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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 06:51 AM Aug 2020

De joy appearing before the House on Monday

He knows he's in deep trouble , and if he lies he faces more charges , so will he admit this was ordered by trump to hurt the delivery of mail, or lie more about it and when the investigation uncovers more, and more about his profiting from doing what he's done will also be exposed more. Because of this I think trumps turnaround on doing this shows trump knows he's in trouble for it too, and trying to drop it and onto direct orders to interfere with the election. Their conspiring to do this is a crime, and De joy will face time in prison if he doesn't fess up, because it will be uncovered, so watch how long it takes trump to threaten him and members in the House for this, and try to prevent him from going before them Monday. Is De joy willing to go to prison for trump , I doubt it, and will talk. In Jan. De joy could also be unprotected . trump will do something to distract from this issue , very soon. Stocking up on popcorn for Mondays hearing, especially learning Rep. Katie porter will be giving him questions, and wish she was given a lot more time as effective as she is at it.

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De joy appearing before the House on Monday (Original Post) duforsure Aug 2020 OP
"On the advise of my lawyer, safeinOhio Aug 2020 #1
Maybe this is who his mystery pardon person is...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2020 #2
I think he has to be convicted first duforsure Aug 2020 #3
Nixon comes to mind aeromanKC Aug 2020 #5
That's likely why trump is now doing an about face , and watch how quickly he promotes duforsure Aug 2020 #6
No...a President can pardon for all federal crimes even if there is no indictment DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #8
Ok , thanks didn't know that. duforsure Aug 2020 #9
I believe that's correct DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #10
After he's ousted can he still claim executive privilege? duforsure Aug 2020 #12
Good Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #4
trump will soon start in attacking De joy duforsure Aug 2020 #7
"Executive privilege" blueinredohio Aug 2020 #11

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. I think he has to be convicted first
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:05 AM
Aug 2020

Before a pardon can be issued. He may try doing it anyway, and one for the guy Snowden will happen to encourage others to do the same thing.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
5. Nixon comes to mind
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:15 AM
Aug 2020

However, in this case both Trump and Dejoy face State charges as well as Federal. They done jumped the shark but good on this one.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. That's likely why trump is now doing an about face , and watch how quickly he promotes
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:20 AM
Aug 2020

He wants a USPS funding bill passed for PR, then later obstruct it being used.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
8. No...a President can pardon for all federal crimes even if there is no indictment
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:34 AM
Aug 2020

That's what Ford did to Richard Nixon in September 1974.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
10. I believe that's correct
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 08:10 AM
Aug 2020

Since there is no threat of federal prosecution, there is no Fifth Amendment self-incrimination issue. However, there could be state crime issues or other privileges like attorney/client or executive privilege that one could use to avoid testifying.

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