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relayerbob

(6,536 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:06 PM Aug 2020

How can we arrange a nationwide across-the-board strike

Seriously. I have no idea on where to start or who to talk to.

This is what brought Solidarnosc into power in Poland. Strikes work.

I'd suggest a time frame like the dates of the GOP convention, but clearly way too soon.

We need to hurt the money backers of the GOP to feel some real pain. We partially shut down the economy for Coronavirus. Let's do it for real.

Who can help?

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How can we arrange a nationwide across-the-board strike (Original Post) relayerbob Aug 2020 OP
Get the unions to start walk outs. progressive nobody Aug 2020 #1
Agreed relayerbob Aug 2020 #6
We can't. TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #2
Not 1877 any more relayerbob Aug 2020 #5
But not ours. Unions have far less power than they had in the past and we can't even get... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #8
That's pretty defeatist relayerbob Aug 2020 #9
It's not defeatist-- it's realistic. We can get things done, we just have to find out how... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #11
Maybe we should work to GOTV soothsayer Aug 2020 #3
Already am relayerbob Aug 2020 #4
So maybe make good trouble to get businesses to decry the postal shenanigans? soothsayer Aug 2020 #7
Yes, that's the point of a general strike relayerbob Aug 2020 #10
We aren't the French. It's not in our political DNA. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #12
It won't start with one internet rando Codeine Aug 2020 #13
Sorry, this is not a country in which a general strike can happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #14
I'm a 71 year old Senior who's lucky to still have a job to go to, and an affordable place to live NBachers Aug 2020 #15
Apparently September 1 is the date MoonlitKnight Aug 2020 #16
Thank you relayerbob Aug 2020 #18
I'm seeing some others for that date relayerbob Aug 2020 #19
Also find out who donates to Trump and boycott McCamy Taylor Aug 2020 #17

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. We can't.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:16 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Great-Railroad-Strike-of-1877


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The strikes dissipated, first and foremost, because the federal army did not break. Unlike the militias, those professional soldiers stayed together and followed orders. The strikes also collapsed because, despite the fears of the industrialists and the government, they were not organized uprisings but rather spontaneous outbursts. Once the anger of the strikers and crowds had run its course, so too did the revolt. There had been no leaders with greater political vision to take command of the strikers.

More than 100,000 workers participated in the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, at the height of which more than half the freight on the country’s tracks had come to a halt. By the time the strikes were over, about 1,000 people had gone to jail and some 100 had been killed. In the end the strike accomplished very little. Some national politicians talked of labour reforms, but nothing came of it. Industrialists continued to cut wages and break unions. In a few years the Great Railroad Strike of 1877 was all but forgotten.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. But not ours. Unions have far less power than they had in the past and we can't even get...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:26 PM
Aug 2020

people to wear masks-- we're going to get them to strike?

A strike of any kind is expensive, and if we can get little support for organizing at Amazon or Walmart, how we gonna get support for a national strike?

Cheaper and easier to buy a few Congressmen. That's what the other side does.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. It's not defeatist-- it's realistic. We can get things done, we just have to find out how...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:34 PM
Aug 2020

We'll have a lot more success getting out the vote and firing these bastards.

Then we may not have to strike.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
7. So maybe make good trouble to get businesses to decry the postal shenanigans?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:25 PM
Aug 2020

I don’t know how exactly, but drumpf would react to negative feedback from businesses or to stories about businesses failing because of the USPS debacle.

Assuming it’s the USPS that’s keeping us from voting.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. It won't start with one internet rando
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:44 PM
Aug 2020

asking a handful of other Internet randos how to do it; were a general strike that simple we would have already managed them.

Solidarity was successful because it started as a single trade union in an industry that was both geographically concentrated (the shipyards in Gdańsk) and utterly essential to the economy, formed after decades of repression that makes what we’re experiencing seem like kindergarten. That’s a confluence of events that is incredibly rare, and is probably not a model one should assume is applicable to any given situation.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
14. Sorry, this is not a country in which a general strike can happen.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:26 AM
Aug 2020

Lots of reasons.

Weak unions for one.

No sense of across the board solidarity for another.

A huge gap between working classes and everyone else for yet another.

It's a nice idea, but won't happen.

NBachers

(17,080 posts)
15. I'm a 71 year old Senior who's lucky to still have a job to go to, and an affordable place to live
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:39 AM
Aug 2020

in the city, and enough food to eat. If I don't work, I lose all this. Please don't volunteer me. I've been homeless; I've been hungry; I've broken the law and done major time in prison trying to support my family, which I lost. I know brutal reality. I ain't goin' back.

Sorry to be a brutal realist. Spare me your counter-arguments or accusations.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
16. Apparently September 1 is the date
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

Not sure how many will participate or if it will fizzle out.

If you think it has a chance of happening, refill those prescriptions.

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