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Joe Biden is not expected to visit Kenosha, Wis. on Monday, despite mounting pressure following Donald Trumps announcement over the weekend that he planned to go there Tuesday.
Two sources with knowledge of the former vice presidents travel discussions say that while Biden is expected to travel, he will steer clear of the pivotal Midwestern battleground state on Monday. He is expected to address the rising tensions stemming from the unrest in Portland and Kenosha.
The thinking, according to these people, is that Trumps trip to Kenosha could backfire on the president. The Biden campaign is ramping up its messaging that the unrest in the city and elsewhere is an outgrowth of the president's rhetoric that inflames racial tensions.
Trump announced a trip to Kenosha as he attempted to claim credit for calm on the streets of Kenosha after he made a call to bring in the National Guard.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/30/biden-not-visit-kenosha-monday-405468
Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Smart move by Team Biden, in my opinion.
I also think that Biden should point that out.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,673 posts)But he shouldn't go first.
still_one
(92,134 posts)trump, trump will be his own worse enemy
It also allows Biden to rebut trump if he drops the ball
napi21
(45,806 posts)between him & the JA!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Joe is trying to make this about Kenosha, which may mean delaying his visit until after Trump leaves.
He then can show just how differently he handles the situation.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)Going to Kenosha adds fuel to the fire and keeps the story alive. In the end, this is a local matter and should not be in presidential politics other than to discuss the broader issue of reforming the police.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)own game, and not getting sucked into playing someone else's. Good for him..to thine own self
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)If Biden loses Wisconsin, and it makes a difference, this will be pointed to as a reason.
Hopefully it doesn't matter.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)work against him.
He's trying to NOT be Trump here, who is making it all about his campaign.
But your concern is noted.
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)of the campaign being met with attacks, just as I saw here countless times in 2016.
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)I saw a lot of others saying the same thing late last week. Steve Schmidt was on MSNBC Friday saying that Joe should go there over the weekend.
Drumpf loves the optics and media attention, and he got it with his visit today.
Sometimes I think our side wants to have a tight race. A "healing" trip to Wisconsin by Biden seemed like such an easy thing, but now we'll have to hope that Drumpf doesn't get the positive reaction he's hoping for.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT......
Maybe they have communicated with people in Kenosha about the best and worst times to do this. Maybe they know what they're doing.
But your concern and lack of confidence in "our side" is noted.
Malmsy
(297 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)The average American just knows what they see on TV, and so the average person won't spend time trying to interpret it.
They will only see how Drumpf went and visited Wisconsin.
I'm sorry you don't think there's reason for "concern" about EVERYTHING between now and January 20. It's no big deal, right?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"The Democratic Party can't do anything right" brand of concern that doesn't do any good, doesn't promote any real discussion, and seems to indicate that someone wants people to needlessly doubt the validity of a candidate.
Is that clearer?
It sounds like you think anyone who doesn't share this "Oh, no... Dems are screwing this up again" wringing of hands with youmust be ignoring what's going on, and isn't concerned about anything...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
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BGBD
(3,282 posts)is begging you not to show up.
Why do you think going into that town with a political circus is going to be a good idea? What in Trumps history makes you think that he can come out of this moment looking good to the average person?
I think most people will see this for what it is, political grandstanding. His church photo-op a couple of months ago didn't work, I doubt this comes off any better.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)who don't seem to even be watching what's been going on on the field...
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Kenosha Mayor John Antaramian tells CNN's Pamela Brown that it is "too soon" for President Trump or Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden to be visiting the city.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/08/31/kenosha-mayor-john-antaramian-biden-trump-visit-too-soon-ebof-sot-vpx.cnn
But by all means, contact the campaign and tell them that contradicting the mayor's request would be a good idea for Biden, especially when Trump is doing exactly that.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I had no idea.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"sometimes I think our side just wants a tight race/ to lose" "Dems in disarray" handwringing that is just seeking company.
anamnua
(1,109 posts) Napoleon Bonaparte
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I'm glad to see that our candidate has the sensitivity to respect the residents and not proceed knowing that it would be a crass campaign stop if he did.