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Hundreds of thousands of voters who didn't cast a ballot in 2016 have applied to vote by mail in the (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2020 OP
Which Is Why They're Trying To F&*k Up Mail In Voting sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #1
Of course. LisaL Aug 2020 #7
I'm concerned dejoy will get red state ballots delivered on time, but blue states/cities KS Toronado Aug 2020 #20
I will hand deliver the same day my ballot arrives. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #34
GREAT! I'm thrilled! BUT, they need to be reminded that the ballot must be completed & napi21 Aug 2020 #2
Also, local democratic groups should go on tv and explain to people how to properly fill out Blue_true Aug 2020 #4
I've been voting by mail for years now In It to Win It Aug 2020 #12
I voted by mail in a local election and the recent state and county primary. Blue_true Aug 2020 #14
Same! In It to Win It Aug 2020 #15
Take a picture of your ballot before returning it. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #35
Excellent idea! Many ballots don't get counted because of issues such as not signing them h2ebits Aug 2020 #17
Well, if they already submitted an application they are motivated. LisaL Aug 2020 #9
But the underlying problem is that people only vote after it's too late lindysalsagal Aug 2020 #3
Too many people only vote when they are scared. Blue_true Aug 2020 #8
We are not headed to an economic meltdown. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #36
We all know "democracy was an experiment to see IF it would work. It's lasted fora couple of napi21 Aug 2020 #10
Some of those could be young voters who weren't yet 18 in 2016. LisaL Aug 2020 #11
I Have Three Of Them Just In My Own Family ChoppinBroccoli Aug 2020 #5
You're right! I believe A LOT of Dems stayed hone in 2016 because the media preached a napi21 Aug 2020 #13
There are a lot of stories out there about how in 1948 PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #16
That's encouraging! In It to Win It Aug 2020 #6
Hand deliver you ballot if you can.... Acornsouth Aug 2020 #18
Surprised by Michigan tally. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #19
You saying people didn't turn out for the primary this year in Michigan? KS Toronado Aug 2020 #21
No, MI doesn't seem to have a large difference between democratic and republican applications LisaL Aug 2020 #23
MI doesn't have party registration RandySF Aug 2020 #28
OH doesn't either, but if you vote in the primary, you have do LisaL Aug 2020 #32
Hillary lost Michigan in part because of low urban turnout. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #25
Detroiters turned out for the August primary, but they mostly voted in person. RandySF Aug 2020 #27
the chart has nothing to do with 2018. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #29
August 2020 RandySF Aug 2020 #30
Michigan voters don't register by party so I don't know how they got those numbers. Kaleva Aug 2020 #31
But in a primary they have to decide which ballot they want. LisaL Aug 2020 #33
No. In MI. you get one ballot that lists both Dem and Repub candidates. Kaleva Aug 2020 #38
interesting. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #37
You can post your opinions on the FOX NEWS stories! tell your friends! foxtruth Aug 2020 #22
homeless Avis Aug 2020 #24
expect to find the mail box slots glued shut a week before election day Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #26

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
1. Which Is Why They're Trying To F&*k Up Mail In Voting
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:57 PM
Aug 2020

The Democrats hold a large advantage on new voters in battleground states, and likely elsewhere as well. The number of people voting by mail will be enormous, and could decide the election. Although it may be a blowout to begin with.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
20. I'm concerned dejoy will get red state ballots delivered on time, but blue states/cities
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 12:52 AM
Aug 2020

will be deliberately slowed or even held back on purpose. There's a reason all the mail sorting
machines that were decommissioned were in heavy Democratic areas. Would encourage
everyone using mail-in ballots to check local laws to hand deliver them where ever possible.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. GREAT! I'm thrilled! BUT, they need to be reminded that the ballot must be completed &
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:57 PM
Aug 2020

returned as EARLY as possible so DT's PO plan fails!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. Also, local democratic groups should go on tv and explain to people how to properly fill out
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:04 PM
Aug 2020

seal and sign the ballots so that they don’t get rejected.

