Can we please retire one of the biggest right wing Myths??

[Playinghardball]

[Qutzupalotl]

1. Truth. K&R

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

2. I still hear this on almost a daily basis

The hosts of political talk shows never seem to react. Maybe they should each be mailed a footnoted brief with attached exhibits, special delivery.

[mwb970]

24. Right-wingers say this EVERY DAY on cnn.com and elsewhere.

Conservatives are very dim. Once they get an idea into their heads there's no shifting it.

[patrice]

32. They are wrong. Here's the analysis:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[mwb970]

37. I'm tired of telling them this.

They come back on the next day saying the same thing. It's as if their heads were concrete.

[LongTomH]

47. Refute their argument......and they just come back and repeat it!

That's been their debating 'style' for years. It's the big lie technique; make the lie big enough and just keep repeating it!

[The Doctor.]

49. "You now have the facts. If you forget them and repeat this line of bullshit again,

I'm going to slap you across the face."

I haven't tried this one yet, but it might have a better chance of getting it across to them.

[nolabear]

3. Bears frequent repeating.

[ashling]

35. Bears repeating ... ranting, and paraphrasing

"Democrats only had a real majority for 24 Days!"

"Democrats only had a real majority for 24 Days!"

"24 Days"

"24 Days"

"24 Days!"



"I can see Alaska from my house!"

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

45. Are You Thee Best? Or What? Just Too Damn Good! Thank You!

[ashling]

55. Thank you very much

[The Doctor.]

50. Ha.... I see what you did there.

[rsweets]

4. Senator Joseph Lieberman

need i say more?

[truebluegreen]

5. No, that says a lot.

The brief window, after the seating of Senator Franken, and before the death of Senator Kennedy, was never really open, because of scum like Joe LIEberman.

[DirkGently]

6. KNR

[abelenkpe]

7. K&R nt

[Odin2005]

8. This needs to be shown to all the posters who bash Pelosi.

[AlbertCat]

10. This needs to be shown to all the posters who bash Pelosi.

She was in the House. She sent tons of stuff over to die in the Senate.

[patrice]

33. Here you go:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[LoisB]

9. OH THANK YOU!!!

I rail against this every time I hear it. The President NEVER had 60 votes in the Senate; he had the Dems and LIEberman, Landrieu, and the rest of the Blue Dogs.

[AlbertCat]

11. Besides....

Dems don't vote in a block like zombies. They don't vote against legislation they created themselves, or if all their amendments get included. (are you listening Senator Burr.... you jerk?)

[mick063]

12. This topic does not get nearly enough play.

We are conditioning an entire generation into believing that filibuster is the norm.

It isn't. Or it wasn't.

To me, this issue has equal value to the appointment of Supreme Court Justices.


Our legislative body is paralyzed because of it. The office of the President is greatly diminished because of it. To solve America's problems, the mitigation of filibuster abuse has to be the first step.

[truebluegreen]

13. Our government is paralyzed by it

at a time of many crises, the Republicans decided to do nothing so they could put one man out of a job.

Swine. Traitorous, treacherous swine.

[freshwest]

21. And that 'both parties are exactly the same, so give up.'

[Hutzpa]

26. Nicely done

Need to add this also;

If the problem still remains, create voter fraud.

[patrice]

36. Analysis of senate census:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[freshwest]

38. This is what I have told the hope and change mockers -- Obama is working with what he has.

Not what we imagine he has. Thanks for that link with the report. And that's why we BEG people to get out and vote, instead of standing to the side and telling us it's not worth. Americans created this by leaving the fray and surrendering ground to the GOP, state after state, legislature, etc. They don't want to go and confront these folks in person at planning meeting, churches, etc to change their minds. This is a solid GOP voting block that he is dealing with and it's what happens close to home that makes things happen or not happen in D.C.


.

[patrice]

39. LOTS of people have next to no understanding of how things work in Congress AND they are

nearly completely uninformed on the issue facts themselves and that applies all of the way across the political spectrum.

[Ken Burch]

14. Actually, we never had a veto-proof majority at all

Lieberman and Blanche Lincoln and the guy with the dead squirrel on his head from Nebraska always announced they were backing the filibusters, and voted over and over and over again against cloture.

Not meaning to disrespect the sign...just pointing out that the truth is even worse.

[TrollBuster9090]

16. The guy with the dead squirrel on his head from Nebraska: aka Ben Nelson.

And the dead squirrel wasn't on his head, it was inside his skull.

[Ken Burch]

19. If only someone had performed an emergency squirrelectomy.

n/t.

