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Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

I hung up on a friend and Trump supporter today

Friend calls (much less close friend due to politics) calls today and asks how how I am then how a mutual friend’s recovering son recovering from Covid is.

Knowing he’s a Trump supporter I ask why he wants to know since Covid is a hoax. He says he believes in Covid and wears a mask and gloves. I ask why if Trump says it is a hoax. He says Trump wears a mask. I said not all the time and that his supporters don’t and ask him about Herman Cain dying from Covid. He said he should have worn a mask.

The conversation drifts to the witch doctor/demons lady and I ask him how he can believe someone who lacks credibility. He says there are a lot of doctors giving out conflicting information about Covid. I tell him there aren’t.

Then I mention 170,000 people have died and he starts to talk about pre-existing conditions. I say that is bullshit and that’s Republicans’ just trying to blame the victims for their own illness or demise and that ultimately these people are dying of Covid pre-existing conditions or not.

Then back to the actual numbers. With 170,000 dead I asked him what he thinks. He said “that’s not a lot of people.” I then said “I have to go you’re too fucking stupid.”

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Reply I hung up on a friend and Trump supporter today (Original post)
live love laugh Aug 2020 OP
Nevilledog Aug 2020 #1
brush Aug 2020 #2
live love laugh Aug 2020 #3
brush Aug 2020 #5
lunatica Aug 2020 #4
greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #6
LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #7
greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #8
live love laugh Aug 2020 #13
LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #14
JI7 Aug 2020 #21
stopdiggin Aug 2020 #11
TeamPooka Aug 2020 #15
live love laugh Aug 2020 #19
TeamPooka Aug 2020 #23
live love laugh Aug 2020 #24
femmedem Aug 2020 #16
live love laugh Aug 2020 #18
LisaL Aug 2020 #26
brewens Aug 2020 #9
UpInArms Aug 2020 #10
MLAA Aug 2020 #12
Kaleva Aug 2020 #17
LisaL Aug 2020 #25
Kaleva Aug 2020 #27
radius777 Aug 2020 #20
JI7 Aug 2020 #22

Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

1. That's my go to also. Nevermind, you're too fucking stupid to understand.

I am all out of fucks to give.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

2. Hats off to you. You told him off good, and your last...

sentence was perfect. I'm sure his ears burned for a long time, and he's still thinking about it because he knows you're right.

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Response to brush (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:35 PM

3. Sadly he doesn't know I'm right and he's not a maskhole.

Which means he’s not 100% indoctrinated but he’s still voting for that pos.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:43 PM

5. I think deep down he know you're right. He might not...

be ready to admit it yet.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

4. That was a great ending to a useless friendship!

Who cares what he thinks!

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

6. This post...uhhh

Does not make you look good?


Sorry. Call 'em like I see 'em.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

7. Why is that?

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:58 PM

8. Because the conservative interlocutor

comes off as a decent person wrestling with complexity, while the OP represents themself as a rigid fanatic without much of an argument?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:08 AM

13. I can understand why you would say that.

This conversation is one of many and he’s someone I know very well. We will definitely talk again. But he’s laughed off some things about Trump and even today said something like protesters should be “sprayed.”

Here’s the thing. He’s a nice person in many ways. I simply cannot be “nice” and hide my feelings when lives are at stake—especially somebody so close who barely escaped death.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

14. I didn't see any "wrestling with complexity" or "decent person"

1) He's a Trump supporter

2) He thinks Trump's hoax statement is negated because Trump wears a mask once every 2 months. He totally ignores the fact that Trump perpetuated this thing as a hoax for a long period of time, and literally had to be shamed by his staff into wearing one. Not to mention the fact that Trump literally ignored the pandemic until it was far too late.

3) He dodges the question about the demon doctor by stating that there are doctors putting out conflicting information. That's not exactly true, and it is a good example of "whataboutism".

4) He blames "pre-existing conditions" for the death of over 170,000 people. He blames the victims for their own deaths.

