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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMore shenanigans: Mailbox openings are being locked shut
So it looks like the GOP and trump are still playing gotcha games. They claim they won't remove anymore mailboxes, but will the mailboxes be functional???
Link to tweet
The Post Office in Burbank, CA
All outdoor boxes locked shut. The entrance to the Post Office is locked and you cant mail a letter?
triron
(21,916 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Atticus
(15,124 posts)"removing an impediment intentionally installed as an attempt to delay or halt properly stamped US mail"?
Hekate
(90,202 posts)Can you eat a hundred eggs?
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car"
Hekate
(90,202 posts)I dont care if Im a winner or loser
Long as I got my gold mezzuzah...
Goin 90 it aint scary
Long as I got the Virgin Mary
Assurin me that I wont go to Hell ...
Atticus
(15,124 posts)strumming a makeshift guitar or banjo.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)as the guard was putting him in the box for the night and being apologetic about it.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)PSPS
(13,516 posts)flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)They are probably no longer collecting from the box
Volaris
(10,260 posts)That bippy would get itself spanked with a federal felony charge. Screwing around with Constitutionally mandated post routes is one of the oldest national crimes on the books, right?
progressive nobody
(816 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Heres a 2015 article. Sorry its behind paywall, but you can read enough to get the gist prevents people stealing from them at night.
https://www.latimes.com/socal/glendale-news-press/news/tn-gnp-montrose-post-office-branch-locking-mail-boxes-at-night-20150819-story.html
Heres a free one 2016.
https://www.dailynews.com/2016/04/23/thieves-raiding-valley-mailboxes-prompt-postal-service-to-take-action/
dsc
(52,130 posts)I thought it was a tony area of LA
tinrobot
(10,848 posts)Definitely not high crime, though.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)But we do have good reason to suspect shenanigans, unlike conspiracy theorists.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)We caught them, they are saying they will remove no more drop boxes (I don't believe them), so the lock them up. No mention about putting the ones already removed, BACK. The sorters have already faded. Are THEY going to be put back? (It is really hard to put back one that has been destroyed, and they won't be bothered to pull the ones out that are still in the dumpster...)
When questioned about the locks, they will say it is only done after dark to keep people from stealing mail (when it has never been a problem before in that area). Aren't all these problem areas where democrats are predominate?
It gives them justification, and STILL accomplishes EXACTLY what they set out to do.
Meanwhile, the dems are "considering" coming back from recess (when everything is now being done virtually) to issue some sternly worded letters and a threat of subpoenas. While simultaneously the republican senators really don't give a shit, and can't be made to do anything.
And how many days is it until the election?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)than Democrats.
Maybe we ought to be encouraging that. Most states that we need have Ballot Drop Boxes. GOPers can use the "crippled" PO, while we take our ballots to the drop boxes, or at least request ballots early and mail them back immediately.
"Which Party Would Benefit Most From Voting by Mail?
"Its Complicated -- Conventional wisdom has been that Democrats are more likely to benefit from voting by mail. But thats not what research has shown."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/us/vote-by-mail-coronavirus.html
Volaris
(10,260 posts)Dear Leader will brook no deviation from the requirement of his worship.
druidity33
(6,435 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Christ, everything is not a conspiracy.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,467 posts)The office is closed and they lock the boxes so no one can steal mail out of them.
ecstatic
(32,567 posts)which contains my nearest USPS mail/drop box. I think I'll drop by tonight to see if the box is even there anymore.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)ecstatic
(32,567 posts)and update everyone on the situation. It's possible some of us are becoming too paranoid, but it could be a brilliant strategy for the GOP, as it would be hard for people to prove to others that it's happening for the wrong reasons. Any locked boxes that were outed on social media could be opened back up on a case by case basis. That would take tremendous organization though... so hopefully you're right and there is nothing nefarious going on.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)catchnrelease
(1,942 posts)I'm in the East Long Beach/Lakewood area (very middle class, not high crime, altho' it's been getting worse) and we have had the mailboxes in our neighborhoods and at the actual PO changed to this kind of system. For at least a couple of years there have been increasing problems with people stealing mail out of the old style mailboxes--the kind with either drive up chutes or the pull open door at the top. You would to to put mail in either one and the entire openings would be full of sticky 'goop'. What was explained to us that complained, was that thieves would use wire, or other long implements with sticky substances on them, and essentially, fish for mail. That was the chute style. For the pull down door style, the sticky stuff would catch envelopes that were just tossed in and the person didn't check. So the mail piece would not fall down, but stick inside the door area.
