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Kyblue1

(216 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 05:57 PM Aug 2020

The media is creating a false issue that Harris won't have the support of some progressives

because she prosecuted minorities when she was a District Attorney. Should she have declined to do her job if a black or brown person was arrested and indicted for a crime? Unless they can credibly prove that she treated minorities more harshly than white defendants, their argument must fail. I’m sure that minority victims did not complain when she enforced the law.

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The media is creating a false issue that Harris won't have the support of some progressives (Original Post) Kyblue1 Aug 2020 OP
Russian disinformation outreach starting now, beachbumbob Aug 2020 #1
You got that right vlyons Aug 2020 #5
There was a similiar Wellstone ruled Aug 2020 #22
What "media". If you're gonna make that charge-- show us. TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #10
The Guardian Bobstandard Aug 2020 #27
The Guardian is kompromised too? ananda Aug 2020 #33
ABC had a black, female commentator on right after the speeches today Kyblue1 Aug 2020 #34
That's always been around, but it's the curse of the Democrats that no matter how good... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #37
Yesterday I was surprised that BBC called her a centrist, from the "centrist wing" of the betsuni Aug 2020 #40
And the bots are out in force. Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #4
Kinda like needing HRC speech notes to corporations and such? You know, just so we are informed? LizBeth Aug 2020 #8
The poster just joined yesterday. The trolls are out... Bobstandard Aug 2020 #18
Another woman and immediately a demand no man gets thrown at them. And the people just really LizBeth Aug 2020 #19
Need help with Oppo research do you? Bobstandard Aug 2020 #17
Have a snack while you look for your links. lapucelle Aug 2020 #26
A woman defense attorney came out for Harris saying she was the MOST progressive DA. LizBeth Aug 2020 #6
Yes, I saw that, actually a Public Defender, I think. elleng Aug 2020 #28
Right. I am not concerned, further see her asset that DA experience so I did not spend much time on LizBeth Aug 2020 #31
Eleted San Francisco Public Defender, not just defense attorney Bobstandard Aug 2020 #29
Excellent. Our Dems always come thru and so recognizable from HRC run. Sec of State was a bonus and LizBeth Aug 2020 #32
In the grand scheme of things ... I don't much mind if 'the media' says that ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #7
+1 CentralMass Aug 2020 #13
The Problem, Sir, Is That Are 'Ultras' Feeding This To The Media Beast The Magistrate Aug 2020 #9
Sure, the 2 Bible Burners in PDX might. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #12
You joined DU yesterday just to tell us that, huh? n/t Bobstandard Aug 2020 #20
I googled you and looked at the case. rzemanfl Aug 2020 #30
DU folks predicted this exact story line-- Bobstandard Aug 2020 #14
It was wrong when Democrats did this to Harris because they supported someone else. It is wrong now. LizBeth Aug 2020 #23
Oh, of course you're right- rzemanfl Aug 2020 #15
Do you really think she will have the support of ALL progressives? Yes, she will lose some mucifer Aug 2020 #16
Harris clocks in ahead of Sanders on progressive issue. I do not think she needs to hide from that. LizBeth Aug 2020 #24
ABC's first two commentators were black women Sympthsical Aug 2020 #21
Really? Because Harris' very lifetime experience just doesn't cut it? Wow. Harsh. LizBeth Aug 2020 #35
They weren't excessively negative about her at all Sympthsical Aug 2020 #39
Harris need not validate her own personal experience to me, for sure. I trust she has this one. LizBeth Aug 2020 #41
Can you point us towards a particular media outlet creating this specific narrative? LanternWaste Aug 2020 #25
Haven't seen that myself ornotna Aug 2020 #36
We all need to respond to that every time. MuseRider Aug 2020 #38
"We may not all be happy with either of our candidates" I am so passed the need to say this, too. LizBeth Aug 2020 #42
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. Russian disinformation outreach starting now,
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 05:59 PM
Aug 2020

not going to work no matter how hard the media pushes it on us

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. You got that right
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

We already lived through how the RW demonized Hillary for 30 years, with the Russians piling it on in 2016.

We ain't gonna let them divide us on Harris.

Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Bobstandard

(1,278 posts)
27. The Guardian
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:24 PM
Aug 2020

The headline: Why Black progressive women feel torn about Kamala Harris

You can look it up. It's the same old same old.

Kyblue1

(216 posts)
34. ABC had a black, female commentator on right after the speeches today
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:33 PM
Aug 2020

She said she didn’t want to throw a wet blanket on the enthusiasm of the Dems but said there is a division in the party with some being critical of Harris’ reputation a saw a prosecutor.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
37. That's always been around, but it's the curse of the Democrats that no matter how good...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:37 PM
Aug 2020

you are, you're never good enough for some people.

betsuni

(25,122 posts)
40. Yesterday I was surprised that BBC called her a centrist, from the "centrist wing" of the
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
Aug 2020

party who will disappoint the "Bernie Sanders people."

Voltaire2

(12,610 posts)
3. And the bots are out in force.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:02 PM
Aug 2020

Isn’t it obvious how this works by now?

Hopefully we will not engage and amplify the attack.

Response to Kyblue1 (Original post)

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
19. Another woman and immediately a demand no man gets thrown at them. And the people just really
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:16 PM
Aug 2020

think they are being so just in their righteous to have the expectation that the woman will accommodate. And so it begins.

