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Thu Aug 20, 2020, 09:55 AM

So, gaming out the Bannon arrest.....

will Barr demand an expedited prosecution so Trump can pardon him before he's out of office?

Given how Trump has undermined the DOJ on prior prosecutions, I'd think that they will be slow walking the prosecution so that Trump can't pardon him.

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Reply So, gaming out the Bannon arrest..... (Original post)
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 OP
brooklynite Aug 2020 #1
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #4
Sanity Claws Aug 2020 #20
Calista241 Aug 2020 #21
tetedur Aug 2020 #22
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #24
CanonRay Aug 2020 #23
Laelth Aug 2020 #2
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #6
Laelth Aug 2020 #10
SoonerPride Aug 2020 #3
Laelth Aug 2020 #9
PTWB Aug 2020 #5
SheltieLover Aug 2020 #7
Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2020 #25
SheltieLover Aug 2020 #29
Lonesome Beet Aug 2020 #8
SheltieLover Aug 2020 #11
OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #14
underpants Aug 2020 #12
MFGsunny Aug 2020 #16
Gothmog Aug 2020 #13
Thomas Hurt Aug 2020 #19
Thomas Hurt Aug 2020 #15
struggle4progress Aug 2020 #17
bluedigger Aug 2020 #18
fleur-de-lisa Aug 2020 #26
Nitram Aug 2020 #27
C_U_L8R Aug 2020 #28

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 09:56 AM

1. Trump can pardon him but today

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:00 AM

4. Not sure I understand your response....

If no conviction before the 1/20/21, how can he pardon?

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:14 AM

20. Conviction is not needed

Remember Ford pardoned Nixon without any conviction

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:14 AM

21. You don't have to be convicted to get a pardon.

The President can pardon anyone of a federal crime at any time; before, during, or after legal any legal proceedings.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:15 AM

22. Casper Weinberger was pardoned by G.H.W. Bush before his trial.

Weinberger was indicted on five felony charges related to the Iran-contra affair, including accusations that he had lied to Congress and obstructed Government investigations.

William Barr was Attorney General in 1992.

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Response to tetedur (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:21 AM

24. OK, yeah, I get it now.

So, I guess this will be a done deal. Nothing to sweat, Steve.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:17 AM

23. No conviction necessary

A federal pardon can be issued prior to the start of a legal case or inquiry, prior to any indictments being issued, for unspecified offenses, and prior to or after a conviction for a federal crime.[13] President Gerald Ford's broad federal pardon of former president Richard M. Nixon in 1974 for "all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974" is a notable example of a fixed-period federal pardon that came prior to any indictments being issued and that covered unspecified federal offenses that may or may not have been committed."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 09:59 AM

2. I agree. They will slow-walk it.

They will try to bury it until after the election. In exchange for his silence, a pardon will be granted on January 19 (or thereabouts).

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

6. Only if there is a conviction before 1/19/21.....

I doubt the case will move that quickly.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

10. As others have noted, a conviction is not required. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 09:59 AM

3. Trump on Bannon: "I hardly knew the guy. He ws some low level coffee getter, I heard. I don't know."

This is what I'm assuming he will tweet.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

9. Almost certainly. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:00 AM

5. Trump could pardon him today.

Thereís no requirement that Bannon be convicted first.

That said, why would he? Havenít Bannon and Trump been enemies for a while?

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

7. Are these state crimes? 🤞

Hoping.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:28 AM

25. So far it looks like federal but...

...since money was laundered through their non-profits and shell corps, depending on how/where they were set up it seems like state charges could follow.

I'm not a lawyer or CPA...

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:40 AM

29. Thank you

I'm hoping non pardonable! 🤞🤞🤞

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

8. Just waiting for all those fleeced donors

 

to flock to Bannon's defense. Rubes.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

11. Can't wait to hear donor responses

Must have been Hillary's emails, right?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:09 AM

14. Here's one.....

To: gcparent
I donated $100. I guess theyíll be coming to arrest me next.


14 posted on 8/20/2020, 9:54:00 AM by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)

This is from a rube at FreeRepublic. These people are made to be swindled. You'd think he'd be demanding his $100 back, but he seems OK with giving it to support Bannon's lifestyle.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

12. Bannon won't talk unless it turns out Barr and Trump knew about this

Bannon will end up with a fine and legal fees.

Now IF it turns out that Barr (Trump) knew about this coming and didnít slow it down or try to squash it THEN we could have something. Bannon and Trump are both vindictive shits and between the two Iíd put my money on Bannon. Heís way more intelligent than Trump and heís way more conniving too.

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Response to underpants (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

16. + 1000 n/t

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:09 AM

13. Does this mean that Bannon will not be speaking at the RNC next week?

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:11 AM

19. On the contrary, just another martyr of the dreaded, world-wide, all powerful Deep State.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

15. I guess the Pig and Fat Himmler's move to quash prosecutions of the Pig's lackeys...

by swapping out US attorneys didn't work...

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

17. 'Build the Wall' was as phony as Trump University and the Trump Foundation "charity"

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

18. I think it depends how much they need his vote.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:29 AM

26. Don't worry. Once Dump is gone

Bannon will be among those prosecuted for counter-intelligence operations.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:30 AM

27. I believe Trump can pardon him at any time. The question is, does Trump believe it will benefit him

if he does? He wants to win this election.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2020, 10:30 AM

28. Epsteined

Just saying, Bannon may want to avoid solitary jail cells.
And I don't recommend the tea either.

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