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Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:32 PM

so basically rachel is doing her best

to convince everybody that we have sunk to the level of belarus or north korea and that Trump will be reelected.. A bit hyperbolic.

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Reply so basically rachel is doing her best (Original post)
drray23 Aug 2020 OP
elleng Aug 2020 #1
teach1st Aug 2020 #2
drray23 Aug 2020 #6
teach1st Aug 2020 #13
drray23 Aug 2020 #15
still_one Aug 2020 #3
triron Aug 2020 #27
still_one Aug 2020 #28
enough Aug 2020 #4
still_one Aug 2020 #9
steve2470 Aug 2020 #10
BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #5
SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #7
Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #22
SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #24
Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #26
steve2470 Aug 2020 #8
still_one Aug 2020 #11
wiggs Aug 2020 #17
kacekwl Aug 2020 #12
drray23 Aug 2020 #14
rockfordfile Aug 2020 #29
Wanderlust988 Aug 2020 #16
mfcorey1 Aug 2020 #30
Ilsa Aug 2020 #18
drray23 Aug 2020 #19
Silent3 Aug 2020 #20
tman Aug 2020 #21
ecstatic Aug 2020 #23
sarcasmo Aug 2020 #25

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:33 PM

1. Sadly not at all hyperbolic.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:38 PM

2. I don't remember her mentioning North Korea

Rachel Maddow is comparing what Trump is attempting to do by strong-arming intelligence, and manipulating the post office and justice department with an eye on maintaining power with how foreign dictators remain in power.

The footage of Belarus law-enforcement's treatment of protesters is way too close to what's happening here. We do need to pay attention to what Trump is doing to circumvent and beat down United States norms.

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:44 PM

6. she did and saddam hussein as well.

She was saying that these dictators used to control the vote and be reelected with silly numbers like 99 %.
there is no way whatsover we will have that here. States control elections and I cznt see California for example report 99 % for Trump..

in all of these countries the dictators control the votes. that is not the case here. of course he is going to try to cheat, deligitimize it and so on .

As far as the feds goon squads that too is being squashed after the pushback. Trump maybe a wannabee dictator but he does not have the brains and means to do as much.


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Response to drray23 (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:56 PM

13. I stand corrected on North Korea

And I agree about Trump not having the brains. I've posted that often.

But she didn't compare as much as show parallels. Trump can't control the vote like entrenched dictators. He's not even a dictator - yet. But he sure as hell is trying.

I don't think we need to panic. I think we need to be aware of history and how dictators do consolidate power.

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Response to teach1st (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:59 PM

15. i agree 100 % with this. nt.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:43 PM

3. Nope, not an exaggeration, unless one has been out of the country for the last three years

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:25 PM

27. Agree 110%

Last 4 years.

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Response to triron (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:29 PM

28. my mistake, thanks

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:43 PM

4. So she's supposed to report the news in a way to convince us that Trump will lose?

I don’t go to news for wish-fulfillment.

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Response to enough (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:47 PM

9. she is doing neither. It is a warning what has been happening

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Response to enough (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:47 PM

10. exactly nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:44 PM

5. Plenty of defeatists here will love it

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:45 PM

7. I think you mean a bit 'Rachel'

 

take a current news story, amp up the hyperbolic language and hyperventilating speculation, then come up with 37 ways to say the same news bite differently and you've gone full Maddow.

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:36 PM

22. That's half Rachel

 

Once she repeats exactly the same thing, then you've got full Rachel

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:52 PM

24. 😎

 

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:13 PM

26. lol. that's why I find her hard to watch. the repetition. it drives me crazy

I know she means well

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:47 PM

8. I'm watching her and she's not saying or implying that at all

She's provided examples of authoritarianism, and warned us that Trump can and probably will use all his means to win.

Exhibit A: Slowing down mail service so mail-in ballots are not counted after the deadline.

Trump DOES have a strong authoritarian streak. We are lucky he is not a lot smarter.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:48 PM

11. Thank you

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:04 PM

17. If we assume the worst, it's likely closer to our future than assuming that the gop will act in

a normal, law-abiding manner. I have no problem with people running around with their hair on fire, warning us of a continuation and acceleration of the most corrupt, immoral, arrogant use of power we've ever seen.

Not that Rachel is exaggerating, because she's not.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:51 PM

12. Not hyperbolic at all. All the things she mentioned

Are just coincidence I guess. The corruption is real and deep please don't dismiss it.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:58 PM

14. i am not dismissing it.

i know Trump is going to try to steal the election but there are things he cant manage to do here that established and smart dictators can.
for example, the federal government does not run or control elections unlike all these other countries.
he is trying to mess with usps but that too will backfire. its going to suppress as many gop votes than ours. many states will and do count all the mail in ballots before the election. people are aware of the crap trump is trying to pull and will request ballots early. in many states you can drop it ahead of time at registrar office or ballot drop boxes. young people are going to vote in mass this time and likely in person. we registered more dems than ever.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:59 PM

29. I agree

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:01 PM

16. Rachel is a debbie downer for sure

She's been doing this for years. It's her shtick. If you believed over the years, not a single Dem would've won any election since she's been on the air. I understand she is bringing attention to these issues, but she has a flare for the dramatic. I wouldn't get too caught up into Rachel.

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Response to Wanderlust988 (Reply #16)

Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:22 AM

30. Rachel is an outstanding anchor. The majority of her broadcast have been

enlightening. The bashing of her tonight seems suspect. What needs to be focused on is how similar the things happening is our country, daily, resemble what is happening with those associated with Putin. Drumpf is who needs to be dissected. He is a puppet carrying out orders for the destruction of our government, initiated by those who surround him. We are headed for ……….

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:04 PM

18. I'm voting in person on election day.

I want my vote to be counted on Nov. 3rd, not tossed out by some illegal executive order or technicality trump, Kemp, etc, caused.

I'll wear my mask and take my sanitizing wipes. I'll fight fascism 11/3.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:07 PM

19. yeah thats what i will do as well.

here in virginia you can also vote absentee in person well ahead of time at the registrar office in my little rural town, there is usually nobody there when i go. just two employees. they scan your ballot in front of you.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:24 PM

20. How much sunshine do you need blown up your ass along with the real, true, bad news?

There IS bad news to deliver, and there ARE serious concerns we should have.

This is NOT the same as saying "we have sunk to the level of belarus or north korea and that Trump will be reelected".

But it is a real risk that Trump and the Republicans will employ enough Belarus-like tactics to put Trump back in office. It CAN happen. Take it seriously, do what you can to fight it, and don't blame the messenger.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:31 PM

21. Gave up cable news four years ago. It's great!

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:41 PM

23. Today has been kind of demoralizing

Between Morning Joe, Rachel, and the other shows, it kind of feels like trump is attacking us from every angle and nothing is being done about it.

I'm going to do my part and get everyone I know to vote as quickly as humanly possible so that the votes can be tallied BEFORE election day. It still sucks that we're at this point.

Once the ability to vote is taken from us, the only recourse left will be violence.

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