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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat happens, in ANY presidential election, if on lets say October 15th
as in 3 weeks prior to election, with all the ballots made up or whatever (I am sincerely asking for the experts to tell me what happens) and for ANY reason the candidate for president on EITHER party ticket is unable to continue?
Forget why, forget which party this is happening to; for instance if 3 weeks prior to election the candidate for prez for X party disappears on a spaceship with aliens from another planet (trying to make this simple, generic and not complicated) what happens?
Does the VP candidate on that ticket become the P candidate if the party says that is what they want, or what happens, please someone tell me.
brush
(53,740 posts)party's position.
Cartaphelius
(868 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Squinch
(50,911 posts)Cartaphelius
(868 posts)Reading the post by Brush and then your echo made it clear.
Thanks Squinch.
murielm99
(30,715 posts)None of this is in the Constitution. It is up to the party. Then, I imagine all sorts of people will sue each other.
People have died and remained on the ballot. Some of them have even been elected after they are dead. But a President?
Let the speculation begin.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)want the VP to be the P on the ballot?
Has it ever happened on prez election, hasnt I am sure, so who knows exactly what happens legally or what the options are?
Gothmog
(144,915 posts)Dead persons have won elections. What happens is that the VP will step in
murielm99
(30,715 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)whoever is left on the ballot, good.
Glad to know. thanks
AnyFunctioningAdult
(192 posts)This is right. The dead/missing person would win the electors and then those electors would vote for someone else available, likely the VP nominee.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)brought up by Jeanine Pirro on FOX yesterday after the announcement of Harris being chosen for VP contention. Of course, she was quite snide about it, inferring that this was a very likely scenario for this year's election. She needs to take a closer look at the condition of her favored candidate.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)The GOP is saying Kamala is the "de facto" Democratic Presidential Candidate. They are stirring the shit, count on it. Putin is involved somehow.
MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)"take care of things" while he decides what to do next......
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)He is dumb enough to think he can just rekindle his TV persona immediately?
That "adding me to Mount Rushmore", come on man!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)it works.
Good one though...
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)In fact I hope they run a lot of ads featuring it, like:
He wants to be immortalized on Mount Rushmore..... long pause: For what Donald?
Then cut to over crowded hospital parking lots and sirens.
Show every greatest hit mega stupid thing he has uttered since taking office, it's going to be a longish ad!
MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)Auditions for writing for the "Lincoln Project" are two doors down on the "right!"
(Hope you get the job - good stuff!)
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Its too late to change them at that point.
Usually, the deceased or incapacitated person loses, but occasionally they get elected. The resolution to this problem varies and is dictated by state law.
-Laelth
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)where the ticket with the remaining person CANT win or something?
I am asking, I dont know.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The dead candidate stays on the ballot, and the dead candidate can win.
This problem is usually resolved with a special election.
-Laelth
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)I get it, to prepare for these things makes one an alarmist and the GOP says they want to make us act this way, but if we dont prepare, and we know for certain there is nothing at all they wont do, then what?
They get to have it both ways.
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rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Also this GOP bullshit-
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213898445
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)I had not seen what she said, until a while ago, I have been talking about this for weeks.
My problem is I know for a fact there is NO Line barr wont cross, none.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)whacked to sow chaos?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)anyone want to list all the things the DOJ or others have done with or for rump or by rump that we all said they cant do?
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)I was pointing out that NOTHING is off the table from their side including what you said, since they dont obey the law anymore, the entire GOP that is.
And putin is a murderous dictator.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Scary shit.
One hell of a roller-coaster ride we are in for, plus this fucking plague....
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global1
(25,224 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)the 50 states decide, one vote per state and that means traitor wins.
sigh
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
Barack and Joe Solve a Murder Mystery
It's a real book, and it may not help you a lot, but it is a fun read.
There's also a follow up book, "Hope Rides Again", that starts out with Biden complaining about the first book, but it's called, "Murder on the Amtrak Express," instead of the real title.
It's hilarious.
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judeling
(1,086 posts)This indirect method of election leaves it up to those Slates of electors so the most Likely outcome is the VP nominee becomes president and She picks the Vice President before the elector's vote, maybe even before the election.
MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)I see what you did there (and She picks) - LOVE IT!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)However, constitutionally, the electors would have to select a living person to become president. It would not default to the vice president nominee, as they were not elected president (that isn't to say the electors couldn't select the nominee, however).
What's interesting is if Trump were to pass away between the time ballots are locked in and the voting begins on election day, Mike Pence would assume the office and become president - but because he is on the ballot as the Vice Presidential nominee, he wouldn't automatically be reelected if the Trump-Pence ticket won because, again, the electors would have to choose a president at this point since there is no technical presidential candidate at this point.
It seems very likely they would turn around and vote in Pence, then he would nominate a VP who then would have to be approved by the Senate.
If it were the Democrats, and say the Biden-Harris ticket win, the Democrats likely would pick their new nominee and put it up to a vote with the electors. Reasonably, that person (and it could be Harris if they so choose), should win - but electors kind of would be free agents at this point as there is no federal law stating they have to vote a certain way.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)those who deserve it.