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Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:05 AM

I think they're gonna try to link Biden to a child sex ring

There are too many murmurings about pedophilia on BookFace and it is rearing its head in multiple ways

I think THAT is their October Surprise. I don't know the best way to combat it, other than to say to call it out, because you know it isn't true.

It is rampant right now, which is why I think they're laying the groundwork

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:06 AM

1. who cares

 

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:07 AM

4. I do.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:24 AM

33. All Democratic leaders are linked, a given that all else

is built on. We'll get to see how well the LittleFaceGate scandal that Joe's one of those who also eats children's faces goes over.

At least this is becoming a huge problem for the right, and for evangelical sects in general, many of which are being badly harmed by many Qers corrupting their religion with insanely extreme political nuttery.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

86. Your concern is duly noted. Trump is a liar and dirty trickster...it won't work.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #86)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:12 PM

117. Thanks. But it worked in 2016, so I won't be backing down

Thanks for the kick though

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:07 AM

2. FFS, really, this is what you want to discuss?? nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:09 AM

9. FFS that how you wanted to reply?? nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:18 AM

25. Self delete. nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:40 AM

54. i second it

 

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #54)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:42 AM

56. No thank you, but thanks for that.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #56)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:59 AM

92. This only hurts our side...so why would you even post this...self delete. I have no one on

ignore...but you are heading there right now and I am trashing this terrible OP...shameful.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #92)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:08 PM

97. PLEASE do that instead of thinking you will browbeat me into submission

I will NOT be self deleting.

Please use that ignore button. I will consider it a badge of honor

Really. Full and final answer. Not gonna change my mind. Not now. Not with 3 or 4 more tantrums. I. disagree. with. you. and. will. not. kowtow. to. you. this. day. or. any. other.

Thanks.

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:42 AM

57. No. maybe you should though. nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:20 PM

100. second this

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #100)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:25 PM

103. Nice try. No dice.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #100)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:26 PM

104. but thanks for the kick though.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:07 AM

3. We already had a supposed child sex ring in the basement of

pizza place that didn't actually have a basement. What else is new?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:08 AM

6. They still think it's true. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

11. Some of them think virus is a hoax, or that Earth is flat.

Not much you can do about people like this.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:43 AM

58. when they are coordinating and resurrecting child sex rings, there sort of is nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:08 AM

5. Oh PLease

and really, I wouldn't go there if I were them. We will be flooded with pics of him and Ivanka cuddling.

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Response to Me. (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

10. and the video of him saying he thought she and he had SEX in common.

we have to be ready

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:08 AM

7. Projecting their own issues again

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:23 AM

29. Yep

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:59 AM

93. It's what they do

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Response to davekriss (Reply #93)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:02 PM

94. Of course.

It's not like they are intelligent people loving consciously in reality.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:44 PM

136. tRUMP & Republican Projections are where the Democratic Party must not fail...

The Democratic Party must compile clips of their prior projections and follow with what has come out about tRUMP & Republicans to educate anyone who doesn't see what they are doing. Don't explain what is happening or defend who they attack, because they ignore facts and only respond to visual stimuli. But do dump their projections all back in their laps by showing the fantasy freaks the real facts about those who feed them their fantasy conspiracies.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #136)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:48 PM

137. Great idea!

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #136)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:54 PM

139. THANK YOU!!! Every bit of THIS!!!! nt

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #136)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:16 PM

153. You should send this to Meidastouch. They are on twitter and busting out ads.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:09 AM

8. Yes...

... I've already seen this stuff. I've seen social media posts saying he'a a pedo and showing photos of him smelling kids' hair. They will go very low and we should be prepared. There is no "bottom" with these people... it will be worse than Obama or Hillary.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

15. AMEN...no bottom...we have to anticipate their next moves

and they will stop at NOTHING. The TRUTH doesn't matter...the FACTS don't matter.

"When they go low, you go high" got us a Russian infiltration...

"When they go low, DON'T BACK DOWN" is how we take it

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

23. Yeah, I've seen one being circulated

of him "smelling a girls hair". Actually it was Beau's daughter (his granddaughter( and it was at Beau's funeral.

