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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:00 PM Sep 2012

Bain Capitol buys Craftsman Tools - Good Bye USA made

The Wall st. Out-Source Monkeys are at it again and another American Icon goes to China


Bain Capital Said to Be in Advanced Talks to Acquire Apex Tool

Bain Capital LLC is in advanced talks to buy Apex Tool Group LLC, the maker of Craftsman hand tools that is owned by Danaher Corp. (DHR) and Cooper Industries Plc (CBE), said a person with knowledge of the matter.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-20/bain-capital-said-to-be-in-advanced-talks-to-acquire-apex-tool
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Bain Capitol buys Craftsman Tools - Good Bye USA made (Original Post) FreakinDJ Sep 2012 OP
I was reading someplace, maybe DU, that Craftsman Tools aren't what they used to be. I used to RKP5637 Sep 2012 #1
Yes, there was a thread on that in the past few days. JHB Sep 2012 #2
I just bought a bunch of Craftsman made in USA tools last night FreakinDJ Sep 2012 #3
I know their outdoor power equipment is total crap now. obxhead Sep 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #11
ever since we "Outsourced" our raw materials to China FreakinDJ Sep 2012 #13
For power tools I just get Dewalt or Makita anymore. I've also gotten RKP5637 Sep 2012 #14
No great loss, Craftsman Tools turned to shit a long long time ago 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #4
Every job shipped to China is a great loss FreakinDJ Sep 2012 #5
What really irks me is not only jobs going to China, but RKP5637 Sep 2012 #6
already made in China KT2000 Sep 2012 #7
I just bought USA made Craftsman tools last night FreakinDJ Sep 2012 #8
It sounds like you got the ones!!! RKP5637 Sep 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #10
And we wonder why the Economy is in the Toilet FreakinDJ Sep 2012 #12
look for older tools at garage sales and second-hand stores grasswire Sep 2012 #16
Snap on builds a quality tool still. obxhead Sep 2012 #17
One of the reasons that the shop rate at the local mechanic is $85/hour lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #18
More jobs for China jsr Sep 2012 #19

RKP5637

(67,105 posts)
1. I was reading someplace, maybe DU, that Craftsman Tools aren't what they used to be. I used to
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

buy Craftsman Tools all the time when I was more active working on things. They were rugged and had the lifetime guarantee.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
2. Yes, there was a thread on that in the past few days.
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:08 PM
Sep 2012

Do a search or look back through recent posts, you'll find it.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
3. I just bought a bunch of Craftsman made in USA tools last night
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

The Industrial Series Craftsman Tools which are even better then the ones the sell in the Sears stores and are all made in USA

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
9. I know their outdoor power equipment is total crap now.
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

I won't ever by another gas powered Craftsman tool.

As for their tools now, you have to be careful. They don't necessarily have a lifetime warranty. Not sure who bought what, but you can also get Craftsman tools in Kmart as well now.

I generally find that the overall quality has gone in the crapper. returned a ratchet a few months ago. I've used it three times and it's already falling apart again.

Response to obxhead (Reply #9)

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
13. ever since we "Outsourced" our raw materials to China
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

and thanks to Wall st. for manipulating the price of raw materials in the USA. The Chinese can produce the part cheaper then our american manufactures can buy the raw materials to manufacture the part.

Wall St. did for metals the same thing they did to the cost of a barrel of oil but no body said nothing about it because the average american citizen doesn't go buying several tons of Aluminum ingots every day

RKP5637

(67,105 posts)
14. For power tools I just get Dewalt or Makita anymore. I've also gotten
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:37 PM
Sep 2012

a couple of Ryobi power tools for limited use and they were great, but that's a few years back. I did buy a craftsman hammer drill, large one, about 12 years ago and it's been great. Growing up I always bought Craftsman, they were legendary. I haven't been buying many tools anymore, I have enough to fill my garage and part of my basement. Now I've been trying to downsize wondering why did I ever by this. LOL

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
4. No great loss, Craftsman Tools turned to shit a long long time ago
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:11 PM
Sep 2012

They are really bottom basement junk now days for the most part - and that description covers any and all of their power tools, which are about the worst of the worst.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
5. Every job shipped to China is a great loss
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:19 PM
Sep 2012

unless of course you prefer the economic state we are currently in

RKP5637

(67,105 posts)
6. What really irks me is not only jobs going to China, but
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:27 PM
Sep 2012

the crap we get from China. The Chinese know how to make quality products, but what I've heard is the US buyers(corps.) insist on such low cost items, that the only thing they can supply is cheap crap. So, we get hit both ways by the corporate hoodlums, jobs shipped off shore and also crap shipped here.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
7. already made in China
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

Danaher is a holding company that does the same thing as private equity firms such as Bain.
They have purchased lots of companies and sent the work to China.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
8. I just bought USA made Craftsman tools last night
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

yes the China made stuff is already on the shelves in Canada

Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
12. And we wonder why the Economy is in the Toilet
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:21 PM
Sep 2012

we can't just form a huge circle and "Service" each other

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. look for older tools at garage sales and second-hand stores
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:59 PM
Sep 2012

I guess that will be the smart thing to do now.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
18. One of the reasons that the shop rate at the local mechanic is $85/hour
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 01:23 PM
Sep 2012

Snap on is ridiculously overpriced. Craftsman hand tools were good USA made tools for a pretty fair price.

Crap. Fuck Bain.

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