5) He doesn't recognize the enormity of 170,000 deaths in a short period of time, let alone not recognizing the immense suffering of many who survive.

It appears to me that the conservative friend was the one who presented "not much of an argument".

I can't find any empathy or moral wrestling at all in the conservative's statements.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 03:42 AM

21. It's decent to dismiss the Deaths with bringing up Preexisting conditions ?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:02 AM

11. same thought.

No affirmations here I'm afraid.
Did you stop your hectoring long enough to at least let them know how the (other) friend was doing with the illness?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

15. yup. lost someone who sees the problems by insulting them instead of gentle persuasion and sales

This is the DU member formerly known as TeamPooka.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:59 AM

19. 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣

How many “sales” have you chalked up?

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:40 PM

23. I have converted 3 former Trump voters

This is the DU member formerly known as TeamPooka.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #23)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:41 PM

24. WOW 😯

Please share your experience converting Trump’s voters. Who are these people? How did you do it?

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:29 AM

16. I agree. The friend called to ask how the OP was, and the OP attacked.

The friend repeatedly states that he takes covid seriously enough to take precautions against it, and the OP continues to poke and goad.

Does the friend fully appreciate how badly Trump is handling the pandemic? No. But he's not a never-masker, doesn't think the virus is a hoax. He's not completely brainwashed. He appears to be the kind of decent person who could actually evolve into a never-Trumper.

I don't see how calling someone stupid and hanging up on them helps that evolution. And if I were on the receiving end, I doubt I'd ever call again to check up on someone I'd consider a former friend. Who needs the abuse?

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Response to femmedem (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:57 AM

18. In the interest of brevity what I posted wasn't the full conversation.


... it was the low points not a transcript.

The exchange was not all negative.

Also I am not responsible for anybody’s “evolution”. That’s an individual process.




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Response to femmedem (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:46 PM

26. How can a Trump supporter evolve into never Trumper?

I would assume never Trumpers never supported Trump.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

9. I saw a Quackpot meme saying your child is 600,000 times more likely to be abducted by sex

traffickers than die from COVID. It was a little more, but I can't remember the exact figure. On that day I saw we had 89 kids dead I think. That's over five million kids according to their math. And in only six months or so. Do they really make believe that many kids go missing? I'm in north central Idaho. I see our local news, a lot from Spokane, WA and some from the tri-cities area in eastern Washington. There is not one missing child case they suspect was abducted by traffickers that I know of. It's astonishing what the Quazies are being taught.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:00 AM

10. Nicely done ...

You won’t miss the aggravation. Been there ...

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:05 AM

12. Good for you, you handled it well.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 02:39 AM

17. I don't discuss politics with friends or family.

Your friend will still vote for Trump and it appears by reading your other posts, you'll still remain friends with him.

Some here detest Trump so much that they've cut off all ties with family members who support Trump.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 06:44 PM

25. I don't have any Trump loving friends or family.

So I can discuss politics with them and we are on the same page.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 27, 2020, 08:33 AM

27. When it comes to politics, it's impossible to be on the same page.

The arguing, fighting and hidden posts that occur here prove that.

Even though we are all supposedly on the same page, it can get pretty nasty here during primary season.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 03:10 AM

20. 170k+(real number higher) dead and many more w/lifelong issues.

Covid has many after effects (hair loss, lung scarring, heart inflammation, etc) we still don't know about.

Most Trumpers are cowardly racists who hide behind rationalizations.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2020, 03:47 AM

22. Herman Cain lived more than 15 years after stage 4 Cancer and most likely would have lived

years longer if Covid didn't strike him dead.

That's one specific example but there are others also who have been living with their pre existing conditions by taking care of themselves as they need to .

But covid took that away .

And then there are the people who will survive covid but will be dealing with the health issues for how long ? Boris Johnson said he is going to resign because of this . And we know he has access to the best care in the world .

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