Bobstandard

(1,278 posts)
17. Need help with Oppo research do you?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

The San Francisco Public Defender's testament to her fairness is good enough for me.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
6. A woman defense attorney came out for Harris saying she was the MOST progressive DA.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

We need to have that conversation often. Harris did not get much of a chance during the primary. Now with Dems together, maybe we can all support her on this.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
31. Right. I am not concerned, further see her asset that DA experience so I did not spend much time on
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020

it. A fast perusal.

Bobstandard

(1,278 posts)
29. Eleted San Francisco Public Defender, not just defense attorney
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

The San Francisco Public Defender of 20 years who worked on the other side of the aisle from Kamala calls her fair and progressive.

Read all about it if you want: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/08/10/kamala-harris-progressive-pioneer-san-francisco-da-column/3334668001/

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
32. Excellent. Our Dems always come thru and so recognizable from HRC run. Sec of State was a bonus and
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:31 PM
Aug 2020

the right and those opposed to her used it as a weapon. Women being powerful. I know they were always making absurd accusations and with HRC I was able to trust that the accusations were false. It is nice to have that confidence in our politicians.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. In the grand scheme of things ... I don't much mind if 'the media' says that ...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

The battle here is not for the sort of progressives that would outright not vote for Biden/Harris because she, you know, did her job.

Those folks are probably as unreachable as Cult45.

The message that she's no fan of lawlessness, and wasn't afraid to prosecute POC's even though she is one ... is overall a vote-winner, not a vote-loser. Esp. in the places we most need the votes.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
9. The Problem, Sir, Is That Are 'Ultras' Feeding This To The Media Beast
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:07 PM
Aug 2020

People like Breanna Joy Grey, and Nina Turner.

Response to Kyblue1 (Original post)

Bobstandard

(1,278 posts)
14. DU folks predicted this exact story line--
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:10 PM
Aug 2020

Modern media loves stories with conflict in them. If necessary, they will invent conflict where there is none. I'm sure that right now numerous media analysts are looking for that one disaffected, Bernie Bro or Warren Wonk or Amy Somethingorother who is willing to play into the conflict story line. Thus a total outlier will help build the media narrative.

I'm guessing and pretty much sure that legitimate Bernie Bros are following Bernie's lead and supporting the ticket. Hell, they don't even need his lead. They want a progressive future and will do what it takes to make that happen. Their unwavering support for Bernie and his policies says that.

We should have had a betting pool on who got their first with this "issue".

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
23. It was wrong when Democrats did this to Harris because they supported someone else. It is wrong now.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:19 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe we can have all Democrats get on the same page with this seeing it is not an issue. Harris did a good job, her job and is well respected and has no reason to "hide" her accomplishment. These are all the very subtle shades of a woman running. No mans careers are being called out. Klobuchar is too mean and Harris did her job.

mucifer

(23,371 posts)
16. Do you really think she will have the support of ALL progressives? Yes, she will lose some
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:11 PM
Aug 2020

as would AOC lose some more conservative democrats. I just don't think she will lose a lot of voters.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
24. Harris clocks in ahead of Sanders on progressive issue. I do not think she needs to hide from that.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

She is like #3 or #1 in the Democratic party. I do not remember but I know she ranked high enough to not have to make excuse for being too right.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
21. ABC's first two commentators were black women
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:17 PM
Aug 2020

I didn't catch their names. One's was Yvette something. And they both said Kamala had some "work" to do with the black community because of her record as prosecutor. They both were definitely on the positive side about her, but they both brought up the prosecutor thing.

And they went almost straight out of the gate with that.

So, we can expect to hear about it. And I don't think either of those commentators are "far Left" (which seems to consist of whatever disagrees with moderates in the slightest).

Again, the two women were roughly 90% positive about her. But they both brought it up and outlined potential problems.

Sympthsical

(8,928 posts)
39. They weren't excessively negative about her at all
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
Aug 2020

But they both seemed to signal that it was probably her biggest problem.

I'm just reporting, since some people seemed to doubt the OP.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Can you point us towards a particular media outlet creating this specific narrative?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

"I'm sure" you're not simply making things up, throwing them at the wall and hoping it sticks.

MuseRider

(34,057 posts)
38. We all need to respond to that every time.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
Aug 2020

We may not all be happy with either of our candidates or only one and some will not like either of them but dammit, there are only a few that will not suck it up to vote out the monster we have now. They are all yelling now but my guess is they will settle in, either learn to like something about the ticket or just realize if they don't vote and/or don't vote for Biden/Harris we are doomed to suffer under the worst human being on the entire planet who will not only wreck us entirely but will wreck many of the chances other countries have of succeeding with what they actually did to try to make things better.

The media needs to shut up about this. They need to know and say that no matter what we think we are voting Trump out and will expend every last ounce of energy to see that happen.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
42. "We may not all be happy with either of our candidates" I am so passed the need to say this, too.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 06:53 PM
Aug 2020

I heard someone say something about our two imperfect compassionate people and trump mess, or something.

We always started with, HRC isn't perfect, But she is damn good.

No more. I do not have to qualify with a candidate not being perfect or they were not my choice. I too have been there, and I am done with that.

It is Biden/Harris and I am not putting anything in front of that to appease others or myself.

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