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ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:13 PM Aug 2020

More shenanigans: Mailbox openings are being locked shut

So it looks like the GOP and trump are still playing gotcha games. They claim they won't remove anymore mailboxes, but will the mailboxes be functional???






The Post Office in Burbank, CA

All outdoor boxes locked shut. The entrance to the Post Office is locked and you can’t mail a letter?
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More shenanigans: Mailbox openings are being locked shut (Original Post) ecstatic Aug 2020 OP
Nancy get onto the shit asap! triron Aug 2020 #1
RIGHT NOW!!!!! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2
I possess a large bolt cutter. Can anyone tell me what the penalty would be for Atticus Aug 2020 #3
You suddenly reminded me of Cool Hand Luke cutting the heads off parking meters... Hekate Aug 2020 #7
"What we have here---is a failure to communicate!" nt Atticus Aug 2020 #9
Definitely my favorite line. nt Hekate Aug 2020 #11
I'm kinda partial to "I don't care if it rains and freezes Atticus Aug 2020 #17
Was that in Cool Hand Luke, too?! Hekate Aug 2020 #21
Yup. Luke sang it sitting on a bunk just after finding out his mom had died. I think he was Atticus Aug 2020 #22
I like "Callin' it your job don't make it right, boss." Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #28
A good choice. Hard to select just a couple "favorites" from that movie. nt Atticus Aug 2020 #31
Agree! FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #35
... FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #34
"50 eggs in a hour" PSPS Aug 2020 #18
It works not help flyingfysh Aug 2020 #40
I cannot, but you can bet your sweet bippy that if YOU had locked that mailbox shut, Volaris Aug 2020 #41
Holy Effin' SHIT!!! progressive nobody Aug 2020 #4
Post Offices in high crime areas have been doing that for years after last pickup. Hoyt Aug 2020 #5
Burbank is high crime? dsc Aug 2020 #6
Solid middle class. tinrobot Aug 2020 #8
Do we have to be as gullible as GOPers. Here's a photo from 2016. Hoyt Aug 2020 #13
Thank you! That's a relief! renate Aug 2020 #16
I totally agree, but we ought to Fact Check too. Hoyt Aug 2020 #20
+1 chowder66 Aug 2020 #33
It's all part of the plan... not_the_one Aug 2020 #38
Well, I just read a NYT article saying if the post office slows things down, it'll hurt GOPers more Hoyt Aug 2020 #42
It is of they voted for clinton. Volaris Aug 2020 #43
Photo looks like daytime to me. nt. druidity33 Aug 2020 #10
Last pickup at 5:00 PM. Hoyt Aug 2020 #12
long shadows. check the shadows. demigoddess Aug 2020 #25
And it's sunday Beaverhausen Aug 2020 #46
Interesting. I've never seen that and there's quite a bit of crime near the Kroger Plaza ecstatic Aug 2020 #15
I suspect smart Post Office thieves are more likely to go for stuff in Hollywood. Hoyt Aug 2020 #23
OK. The twitter user needs to check again tomorrow during business hours ecstatic Aug 2020 #24
That's a good idea. Believe me, I understand the paranoia and distrust. Hoyt Aug 2020 #26
I'll vouch for this catchnrelease Aug 2020 #29
They say they aren't destroying shanti Aug 2020 #14
OFGAWD SAKE.......SERIOUSLY??? a kennedy Aug 2020 #19
RWers bring an AK 47 to a gunfight... DSandra Aug 2020 #36
Speak for yourself. ehrnst Aug 2020 #47
We are always on the defensive, if we were a well run party... DSandra Aug 2020 #50
Well, there is one guy... ehrnst Aug 2020 #51
Do they know appalachiablue Aug 2020 #27
Nancy needs to declare this idiot insane & take over running our country ASAP! Illumination Aug 2020 #30
Right, because the constitution totally gives that power to the Speaker of the House. ehrnst Aug 2020 #48
OMG Ehrnst! Just found out they're going to drill iin the Artic!!!!!! I'm so upset! Illumination Aug 2020 #49
I take it you were being facetious? ehrnst Aug 2020 #52
Hello ehrnst. Not joking @ all! Just upset about more of Trump's "shenanigans" & destroying our Illumination Aug 2020 #53
Why are postal employees following these orders? Pepsidog Aug 2020 #32
Many drop boxes you can't put a package in anymore bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #37
Good points. We definitely need to monitor the pick up times as well ecstatic Aug 2020 #39
Those red blockades on the drop boxes could use some "Make America Great Again" stickers Blue Owl Aug 2020 #44
WTF!!! I don't like seeing the 'junked mail sorting machine' photo either... liberalla Aug 2020 #45
Trump will say DFW Aug 2020 #54

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
3. I possess a large bolt cutter. Can anyone tell me what the penalty would be for
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:29 PM
Aug 2020

"removing an impediment intentionally installed as an attempt to delay or halt properly stamped US mail"?