They go low. We go high. Chant it like a mantra.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:22 AM

28. They aren't even bottom of the barrel. They're under the barrel rotting in their filth!

The GOP never does anything based on their merits, because they have none. It's always based on lies, distortions and smoke screens. It's become a party of freaks and filth.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:04 PM

95. Likely will be worse

Because many rethugs are facing prosecution.

"Open and shut case." 😉

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

12. Yesterday, three times, I reported the same video..

from the same (now ex) FB friend supposedly showing all the times Biden has molested children in public. The friend posting them is a trumper with a long history of being abused and trafficked herself, and it’s impossible to convince her that this is not true. She “knows” because she has been there. Of course, the videos did not violate FB’s nonexistent TOS so they’re still there.

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Response to luvs2sing (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:11 PM

99. Thank you for fighting though. It matters that you do

and I am proud of you for it.

We can't back down and just let them get away with it

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

13. I fear that FOX gal, Perrino (sp?) was sending a message with her Biden comment.

I hope the FBI questions her and puts a stop (or, at least a scare) to any more comments like it.

If they truly connect him with another pizza parlor/child sex ring, it won't be surprising since the Repukes only think of sex at many levels. They have a severe problem, not only with their accusations, but with their own crimes...convictions.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:11 AM

14. Got a link on that?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

18. on the stuff happening on FB?

it's rampant. Head over there and take a look for yourself.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:15 AM

21. on the BookFace stuff? it's rampant

Head over there and have a look for yourself

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 AM

47. see post #30. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

16. I think Qanon is trying to keep these rumors going. There are some who want to believe it.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:39 AM

52. that very well could be, but they are laying the groundwork now

and ignoring it just gives them the head start they want

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:55 AM

90. I agree

The Q Klan has a sweet spot for pedo scandals; it's at the heart of their belief system. Trump presumably is going to round up all these pedophiles (global in nature) after which there will be mass executions.

It's really a sick, violent strain running through Republican politics.

And we thought the Tea Party gang was bad. Yikes!

I think most Americans find this line of attack sickening.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:02 PM

141. And that crazy cult is growing. I had no idea how

many of those dangerous fruitcakes there are, but there was discussion of this on one of the MSNBC shows I watched last night. The guest was a woman who has been following them for a couple/few years. Scary.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

17. ...

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

19. Would that be the one trump was running out of his modeling agency?

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:41 AM

55. I thought that was why they are doing it too...remember the Foundation stuff?

The Clinton Foundation bullshit was three times around the world before the truth even had a chance to put its shoes on

Even now, the Trump Foundation needing to dissolve looks like retribution for going after the Clinton Foundation. No, I don't *agree* with that, but that is how it happened.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #55)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

73. You are the only one resurrecting this stuff.

We know who we are dealing with and so does the Biden campaign and The Lincoln Project.

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Response to Polly Hennessey (Reply #73)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:14 PM

119. so me...and the Biden campaign, and Project Lincoln and

different posts on this thread? I am NOT the only one seeing this. But thanks for your concern

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:15 AM

20. Stop amplifying bullshit

How do people still not know how this works?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:31 AM

40. Same way people don't seem to know how discussion on a political message board works? Or

what a political discussion board is for?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:33 AM

43. Not amplifying...COMBATTING bullshit

PS. I ain't your echo chamber or your underling.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #43)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:39 AM

53. you did nothing to combat it

 

you just flung rw rumors out there

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #53)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

59. Nope. I said what I think they're up to. Forewarned is forearmed

You're welcome

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #53)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

85. Correct, but even if this was some debunking, that's still useless

This kind of stuff works by being propagated, period. Debunking doesn't work. It is effective the more it is spread, period. BaltmoreMike is like a cavalry officer in World War I. He has no idea how the new technology of information warfare works, and it's pretty sad and pathetic. Stop amplifying and sign al boosting nonsense, period.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #85)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:31 PM

108. *NOPE* This thing propagates when it is not challenged, period.

Last edited Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #108)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:01 PM

140. wrong. Obama birth certificate and Pizzagate propagated despite push back

 

you really have no leg to stand on here.

out of all of the good topics to discuss about Dems you went with this. says a lot.