The data matches something that I noticed in Florida. I am in the moron Ted Yoho’s district. Yoho is not running for re-election, so there was an open primary on both the democratic and republican sides. Our democrats appeared to have had more people voting, even though republicans had a larger field of candidates and put out more campaign posters along roadways.

In It to Win It

(8,236 posts)
12. I've been voting by mail for years now
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:15 PM
Aug 2020

At least here in my county (Broward), the instructions are bold print on the envelop.

I had my ballot rejected 1 time for a mayoral election, which obviously I didn't know about until the elections over. I got a letter in the mail about a month later telling me that my ballot has been rejected because it wasn't signed. I thought to myself "WHAT??? I'm sure I signed it. I always sign these things", but I didn't remember whether I signed the thing or not before I mailed it back.

That has haunted me every election since so I check my ballot about a million times and methodically go through the instructions over and over before I send it back just to ensure that it won't get rejected.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. I voted by mail in a local election and the recent state and county primary.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:27 PM
Aug 2020

I plan to vote early in person in the General.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. Well, if they already submitted an application they are motivated.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:09 PM
Aug 2020

I mean, you have to fill it out, you have to put a stamp on it, you have to send it.
In states like OH, ballots won't be send out until Oct 6th, so it's pretty early in a game.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
3. But the underlying problem is that people only vote after it's too late
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:03 PM
Aug 2020

and the damage is beyond repair.

Our species is too selfish, short-sighted and irresponsible to sustain democracy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. Too many people only vote when they are scared.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:08 PM
Aug 2020

2008 is an example, the world came hours from a complete worldwide economic meltdown. I believe people perceive that we may be headed there again, hence more interest in voting.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. We are not headed to an economic meltdown.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:35 AM
Aug 2020

We are already deeply in an economic meltdown, a social breakdown, and a deadly pandemic.

If that isn't enough to scare people into voting, we are all dead.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. We all know "democracy was an experiment to see IF it would work. It's lasted fora couple of
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:13 PM
Aug 2020

hundred years so I disagree with you that it's over, done, filed, now. However, IF the voters reelect the current dictator wanna be in November, we well might see your belief come true. The damage done so far can still be fixed. It won't be easy or quick, but it's doable. Another 4 years like the last 4 could destroy it beyond repair!

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
5. I Have Three Of Them Just In My Own Family
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:06 PM
Aug 2020

My mom, my aunt, and my uncle all didn't vote at all in 2016, but they're all enthusiastically voting for Biden this time around. And the thing about stories like this is, you can say they're just anecdotal, and they are, but I'll bet you that literally EVERYONE here has a story like this. Someone they know who either didn't vote or voted for Trump who is voting for Biden now. That's a pretty healthy swing going against a guy who got 3 million fewer votes than his challenger last time.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
13. You're right! I believe A LOT of Dems stayed hone in 2016 because the media preached a
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:21 PM
Aug 2020

Hillary win for soooo long, they just felt their vote wasn't needed, she would win anyway. I've seen & heard them on TV. Hell, even the media talking heads were shocked! I'm positive they haven't forgotten how bad & guilty they felt when the horrible verdict was announced! They're going to vote this time, FOR SURE!

HOWEVER, we all have to watch for the manipulation of the PO & any other tricks DT tries to pull off to void their efforts.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
16. There are a lot of stories out there about how in 1948
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 11:46 PM
Aug 2020

Republicans were so certain that Thomas Dewey would win the election, that supposedly a whole lot of them didn't bother to vote. I've always wondered just how true that was.

Me, I always vote. Even when I lived in Kansas so that I knew my vote for Democrats wouldn't count, and now when I live in New Mexico (hooray!) when I am assuredly in the Democratic majority.

Acornsouth

(298 posts)
18. Hand deliver you ballot if you can....
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 12:46 AM
Aug 2020

Every voting district has a drop off box at the election headquarters, Township office or polling place and if you feel the mail might be held up, by all means, hand deliver it!...If you get it on one day, take it in the very next day...dont wait!!!!!!!!!... We can beat them at their own game by doing this!...