[Hutzpa]

27. lol

[progree]

17. I had to look that one up -- The Senator Ben Nelson from the great state of Nebraska, I presume

I had to look that up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Senators_from_Nebraska January 3, 2009 - present: both Mike Johanns (RepubliCON) and Ben Nelson (DemocRAT).

[Ken Burch]

20. You're right.

William Jennings Bryan would roll in his grave if he knew the kind of senators his state elects now. So would George Norris.

[patrice]

29. Agreed. + Link to analysis:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[TrollBuster9090]

15. As far as I'm aware, there were NEVER 60 Democrats in the Senate. Am I wrong?

I thought they only had 57, and had to pull in Sanders and Lieberman (as in 'Lieberman the guy who was McCain's ORIGINAL pick for VP), and Snowe to get the first healthcare bill passed. Then Kennedy died, they lost one vote and had to pass the affordable care act using reconciliation...which nearly didn't pass due to a few House Democrats voting no.

[saidsimplesimon]

22. You nailed it

What's with the smirking glares from the Mittens, Scott Brown and Ryan? It reminds me of the old shrub days, "I'm the decider in Chief". Are we moving forward, or back to the future?

[patrice]

30. The analysis I linked above counts the possible progressives in the Senate at 44. nt

[busterbrown]

18. Republican created Myths are always lies......

I actually think the "You didn't build that" bullshit
is the one lie that they still use and reuse. It is time that
the mainstream media put this false piece of crap to rest!

[madmax]

23. Hear this everyday - TY n/t

[patrice]

31. Link to research on this:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[krawhitham]

25. K&R

[orpupilofnature57]

28. Ten times, yep that's as close as they

can see, they're desperate.

[patrice]

34. Here's a breakdown of a senate census:

http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/07/myth-of-progressive-majority/

[rapersun]

40. GOP Block

Fortunately for us, Dems don't vote in blocks. We actually have our own opinions and see the whole picture - which sometimes affects the way we vote.

GOPs do not think for themselves unfortunately, they vote together to make things happen.

I'm torn about what is for the best and what works the best.

[cr8tvlde]

41. While we're "torn", with all due respect and I'm one of them, they have run with the ball

"to make things happen" into the end zone. Six points. That's like saying we all come to the huddle with a new plan to run the field and meanwhile the other team has gone downfield, we're still discussing 7 different plays. Lining up with a cool play for the extra point punt protection? As Liberal as it all sounds, it's not working.

[PuppyBismark]

42. Just sent this to a Rthug friend N/T

[genxlib]

43. I would go further

I would say the Democrats never had a filibuster proof majority because some of their members are not truly Dems.

The Senate has a built in advantage for Red States. NY and California get 2 senators and Montana and Idaho also get 2. If you look at the breakdowns. Many of the most populist states are blue and the smallest states are red. The net result is many more Senator seats have a built in red bias.

Dems face the choice of conceding these seats or competing for them with DINOS. While it looked like a majority, the Dem caucus was handicapped with jackasses like Ben Nelson in Nebraska. He is maddening but the alternative is to have the seat blood red

[tblue37]

44. And that included both Lieberdweeb and a bunch of conservative DINOs who tend to vote

with the Republicans a lot.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

46. Candy Crowley just now was spreading this lie again

She was interviewing Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham and Durbin had to argue against both Crowley and Graham on this. Durbin had to explain the prolonged illnesses and deaths of Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd to a journalist who should know this. Crowley also was acting as a Republican spokesperson instead of a journalist and said there was nothing in Romney's tax returns as though she had seen them. And this right wing partisan masquerading as a journalist will be a debate moderator.

[Tennessee Gal]

48. Thanks for posting this, but was it only 24 days?

President Obama had a Filibuster-proof Majority for 72 Days

The Senate had 60 sitting Democrats only from September 24, 2009 to February 4, 2010, the day on which Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts was sworn in.

Senate Calendar January 21, 2009 - December 31, 2009
17 days out of session from September 24 thru December 31

Senate Calendar January 1, 2010 - February 4, 2010
12 days out of session from January 1 thru February 4

From September 24, 2009 to February 4, 2010, the President had a filibuster-proof majority for 72 days.

http://www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2012/09/president-obama-had-filibuster-proof.html

[skeewee08]

51. K&R

[ck4829]

52. What's even stupider about it is that the people who bring it up are the same people who say...

"Bush isn't President anymore, stop talking about him! It's in the past!!!111!!!"

[progressoid]

53. And that's why we didn't pass the ACA either.

Oh, wait.

[Tennessee Gal]

54. Mitt just lied about this on 60 Minutes!

[B Calm]

56. The person doing the interview set him straight?

Damn liberal media. . .

[Tennessee Gal]

57. Of course not. They never do. nt