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #140)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:44 PM

144. but not NEARLY to the extent it would have were we not to fight back

I said what *I* think they are doing. I am not alone. For someone taking the position of "don't bring up the subject" your RESPONDING AT ALL says the same about you that you are trying to put on me.

PS. The birth certificate thing did grow immensely before Obama. himself. addressed. it.

Thanks for the kick though. Still standing.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #144)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:50 PM

158. i know you are trying to keep visibility to this thread by keeping it kicked

 

I am doing the same knowingly kicking your thread for different reasons

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #158)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:58 PM

159. and yet here you are...LOL. PS, that's "you're"

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #158)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:01 PM

161. and thanks for the kick again

I appreciate your super cool attempt to be a DU discussion board strategist. But that you respond over and over again really does prove my point. We respond to things we disagree with.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:39 AM

51. exactly

 

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Response to SiliconValley_Dem (Reply #51)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

61. Forewarned is forearmed.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #61)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:21 AM

82. You're just spreading it around

Your idea that you're combatting this stuff in any way is silly, outdated, and delusional.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #82)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:30 PM

106. *Nope*. The idea that I ignore it or just let them say it without throwing water on their flames

just allows it to become the narrative, instead of a debate.

I do appreciate you though...with that "spreading it around" thing. If that were the case, and you really are thinking it, WHY ARE *YOU* KICKING IT UP?? Isn't that "spreading it around"?

Perhaps you really don't think what you post?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:17 PM

163. So you're in favor of supporting an allegation with objective evidence?

rather than simply getting hysterical or overly-emotional when asked for that evidence?

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:15 AM

22. They could say he is an alien from outer space. Who the fuck cares?

Their nonsense will gain no traction. Not this time.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

24. Trump is already linked to a child sex ring.

Does he really want to go there?

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #24)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:23 AM

32. Doesn't he always go there?

He like to project.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #24)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:33 AM

44. That's what he does...project. We have to smash it down. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:20 AM

26. I think their October Surprise will be their own surprise. Surprise! Your smears don't work anymore.

There is a kind of "herd immunity" that the country has acquired over the past almost four years, from his outlandish lies day in and day out - trump could lie and say Biden eats kittens for breakfast and other than his small permanent base - no one would even flinch anymore.

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Response to FM123 (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:46 AM

64. I really hope you're right.

But we have to be ready if that's wrong.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #64)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:14 AM

76. For an Oct. surprise to work it has to be believable.

Biden connected to a pedo ring is about as believable as Hillary and the pedo ring in a pizza shop.

Their Oct. surprise will probably come from Barr's continuing investigations into Biden's son/Ukraine, which has really already been debunked. Only trump's base will believe any pedo shit, and they're already voting for him so there's no added value in pushing that trash.

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Response to brush (Reply #76)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:33 PM

110. An oft repeated lie becomes the truth to gullible folks, that's why we need to challenge it

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #110)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:45 PM

111. The only ones gullible enough to believe that are his base and they will always vote for him...

so there's no vote-gain in pushing such an unbelievable story.

IMO if there's an Oct. surprise at all from the repugs it'll have to be more substantive/believable than Biden in a pedo ring. That dog won't hunt.

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Response to brush (Reply #111)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:16 PM

121. That's YOUR opinion. Not mine, or others on this very thread. Thanks

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #121)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:21 PM

124. Keep pushing repug, anti-Biden propaganda. You're doing a wonderful job, Brownie.

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Response to brush (Reply #124)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:26 PM

128. See how you KEEP responding? That's what I want to do to Trump Chumps on FB

By doing it, repeatedly, you KEEP proving my point.

Do you think I should remain silent about the shit they're pulling? If that's the case, why don;t you practice what you preach?

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #128)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:28 PM

130. Spread actual facts about trump/repug failures (170,000 dead from covid) not anti-Biden,...

repug talking points.

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Response to brush (Reply #130)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:31 PM

131. That's your OPINION. I am not spreading repug talking points

But you KEEP responding to something you don't like. By doing so, you are proving my point. Really.

Succinctly.

I am not repeating repig talking points. I am saying what *I* see on the horizon.

