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AZ8theist

(5,410 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:02 PM Aug 2020

Thomas Paine EXACTLY described Trump 244 years ago.

The insight of Americas forefathers never ceases to amaze me. (despite their faults):

“Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.”
― Thomas Paine, Common Sense

"When they succeed to the government are frequently the most IGNORANT and UNFIT of any...."

I couldn't have expressed it better myself.

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Thomas Paine EXACTLY described Trump 244 years ago. (Original Post) AZ8theist Aug 2020 OP
Best post on DU in the past 3.75 years!!! This should go viral! BComplex Aug 2020 #1
Wow! Thanks!! AZ8theist Aug 2020 #2
Common Sense is a must read. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #3
Agree malaise Aug 2020 #4
One of my favorite books. Solomon Aug 2020 #38
K&R Docreed2003 Aug 2020 #5
Bullseye! empedocles Aug 2020 #6
The trump type does not seem to have 'evolved' at all empedocles Aug 2020 #7
A lot of our problems stem from Trump Types. StClone Aug 2020 #12
That's very nice. warmfeet Aug 2020 #8
A modest proposal.... paleotn Aug 2020 #17
Awesome cigar cutter! Baked Potato Aug 2020 #28
Kathy Griffin is that you??? shelshaw Aug 2020 #32
Meets the crimes, no? paleotn Aug 2020 #36
Proposal accepted. warmfeet Aug 2020 #37
Learned men of the age studied thousands of years of history bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #9
You hit the nail on the head, IMO -- and why we're lost today. yonder Aug 2020 #13
It was underway with movies, but liftoff was the calculator bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #22
I first learned advanced math on a slide rule.. AZ8theist Aug 2020 #30
Well said! scarletwoman Aug 2020 #16
I just moved to a new home. The first few nights we had electricity and water, but no television, no fwvinson Aug 2020 #27
++ Common Sense , Paine . Thank you for a little bit of it tonight ! lunasun Aug 2020 #10
thanks for this - my favorite revolutionary & founder bringthePaine Aug 2020 #11
K&R. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #14
Old Tom is spot on again.... paleotn Aug 2020 #15
"When they succeed to the government are frequently the most IGNORANT and UNFIT of any...." mitch96 Aug 2020 #18
I like what he was thinking all those years ago. wendyb-NC Aug 2020 #19
Never truer than now. Great post. dameatball Aug 2020 #20
Written From Experience erpowers Aug 2020 #21
If Elizabeth Warren or HRC were to read that tonight. Monster Buzz. nt oasis Aug 2020 #23
Read my footer. n/t Tommymac Aug 2020 #24
Hence, Pence... czarjak Aug 2020 #25
Great find. Thank you. GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #26
Agreed! Kicking it back up to the top. nt crickets Aug 2020 #29
I'd be wary of electing a business person again. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #31
Bookmarking MUST for me. Much obliged for your post, AZ8theist! MFGsunny Aug 2020 #33
You are MOST Welcome!! AZ8theist Aug 2020 #34
He remains one of the masters of English political rhetoric: struggle4progress Aug 2020 #35
Common Sense, for those who want to read it. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #39

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
3. Common Sense is a must read.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:15 PM
Aug 2020

Thomas Paine was a true thinker and revolutionary.

His writings were very important at that time and should be just as important today.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
9. Learned men of the age studied thousands of years of history
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:49 PM
Aug 2020

There was no golf, sports, motorcars, movies. There was nothing to do but drink, read, discuss. It's a testament to them, and to the recurring patterns of human organization in history, though different ages use different terminology to describe similar phenomena.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
13. You hit the nail on the head, IMO -- and why we're lost today.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:14 PM
Aug 2020

There are too many easily accessed pleasures that require little to no thinking OR discussion.

We're trapped in a modern maze of our own ill-thought construction while the pathway to freedom, though there, becomes increasingly difficult to discover.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
22. It was underway with movies, but liftoff was the calculator
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:59 PM
Aug 2020

For me anyway. I remember learning to use a slide rule. You really had to think. Suddenly, calculators were there. You don't even have to know how to add anything nowadays. Just push buttons.

AZ8theist

(5,410 posts)
30. I first learned advanced math on a slide rule..
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:46 PM
Aug 2020

The engineers who sent men the the moon used slide rules.
You are correct. It's all push button now.

Never ceases to amaze me that at places like McDonalds, in some areas, the cash register has PICTURES of menu items, not numbers.
The dumbing down of America is a Reich Wing feature of policy, not a bug. Keep the rubes stupid, and you can rape the treasury.

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
27. I just moved to a new home. The first few nights we had electricity and water, but no television, no
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:52 PM
Aug 2020

internet, no phone service. We moved to a very beautiful and rural area. We did talk and laughed more those 4 nights than anytime. I guess camping is the same. It was real pleasant.

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
18. "When they succeed to the government are frequently the most IGNORANT and UNFIT of any...."
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

It's like deja vu all over again!!
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wendyb-NC

(3,304 posts)
19. I like what he was thinking all those years ago.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

He was right on target, describing the entity that occupies the oval office. His words are timeless and so applicable to the current situation.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
21. Written From Experience
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:56 PM
Aug 2020

I assume that was written based on his experience living in the time of King George III.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
31. I'd be wary of electing a business person again.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:55 PM
Aug 2020

Trump is among the absolute worst, of course, because he's not even intelligent or educated.

Yet many of them are basically tyrants because it's not like they're voted into power or can be voted out. I mean, by the "common people" working under them.

And after living that way for years, they can get accustomed to it.

struggle4progress

(118,234 posts)
35. He remains one of the masters of English political rhetoric:
Thu Aug 20, 2020, 03:42 PM
Aug 2020
England, since the conquest, hath known some few good monarchs, but groaned beneath a much larger number of bad ones; yet no man in his senses can say that their claim under William the Conqueror is a very honourable one. A French bastard landing with an armed banditti, and establishing himself king of England against the consent of the natives, is in plain terms a very paltry rascally original. It certainly hath no divinity in it. However, it is needless to spend much time in exposing the folly of hereditary right; if there are any so weak as to believe it, let them promiscuously worship the ass and lion, and welcome. I shall neither copy their humility, nor disturb their devotion.
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