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
7. You suddenly reminded me of Cool Hand Luke cutting the heads off parking meters...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:42 PM
Aug 2020

Can you eat a hundred eggs?

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
17. I'm kinda partial to "I don't care if it rains and freezes
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:02 PM
Aug 2020

Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car"

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
21. Was that in Cool Hand Luke, too?!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:08 PM
Aug 2020

I don’t care if I’m a winner or loser
Long as I got my gold mezzuzah...

Goin’ 90 it ain’t scary
Long as I got the Virgin Mary
Assurin’ me that I won’t go to Hell ...


Atticus

(15,124 posts)
22. Yup. Luke sang it sitting on a bunk just after finding out his mom had died. I think he was
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:12 PM
Aug 2020

strumming a makeshift guitar or banjo.

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
28. I like "Callin' it your job don't make it right, boss."
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:35 PM
Aug 2020

as the guard was putting him in the box for the night and being apologetic about it.

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
41. I cannot, but you can bet your sweet bippy that if YOU had locked that mailbox shut,
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:53 PM
Aug 2020

That bippy would get itself spanked with a federal felony charge. Screwing around with Constitutionally mandated post routes is one of the oldest national crimes on the books, right?

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. Thank you! That's a relief!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:00 PM
Aug 2020

But we do have good reason to suspect shenanigans, unlike conspiracy theorists.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
38. It's all part of the plan...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:29 PM
Aug 2020

We caught them, they are saying they will remove no more drop boxes (I don't believe them), so the lock them up. No mention about putting the ones already removed, BACK. The sorters have already faded. Are THEY going to be put back? (It is really hard to put back one that has been destroyed, and they won't be bothered to pull the ones out that are still in the dumpster...)

When questioned about the locks, they will say it is only done after dark to keep people from stealing mail (when it has never been a problem before in that area). Aren't all these problem areas where democrats are predominate?

It gives them justification, and STILL accomplishes EXACTLY what they set out to do.

Meanwhile, the dems are "considering" coming back from recess (when everything is now being done virtually) to issue some sternly worded letters and a threat of subpoenas. While simultaneously the republican senators really don't give a shit, and can't be made to do anything.

And how many days is it until the election?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
42. Well, I just read a NYT article saying if the post office slows things down, it'll hurt GOPers more
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:56 PM
Aug 2020

than Democrats.

Maybe we ought to be encouraging that. Most states that we need have Ballot Drop Boxes. GOPers can use the "crippled" PO, while we take our ballots to the drop boxes, or at least request ballots early and mail them back immediately.


"Which Party Would Benefit Most From Voting by Mail?

"It’s Complicated -- Conventional wisdom has been that Democrats are more likely to benefit from voting by mail. But that’s not what research has shown."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/us/vote-by-mail-coronavirus.html

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
43. It is of they voted for clinton.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:56 PM
Aug 2020

Dear Leader will brook no deviation from the requirement of his worship.

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
15. Interesting. I've never seen that and there's quite a bit of crime near the Kroger Plaza
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:59 PM
Aug 2020

which contains my nearest USPS mail/drop box. I think I'll drop by tonight to see if the box is even there anymore.

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
24. OK. The twitter user needs to check again tomorrow during business hours
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:22 PM
Aug 2020

and update everyone on the situation. It's possible some of us are becoming too paranoid, but it could be a brilliant strategy for the GOP, as it would be hard for people to prove to others that it's happening for the wrong reasons. Any locked boxes that were outed on social media could be opened back up on a case by case basis. That would take tremendous organization though... so hopefully you're right and there is nothing nefarious going on.

catchnrelease

(1,942 posts)
29. I'll vouch for this
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:36 PM
Aug 2020

I'm in the East Long Beach/Lakewood area (very middle class, not high crime, altho' it's been getting worse) and we have had the mailboxes in our neighborhoods and at the actual PO changed to this kind of system. For at least a couple of years there have been increasing problems with people stealing mail out of the old style mailboxes--the kind with either drive up chutes or the pull open door at the top. You would to to put mail in either one and the entire openings would be full of sticky 'goop'. What was explained to us that complained, was that thieves would use wire, or other long implements with sticky substances on them, and essentially, fish for mail. That was the chute style. For the pull down door style, the sticky stuff would catch envelopes that were just tossed in and the person didn't check. So the mail piece would not fall down, but stick inside the door area.