I am not alone. Please don't try to control me. Your responding to this PROVES MY POINT that we need to be ready.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #131)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:33 PM

132. Don't be naive. That stuff is coming from trump/russian bot central.

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Response to brush (Reply #132)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:34 PM

134. Not naive at all. It came from there in 2016 too. We need to address it, not ignore it

or shrink to some echo chamber of "I won't bring this up so they can spread it far and wide"

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #134)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:38 PM

135. trump/russian bot central, just as pizza gate in 2016. Wake up.

DUers aren't falling for this stuff. Post this stuff on indy sites pr facebook, somewhere where some who might be gullible enough to believe it hang out. But most of them will probably already be trump voters. But please proceed, governor.

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Response to brush (Reply #135)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:46 PM

145. So your continual responding PROVES my point

Please stop trying to move the goal post.

Oh, and when BookFace's fact checking game is borne from Tucker Carlson, when they are taking payment in rubles, pretending they don't matter, or can't do damage is utter folly.

We like to respond and address things we don;t like.

Thanks for proving it again and again. And for the kick.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #145)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:51 PM

147. DUers are knowledgeable to know better. Ply that stuff somewhere else.

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Response to brush (Reply #147)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:05 PM

149. No thank you.I am not your automoton

Thanks for the kick (and proving my point (again and again and again)

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #149)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:38 PM

157. You're really caught up in that, huh?

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Response to brush (Reply #157)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:06 PM

164. But I can see it for what it is

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Response to brush (Reply #76)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

112. I'm afraid you're wrong. A lot of people are believing

this. Way more than pizza gate. I think the pandemic screwed with their minds. They are believing and sharing qanon. I've infollowed dozens of people on Facebook. They're hashtagging save the children and holding rallies for God's sake. This isn't trivial. This is getting to swing voters.

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Response to OhioBlue (Reply #112)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:51 PM

114. I'm not saying many aren't believing it. I'm saying those people are already trump voters...

so there's no vote-gain pushing such trash. Deplorables will be deplorable.

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Response to brush (Reply #114)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:10 PM

116. I appreicate your position

but I know too many milquetoast folks for whom that is just not true.

Trump Chumps spread this to try and get fence folks less apt to vote.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #116)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:14 PM

118. That's your opinion. Btw, you're doing a pretty good job spreading repug, anti-Biden propaganda.

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Response to brush (Reply #118)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:15 PM

120. And that's YOUR opinion. Both times

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #120)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:22 PM

125. Keep pushing them repug talking points.

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Response to brush (Reply #125)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:25 PM

127. See how you keep responding to something you disagree with?

Like you *keep* doing it...the difference between you and me is that *I* want to do it to THEM, and you want to do it to ME.

Also, not their talking points to say what *I* think they're trying to pull. This is a *discussion* board, and I do not have to be your echo chamber. But thanks for your concern. And the kick.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:21 AM

27. First step is to get people talking about it on forums

The more people hear the more they believe it.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:35 AM

49. First dstep is to spread rampant memes...discussion boards discussing

how to combat it is NOT the same fucking thing.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #49)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

88. you should read up on the psychology of advertising

getting people to talk about it is extremely important if you want someone to believe it. Believe anything.

I won't repeat the topic. But it's a topic that I've only heard here. Not from the other side.

The other side appreciates it when we spread rumors against our own.


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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:13 AM

75. Yes, and someone is an eager tool. n/t

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:22 PM

101. bingo

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #101)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:31 PM

107. thanks for the kick...you are doing the exact opposite of what you're claiming is ineffective.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:23 AM

30. This is coming directly from Trump and his team

For example:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/trump-son-baseless-attack-biden-preview-dirty-campaign.amp

"Donald Trump Jr.’s Baseless Attack Calling Biden a Pedophile Is a Preview of the Dirty Campaign Ahead

By DANIEL POLITI

MAY 17, 202010:21 AM


When he was asked about it by the New York Times, Trump Jr. borrowed from his father’s tactics and wrote on Twitter that he was only kidding, telling his 5 million followers that the three laughing emojis in the caption of his post “should indicate to anyone with a scintilla of common sense” that he was just “joking around.” But then in the same post he also suggested there was something to the meme, saying the former vice president was guilty of “unwanted touching” as he included several obviously misleading photos of Biden with children.

