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A rolling average.
POLL...................................DATE ........VOTERS..MOE............OB..ROM..............RESULTS
RCP Average........................9/11 - 9/20.....--...........--.............48.6..44.7............[font color=blue]Obama +3.9[font color=black]
Rasmussen Tracking.............9/18 - 9/20 1500 LV 3............46 45..........[font color=blue]Obama +1[font color=black]
National Journal...................9/15 - 9/19 1055 LV 3............50 43..........[font color=blue]Obama +7[font color=black]
Gallup Tracking....................9/14 - 9/20 3050 RV 2............47 47..........Tie
Associated Press/GfK............9/13 - 9/17 807 LV 4.3.........47 46..........[font color=blue]Obama +1[font color=black]
Reason-Rupe.......................9/13 - 9/17 787 LV 4.3.........52 45..........[font color=blue]Obama +7[font color=black]
Hartford Courant/UConn........9/11 - 9/18 1186 LV 3............46 43.........[font color=blue].Obama +3[font color=black]
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun.9/13 - 9/16 1344 LV 2.7.........48 45..........[font color=blue]Obama +3[font color=black]
Pew Research.......................9/12 - 9/16 2268 LV 2.4.........51 43..........[font color=blue]Obama +8[font color=black]
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl..........9/12 - 9/16 736 LV 3.6.........50 45..........[font color=blue]Obama +5[font color=black]
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Schwing!
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)leading in any polls, except some state polls, but those are getting slimmer.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,911 posts)by becoming the perpetual outlier. I'm far from an expert in polling methodology, but from my perspective, they're doing it wrong.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)My understanding is that likely voter polling is more reflective of election results. Which makes sense.
Still, Obama has been holding steady at 46 or 47 for many months. Can't seem to break 50 except for the convention bounce.
Romney, OTOH, keeps going up and down a couple of points. (In June Romney was 47, then was 45, 45 again, then 46, then 47, then 43, then 47.)
It is Romney going up and down that affects who is on top, for the most part. It's not Obama dropping.
I'd like to see Obama pop up on that poll, though.
ananda
(28,840 posts).. and Obama leads by over 5 points.
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)From FR about forty minutes ago -
"The mainstream media are rigging the polls. No headliner there, but just how bad is it? It could mean that Romney has as much as a double-digit lead of 54-44 in Realityville"
That's some serious denial.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I really dont see any point in doing it at this stage. It should all be state by state.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Bush won 51% to 48% approximately.
The NBC/WSJ polls at end:
September (Sept.17-19): Bush 48%, Kerry 45%, Nader 2%
Mid October (Oct.16-18): Bush 48%, Kerry 46%, Nader 2%
Late October (Oct.29-31): Bush 48%, Kerry 47%, Nader 1%
Every picture tells a story, I think.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)The larger the popular vote advantage gets the less likely the pop vote and the EC vote will diverge.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)A plus 2 nationally will usually translate to a bump on the state level, too.
doc03
(35,300 posts)and the same day I will hear a report that says it's a virtual dead heat, I don't know what to believe.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's a real D'oh thing. Which one is running the perfect campaign and which one is chewing his foot?
And who do you think the vast majority of American people prefer as President?
Like Clinton says, it's Arithmetic.
edited to correct sentence
doc03
(35,300 posts)voters are registered Democrats. Yet on every other lawn or vehicle there is a sign saying "Stop the War on Coal, Fire Obama or a NRA sticker. The truth is that is just their excuse for not voting for a black man. It's kind of hard to judge the election when you are surrounded by Republicans, racist Democrats.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That gives you a fairly accurate picture of the nation's view of things. Pay more attention to "likely" voters than registered voters, many of whom will not vote.
If the person saying it's a dead heat identifies only one poll, that's the one who's losing.
But it is close. No doubt about it.
That's why I try to get the full picture. Look at realclearpolitics. It gives results of most of the polls, both nationally AND by state. AND gives an electoral vote prediction, based on the polls. AND gives the gambling odds of who will win. It's stats change daily.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
National: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Ohio: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
Other battleground state polling: (on rt side of upper screen) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
The Electoral Vote predicion currently stands at 247 Obama, 191 Romney. (270 needed to win) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Zorra
(27,670 posts)We not only need to keep the pressure on, we need to turn it up a notch. We're hot right now, and we need to capitalize on the momentum, and never lose it.
Even simple, educated, word of mouth campaigning at every reasonable opportunity that presents itself in our everyday lives helps.
Even if you only get one vote for our side out of it, it's worth it.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Mad_Dem_X
(9,548 posts)I feel like Obama should be way ahead. There are a lot of stupid and misinformed people out there.