So, now our outside boxes have either been removed or replaced with the kind in the photos that lock--yes at 5pm, or ones that have just a narrow slot that even has kind of a lip on it. And you really have to bend down and look to see that you are getting the letter into the slot. It's a little bit inconvenient, but at least it should deter theft. And no more getting gunk all over your hands when you went to mail a letter!

I do believe the PMGeneral is trying to screw over the USPS, but in this case I don't think these changes have anything to do with elections or voting, etc.

shanti

(21,672 posts)
14. They say they aren't destroying
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:56 PM
Aug 2020

the sorting machines, but leaving them out in the elements WILL destroy them! MFers!

a kennedy

(29,467 posts)
19. OFGAWD SAKE.......SERIOUSLY???
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:07 PM
Aug 2020

What the hell else can they do to make sure the orange piece of shit gets in AGAIN.

DSandra

(999 posts)
36. RWers bring an AK 47 to a gunfight...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:04 PM
Aug 2020

What do we bring?

We have to learn how power works and how to get power, otherwise we will be steamrolled like this.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
47. Speak for yourself.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:33 AM - Edit history (3)

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/16/903056927/pelosi-calls-back-lawmakers-to-vote-on-postal-service

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-democrats-post-office-campaign/2020/08/14/390f8b82-de4d-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

Biden Slams Trump's New Remarks on Post Office






So... what would Democrats 'bringing an AK47' to the fight actually mean specifically?

You continue to bash them as "weak" or "cowardly" or "do nothing" on thread after thread, yet won't say what you expect them to do that they are not.

That's not 'dissent,' just carping and sniping at Democrats and leadership, again and again and again. There are other places where Democrat bashing is welcomed, and you would be much happier there than on Democratic Underground.

You seem so familiar, though... even in the short time you've been on DU. You remind me of someone who hasn't posted here in a while.

DSandra

(999 posts)
50. We are always on the defensive, if we were a well run party...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:39 PM
Aug 2020

They would be on the defensive at least half of the time. They creamed us in 2010, and used the census year to redistribute many states to make it very hard for us to regain the house. They get to name our policies instead of us, like Obamacare. They make us look like a bunch of uptight nerds, which isn’t a bad thing but in campaigns for a very powerful role, does matter to many. They have people like Frank Luntz, and past ones like Karl rove and Lee Atwater. I guess we had David Plouffe and David Axelrod, but where were they after 2012?

They keep on getting ahead of us, shows how we have not been playing the game as we should.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
51. Well, there is one guy...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:44 PM
Aug 2020

He was a partner of Paul Manafort's and got Victor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine.

Maybe that's the kind of consultant you think that can teach the "poorly run" Democratic party how to "play the game as we should," and "get ahead like the GOP does?"

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
52. I take it you were being facetious?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:51 PM
Aug 2020

My apologies - I've been seeing posts like this that are serious as fuck. No irony, and literally that complete lack of understanding of what Pelosi can and cannot do as Speaker, as though she has a magic wand she's hiding away somewhere...

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
53. Hello ehrnst. Not joking @ all! Just upset about more of Trump's "shenanigans" & destroying our
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:58 PM
Aug 2020

environment (Arctic, Grand Canyon, etc) This discussion doesn't have to do with Nancy. However we can make it about her also if you'd like...Understand what you're getting at. For the record I think she's doing a great job (under the circumstances) Respect & admire her. She's an outstanding person. Would love to see her take over the reins...

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
37. Many drop boxes you can't put a package in anymore
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:15 PM
Aug 2020

Only open about 3/4". THen they replaced some with older style with shutes on the front. They're nice.

But yes, just stating they won't remove them, they didn't say they'd pickup the mail, or how often, or will process it quickly. They are just playing games with the public, and there's somebody directing this, and I'd bet paying dearly to make it happen.

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
39. Good points. We definitely need to monitor the pick up times as well
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:36 PM
Aug 2020

...somehow. It's a lot to keep up with!! Maybe Congress can pass something requiring that residents of an area be notified of any changes to pick up times, "lock" times, etc. Of course, it might take months to receive such notice.

Blue Owl

(49,934 posts)
44. Those red blockades on the drop boxes could use some "Make America Great Again" stickers
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:39 PM
Aug 2020

Just sayin'...

liberalla

(9,166 posts)
45. WTF!!! I don't like seeing the 'junked mail sorting machine' photo either...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:51 PM
Aug 2020

I am surprised that they're so bad at the sabotage of the USPS. GOP is low down dirty and corrupt through and through... but they've been much better at hiding their dastardly deeds in the past. It all seems more sloppy, clumsy and obvious this time.

I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised.

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