The president’s son didn’t stop there. He continued to make clear he was going to continue pushing the baseless attack as he retweeted several supporters who agreed with his allegation. He then proceeded to tweet a video compilation of Biden showing affection to children, largely at swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol. “All the touching & hair sniffing is TOTALLY APPROPRIATE & 100% NORMAL,” he wrote in the tweet he has now pinned to his profile. “Everyone does it!” Trump Jr. then doubled down on a subsequent tweet that included another video compilation: “Does anyone really think this is normal behavior from Joe!???”

....


For now at least, Biden appears set against falling into these clear provocations from the Trump camp, characterizing them as efforts to distract Americans as the coronavirus crisis continues to engulf the nation. Some of Biden’s allies are convinced that Trump’s strategy will end up backfiring considering the soaring unemployment rate and rising COVID-19 death toll. “The public is really focused on what matters in this election. And they’re not being dragged into side issues and they are not being dragged into manufactured issues,” Mike Donilon, the senior strategist for Biden’s campaign, tells the Washington Post. “It’s just too serious. So I think Trump is risking a real problem in trying to push the conversation to a place where the country knows that’s not what’s at stake.".. (more)



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Response to Tanuki (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:29 AM

37. Team trDump,.... Smear Central.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:23 AM

31. Someone needs to leak info from the Maxwell case.

Dump is involved.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:25 AM

34. Breathless/Breaking reporting on Fux Nuz,..

The secret Epstein Papers and videos prove Biden prefers little girls. More after this commercial break.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:26 AM

35. To q rational person

It speaks volumes that they have no plan to improve or fix anything, so they have to lie about opponents.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:29 AM

36. Baltmike, thank you for the post.

I have noticed the same thing at several online sites, without specific ties to Biden, but this stuff is slowing starting to percolate. At this point, this stuff about child sex rings is popping up en masse, presumably by Russian Bots, and for no apparent reason.

I'm sorry to see that you are being criticized for posting this.

It is always better to have a heads-up on the enemy's plans than to be blindsided by them. When you know what bullshit you will be dealing with, you can better formulate a defense well before the time it becomes a problem.




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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:38 AM

50. Thank you for this LuckyCharms, I really appreciate it

I have a pretty thick skin, but I can see this ugly thing rearing its ugly head and the sooner we are ready for that battle, the better.

Someone on this thread said it succinctly...there is no bottom. That doesn't mean we don't have to get ready for it

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:30 AM

38. Fuck them and focus

almost 170,000 dead and approaching 5.5million infected

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:31 AM

39. "I wish her well."



All the Ways President Donald Trump is Connected to Ghislaine Maxwell

The accused Jeffrey Epstein accomplice was a regular in the same New York–Palm Beach social circuit.


https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a33393615/president-donald-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-relationship/

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:32 AM

41. My RWNJ sister posted in FB Biden owns the pedo island next to Epstein 's

did I mention she's a Qanon RWNJ, evangelical, anti vaxxer, anti masker plandemic pusher?

How am I even related to such ignorance?

Depressing

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Response to Sedona (Reply #41)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:45 AM

62. My brother is the same exact way

and we have to prepare for it.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:33 AM

42. Trump would have sex with his own daughter!

That’s how you respond.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:33 AM

45. Quick! To the Q mobile!

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 AM

46. The one that is

run out of the basement of the pizza shop that has no basement? That one? Or is this the one that is run from Mars? It's hard to keep the delusions straight.

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Response to ellie (Reply #46)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:50 AM

67. They're brining back Piza gate as though the basement was "hidden"

always saying that Epstein didn't kill himself and that pedophilia is the most important thing facing our country, not the pandemic. Many memes saying the same thing

I post the pic of Putin kissing that kid's stomach and it usually works, but there is too much coordination here. They're going to try something

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:35 AM

48. They're going to try many things.

Not all of them need to be brought here breathlessly, I think.

There is no link there. It's bullshit.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 AM

60. Opposition Research,... projecting the next line of fire,...

... from your adversaries before they launch their next missile aimed to land in your lap.

Damage control,... anticipating and formulating a response before your enemies missiles depart the launch silo and are heading your way.

