Need some help with RW BS - WARNING!

[NashvilleLefty]

Before you open this site, be sure to don your HAZMAT suit and make sure it's sealed tight!

A Liberal friend of mine sent me this link that some of his Conservative "friends" had been circulating and insisting that he read. it's a relatively new article, so the major media haven't had much time to debunk it. "Chapter" [page] 4 pissed me off so much, that I had trouble being objective about the rest (which should tell you something right there).

The first Red Flag is that there is no attribution - it says something if you're not even willing to put your name on something.

But, without further ado, here is the article - although I warned you about the HAZMAT suit (I felt so dirty after reading it):

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama#.UFsoFI0iZnM

BTW, I was particularly pissed off by the way they tried to paint a Bishop who devoted his life to providing decent, affordable housing to poor people as a "slumlord". His Obit praising his efforts was done by the University of Chicago. Yeah, he was a really bad guy that Obama should never have been associated with. And, yes, that was very angry sarcasm.

Now, the fact that there is no attribution whatsoever is a HUGE red flag. The article is based on personal interviews, and you're not even going to acknowledge those who conducted the interviews? No attempt at disclaimer?

I have looked up the site on Sourcewatch, and they are RW all the way. Which is probably why my friend's RW associates read it.

I have sent my responses to my Liberal friend to try and help him make a reply. But I would greatly appreciate any links that directly dispute anything mentioned in this article. I would especially love any person quoted being taken out of context, etc.

[JohnnyRingo]

1. It's been too good a week to read Tea Party porn.

I almost don't care what twisted political fantasy they come up with next, they're grasping at straws right now.

The cacophony of right wing heads exploding is as joyful to my spirits as the fireworks on a balmy July fourth's eve. It's a sound that pleases my senses like the aroma of warm butter when a bag of microwave popcorn reaches full staccato, and I'm not going to chug a glass of vinegar right now.

Try reposting around Hallowe'en.

[jberryhill]

2. That BS is beyond help

[Honeycombe8]

3. I read just the first part. I didn't see anything there...

to indicate he lived a live of prosperity and money, as the intro leads the reader to believe. The facts presented indicated he did indeed have a middle class existence. His grams was a VP at a bank. Banks have millions of VPs. They're a dime a dozen. And his gramps was in sales. Middle class, for sure. He went to a private school for a while not because they had money, but as the facts in the story say, because his gramps' boss was an alumnis and able to get him in, ALTHOUGH Obama qualified for a scholarship. Either way, he didn't have the money to buy his way in.

The story even cites Obama's books for authority for some of those facts, verifying that Obama has stated these facts himself.

I mean, you have to be looking for something in that story to find it. I see nothing wrong it, no matter how you look at it.

In the end, none of this matters, does it? He's written two books about himself. He answers questions about his past directly. There have been countless interviews of everyone who has ever known him. He's obtained and provided both the short form and long form of his birth certificate, as well as an affidavit from the Hawaii official attesting to the authenticity of the long form birth certificate. This has been without a doubt the MOST investigated President we've ever had. And nothing wrong of significance has been found. No big lies. No falsifying of, say, TAX RETURNS. No hiding the fact that he experimented with cocaine.

Obama is WYSIWYG. What you see, well, that's what you get. It sure looks like he's gonna win another four years. I hope so. WE deserve it.

[CitizenPatriot]

4. This is an age old trick

to get liberals to spend all of their time debunking lies.

It's actually a form of a fallacy -- state the lie and demand the other prove it wrong.

So, instead of bothering with that, I'd ask the person shoving it my face what is the point of this article? If the point is that Obama was rich and privileged (which of course isn't true), is that supposed to make what Romney said and how out of touch he is okay?

Because that is the point. They believe the problem is Romney's money not his lack of empathy. The problem is not his money. The problem is his policies that only help the rich like him.

And that kills their entire point. It's in Obama's policies that help the poor and middle class.

[JaneyVee]

5. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

ESPECIALLY one that won't take credit.

[NashvilleLefty]

6. You and I know that,

and that was the first Red Flag with me on this article.

But RW don't care as long as it supports their case - in this case that Obama is bringing questionable "Chicago Politics" to Washington.

Well, I guess that's the hard part - unless you actually look at his RECORD!

And, maybe that's the attack we should use. Except that many RW sources claim that Obama is only waiting until his last election to take our guns, put all Conservatives in Labor Camps, etc, etc.

This is obvious BS, but how do we convince the RW that it's RW bullshit?

I know it will be hard, since the charges are pretty vague. But if you can find any direct contradictions I would be happy to relate them.

[ornotna]

7. I'm going to be honest

I didn't click the link and read it. I don't need to. You said - "This is obvious BS, but how do we convince the RW that it's RW bullshit? "

Stop right here, you're not going to change their minds. They are hopeless, move on.

[retrogal]

8. Honestly...

why would your liberal friend even want to make a reply to that site? Have your friend force his 'friends' to read a liberal site.

No one is going to convince anyone anything over the internet. It isn't worth putting a hazmat suit on to read ramblings of others we don't agree with. I just find it sad you and your friend are putting so much energy on this. Who really cares what they are saying on that site??