So, now our outside boxes have either been removed or replaced with the kind in the photos that lock--yes at 5pm, or ones that have just a narrow slot that even has kind of a lip on it. And you really have to bend down and look to see that you are getting the letter into the slot. It's a little bit inconvenient, but at least it should deter theft. And no more getting gunk all over your hands when you went to mail a letter!
I do believe the PMGeneral is trying to screw over the USPS, but in this case I don't think these changes have anything to do with elections or voting, etc.
shanti
(21,672 posts)the sorting machines, but leaving them out in the elements WILL destroy them! MFers!
a kennedy
(29,467 posts)What the hell else can they do to make sure the orange piece of shit gets in AGAIN.
DSandra
(999 posts)What do we bring?
We have to learn how power works and how to get power, otherwise we will be steamrolled like this.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:33 AM - Edit history (3)
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/16/903056927/pelosi-calls-back-lawmakers-to-vote-on-postal-servicehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-democrats-post-office-campaign/2020/08/14/390f8b82-de4d-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html
Biden Slams Trump's New Remarks on Post Office
Link to tweet
So... what would Democrats 'bringing an AK47' to the fight actually mean specifically?
You continue to bash them as "weak" or "cowardly" or "do nothing" on thread after thread, yet won't say what you expect them to do that they are not.
That's not 'dissent,' just carping and sniping at Democrats and leadership, again and again and again. There are other places where Democrat bashing is welcomed, and you would be much happier there than on Democratic Underground.
You seem so familiar, though... even in the short time you've been on DU. You remind me of someone who hasn't posted here in a while.
DSandra
(999 posts)They would be on the defensive at least half of the time. They creamed us in 2010, and used the census year to redistribute many states to make it very hard for us to regain the house. They get to name our policies instead of us, like Obamacare. They make us look like a bunch of uptight nerds, which isnt a bad thing but in campaigns for a very powerful role, does matter to many. They have people like Frank Luntz, and past ones like Karl rove and Lee Atwater. I guess we had David Plouffe and David Axelrod, but where were they after 2012?
They keep on getting ahead of us, shows how we have not been playing the game as we should.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)He was a partner of Paul Manafort's and got Victor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine.
Maybe that's the kind of consultant you think that can teach the "poorly run" Democratic party how to "play the game as we should," and "get ahead like the GOP does?"
appalachiablue
(41,055 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)My apologies - I've been seeing posts like this that are serious as fuck. No irony, and literally that complete lack of understanding of what Pelosi can and cannot do as Speaker, as though she has a magic wand she's hiding away somewhere...
Illumination
(2,458 posts)environment (Arctic, Grand Canyon, etc) This discussion doesn't have to do with Nancy. However we can make it about her also if you'd like...Understand what you're getting at. For the record I think she's doing a great job (under the circumstances) Respect & admire her. She's an outstanding person. Would love to see her take over the reins...
Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)bucolic_frolic
(42,676 posts)Only open about 3/4". THen they replaced some with older style with shutes on the front. They're nice.
But yes, just stating they won't remove them, they didn't say they'd pickup the mail, or how often, or will process it quickly. They are just playing games with the public, and there's somebody directing this, and I'd bet paying dearly to make it happen.
ecstatic
(32,567 posts)...somehow. It's a lot to keep up with!! Maybe Congress can pass something requiring that residents of an area be notified of any changes to pick up times, "lock" times, etc. Of course, it might take months to receive such notice.
Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)Just sayin'...
liberalla
(9,166 posts)I am surprised that they're so bad at the sabotage of the USPS. GOP is low down dirty and corrupt through and through... but they've been much better at hiding their dastardly deeds in the past. It all seems more sloppy, clumsy and obvious this time.
I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised.
DFW
(54,055 posts)I said I wouldnt remove them. I never said you could use them.