A risk mitigation strategy,

by definition, is taking steps to reduce the risk (the severity of the impact and/or probability of the occurrence). Losses can quickly accumulate if rates rapidly change and, at that point, reducing the risk becomes considerably more costly.

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Response to magicarpet (Reply #60)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:48 AM

65. damn...this.

I was just thinking of having some links handy, about their bullshit...a rapid response kind of thing.

I won't be shrinking to anyone's complaining about my post though...that's for sure.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #65)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

80. There is a group for that here.

These kinds of posts might be better suited there if you are interested in debunking this kind of stuff.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1022

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:46 AM

63. I've seen this stuff of Facebook for a few years. DU'ers It is import to anticipate.

Pics of Joe near kids were all,over the place about two years ago. It seemed to die down a bit but I’ve seen it starting to pop up against.

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Response to underpants (Reply #63)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:53 AM

68. Thank you. It seems COORDINATED lately, and you're exactly right

it happened a few years back, died down, and now it's back..but the many forms in which its back made me think to see if we can't put our heads together here.

I know it's bullshit just like I know the earth isn't flat. When you encounter a flat earther, bring up the horizon, and it usually stops it cold.

There might be a similar tonic to this, if we get TO each other, instead of AT one another.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:50 AM

66. Of course they will. And our response should be "Bullshit!"

They lie and that should be our mantra from now until November. Everything they say is a lie, especially when it comes to Biden and Harris. They will say anything and everything to discredit them, no matter how outrageous it is. Ever hear of the "Boy Who Cried Wolf?" Sooner or later the people will see through their bullshit.

Never defend, never explain. Just dismiss their lies outright for the lies they are. Call them liars, call them desperate, but never go on the defensive, because at that point we will have lost.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:03 AM

69. Smart post! Let's just spread that rumor with your ridiculous title...

Holy shit the fact this post is left up with your awful post title is really amazing to me. There is literally nothing good about your post. And you can reply back that you're trying to combat that but it falls on deaf ears when the post title is so in your face offensive and does nothing to combat this awful smear (no different than a newspaper headline).

You should be ashamed of yourself for pushing conspiracy bullshit under the guise of combating it. There is nothing in your sick, accusatory post title that does any of that - and the title of often the only thing people read.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #69)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:06 AM

70. exactly! how is this post still up?!

 

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #69)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

83. Amazes me how many people on DU

always fall for the same schlock. Defending the right to continually repeat the gossip that we have heard for years.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:09 AM

71. Unlike Don with his good friends Epstein and Maxwell

"I wish her well"

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Response to eShirl (Reply #71)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:25 PM

102. I think that is a good point to make, instead of ignoring it

or backing down

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:09 AM

72. Unless they have more than innuendo...

I think that ship has sailed.

Pizzagate pretty much exposed this all as fever-dream nonsense.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:12 AM

74. I heard it from someone in red red Florida this spring

So it’s out there, as unbelievable as it sounds. So don’t be so naive to think it won’t grow among the RWNJ crowd the closer we get to the election. It would not surprise me to hear Trump mention it.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

77. They're already at it.

Just go on Farcebook, and read the comments sections in any Biden-related stories from PBS/NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS, CBC, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Rolling Stone... The trolls have already started with the innuendo, and even some outright accusations.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #77)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

96. so true, and DNC strategists have their hands full. The Russian/right wing trolls

(and let's face it, is there really a difference? I mean...really??) are the masses.

And so are we.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

78. I think it's stupid to put this out there for them.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #78)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:33 AM

89. It is

It's done under the mistaken belief that this is "strategizing" against it. As if we are DNC insiders.

We aren't insiders. We aren't building strategy.

In this thread we are just creating a rumor that doesn't exist, while hoping that the other side doesn't repeat what was written.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

79. All we need to do

is make sure that photos of Drumpf with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell are on a loop with the video of him wishing her well. Then make sure to add in the photos of the victims in that montage.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

81. When talking to Maga Morons on FB or in person - I say something like this. Usually shuts them up:

No one has been able to come back with a thing.

"Oh yea, Joe the pedophile - yep you've seen all the photo and video evidence, right? There's no doubt he's a pedo. So obviously with all this evidence available to anyone, those parents have obviously have had Biden charged with multiple child sex crimes right?? Oh wait......."

