep 2012

ever, doesn't mean it was by design. I think the Obama campaign has done a great job, maybe more than meets the eye in dominating this election.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
33. Remember the remarks about historical outcomes & the economy
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:43 AM
Sep 2012

Republicans figured it was in the bag

and all they had to do was add $$$$$$$

to definitely tip it.



they just plain underestimated people

and overestimated their historical facts & $$$$

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
35. There was a thread earlier about the effects of social media on elections.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:07 AM
Sep 2012

Thanks to the Internet and Al Gore's role in helping to CREATE (NOT INVENT it as the RW lie goes) through legislation that opened it to universities, libraries, business and private use, the people are able to better communicate and disseminate information. The MSM is often forced to cover stories just because of the peoples' use of social media.

I was pissed and very concerned about Citizens United and I still think it needs to go, but it seems the resources the people have are able to counter the bullshit special interests can promote with their millions/billions? in propaganda.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
41. He probably would not take advice from Karl Rove, so they will let him row
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)

waaaaaaaaay out in the ocean and took his paddle.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
43. I don't think so...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:29 PM
Sep 2012

The Koch Brothers (et. al.) have spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars on this election cycle. I don't think they would do that just to set up Mitt Romney.

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