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

84. They tried that forever...been around the entire primary and campaign. No one will believe them.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:24 AM

87. "If you elect Democrats, they will set up fake universities and scam charities!

They'll put little children in cages! A pandemic will sweep across the country! And they'll destroy the post office!"

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #87)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:08 PM

151. love this. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:57 AM

91. No doubt from the basement of a pizza parlor

Gawd, what nonsense.

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Response to davekriss (Reply #91)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

98. Oh, they've tried to ressurect that one

saying that basements can be sealed over...just *any* logic pretzel. An oft repeated lie becomes the truth if we let them get away with it

We can't let them

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:30 PM

105. Um, Epstein and Trump? Don't think they should even attempt that one lol

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:32 PM

109. If they're guilty of it, they will accuse the opposition of it.

I also suspect he'll blame Obama for the post office slowdown.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:50 PM

113. As I said in another post today - Republicans project

They try to project their own sins on their opposition. When they talk about child sex trafficking, think of this:



Why is Dolt45 sympathetic to Maxwell while attacking Democratic women? Because he knows shat she did and is sympathetic to it.

So any time a Republican posts a lie like this I KNOW that they are the ones guilty of it.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:52 PM

115. I see what's going on.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:18 PM

122. Make sure you spread it everywhere... cough

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #122)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:22 PM

126. See how you felt the need to respond to something you didn't like or approve of?

***COUGH*** Well that's the EXACT same thing I want to do too....the differnce is I want to do it to them, and you want to do it to me.

But thanks for the kick though

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #126)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:46 PM

166. Kicking again for you.

Your deep concern should get all the visibility it so richly deserves.

This cough tho.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #166)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:42 PM

168. Thank you. I suggest post #136

That cough though

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:20 PM

123. We must travel in different circles

I don't see that nonsense on my facebook.

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Response to ornotna (Reply #123)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:27 PM

129. we do indeed...and I am not the only one on this very thread saying so

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #129)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:52 PM

138. My Facebook is very restricted

I don't allow just any old crap to be posted to my feed.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:33 PM

133. I hope this is their october surprise

because nobody who isn't a Q nut will believe it, the media won't give it any coverage, and the average voter will never even see it.

If thats what they got then they got nothing.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:41 PM

142. What is this rumor garbage doing here?

How do we ask for this to be removed?

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Response to WestLosAngelesGal (Reply #142)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:48 PM

146. Thanks for your concern, but I am not your echo chamber

and do not need to acquiesce to you. Thanks for the kick though

Welcome to DU

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:04 PM

143. It's a legitimate discussion, but...

-

if you don't like it, don't reply.

Why keep kicking something that you don't like?
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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:07 PM

150. I can't see this working

Nobody but Qanonites will believe this for a heartbeat IMHO.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #150)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:23 PM

155. lots of my fence sitters do. And I dk if they're QAnon, One America or Fox

But we ignored this shit at our peril in 2016. I am not repeating it. If you don;t like it, I understand...but won't be changing my mind.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #155)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:28 PM

156. Those people are going to vote Trump anyway

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #156)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:59 PM

160. as I stated repeatedly, I know lots of fence sitters.

When they went low, we went high in 2016. When they go low in 2020, I am not backing down.

Thanks

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:15 PM

152. Get real. Who cares?

 

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Response to Kamala4TheWin (Reply #152)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:22 PM

154. see post #4 and post #92, Welcome to DU, and thanks for the kick. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:14 PM

162. What is the objective standard of "too many" and "rampant"?

Is there a standard against which this is being measured, or is it simply anecdotal and random postings convincing you to believe and unsupported and emotional premise?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #162)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:08 PM

165. I appreciate your attempt to marginalize my post

but I said what I said. I am not alone in my observation, and I CERTAINLY shouldn't refrain from a g-d thing to appease what other people try to bully me into. Thanks for the kick.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:33 PM

167. This is not a path the GOP should take, but they probably will

Trump has connections to a known child sex ring run by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, and there are a hell of a lot of really creepy pictures of Trump with his own daughter in highly inappropriate poses.

Trying to link Joe Biden, who is an honorable man, to a child sex ring would lead to a serious investigation of Trump's probable pedophilia.

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