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
19. Surprised by Michigan tally.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 12:50 AM
Aug 2020

That was a lower blue turnout than expected in '16. Figured there'd be a much higher number in '20.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
23. No, MI doesn't seem to have a large difference between democratic and republican applications
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 01:09 AM
Aug 2020

for this election.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
32. OH doesn't either, but if you vote in the primary, you have do
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:31 AM
Aug 2020

decide if you want to vote in a democratic primary or a republican primary.
From that you are assumed to be either a Democrat or a Republican.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
31. Michigan voters don't register by party so I don't know how they got those numbers.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 05:03 AM
Aug 2020

From the MI. SOS website:

"Does a political party preference have to be declared when registering to vote?

No. Michigan voters do not register by party."

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-5647_12539_29836-88652--,00.html

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
33. But in a primary they have to decide which ballot they want.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:32 AM
Aug 2020

So from that they are either Democrat or a Republican. Anyhow, that's how they do it in OH. You don't have to register under any particular party, but in a primary you have to pick which (Democratic or Republican) party you want to vote for.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
38. No. In MI. you get one ballot that lists both Dem and Repub candidates.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 10:52 AM
Aug 2020

You can only select Dem or Repub candidates so crossover voting isn't allowed in a primary election but everybody, Dem, Repub, Indy or 3rd Party gets the same ballot in the primary election.

 

foxtruth

(12 posts)
22. You can post your opinions on the FOX NEWS stories! tell your friends!
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 01:02 AM
Aug 2020

Answer back to Fox News

You can go to the belly of the beast and post your thoughts or give your thumbs up to posts you like!!

Tell your friends!! Please forward this information as much as you can! Thanks!

It’s fun..it’s entertaining..it’s effective and satisfying.


For about a month now, I have been writing comments about the various news stories on the Fox News website. Sometimes I will have up to 8 different fox news stories open on my screen and reply to each with different counterpoints, often a number of them on the same story over the course of an hour or two. It’s actually rather fun and satisfying….being able to get your say in with these people.

This way, I can post dozens of attention getting posts that the fox followers will read, often with ‘interesting’ feedback from them, as you can well imagine. Surprisingly, there are a substantial number of us Democratic types that post on there, or that rate the comments. (I’ve had up to 12 likes for a post). In actuality though, the foxers outnumber the ‘normals’ as you would expect.
Let us better the ratio!
Our side needs more troops over there to help educate the foxes, the stoats and the weasels about the truth.

Over time, I’ve had to occasionally delete my account and change usernames when Fox catches on, or someone complains. I think this has happened when I post too much too quickly, perhaps and also when I get down on Fox directly, so be a little circumspect. At a certain point, Fox will keep showing you your posts, but no one else will see them. You will know this when no one reacts to them, or you can check by going to your incognito page and see if your posts show up or not on fox there.. It’s a pretty easy get around though if they shut you down. Just delete your account, (you can keep the same email) , and create a new account with a new user name. It just takes a couple of minutes.

Please try and keep things civil. Witty if possible, and try to avoid insults. We’re here to convince Fox people who are often woefully ignorant of the truth. Educate them.

I don’t believe you’re supposed to cut and paste, but I do successfully. (I keep about 25 posts on file that I use, when I don’t write spontaneously or in reply to some stupid thing or another)

It’s actually kind of fun, (addicting?) to post, and I think it may actually do a lot of good, as a lot of fox readers aren’t necessarily committed Trump cultists, they may just be ignorant, not stupid, and they may be on the fence.

Below is an example of what I post.
See you over there!
Foxtruth
Answer back to Fox News

Trump’s deep thoughts:
1- “why don’t we just drop a nuke in the eye of a hurricane to stop it?”
2- the Revolutionary Army took over the airport’s in the 1700’s
3- “the new clean coal mine is going to take out the coal and actually clean it so it’ll be clean coal.”
4- “the F-35’s are invisible. They can’t fight against them. The enemy can be right next to one and they can’t fight because they’re stealth....it’s literally invisible.”
5- “Puerto Rico is surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.”
6- “water is wet....from the standpoint of water.”
7- “they say the noise from those big windmills causes cancer.”
8- “disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do that....by injection, almost a cleaning. It sounds interesting to me.”
9- “Isn’t Finland a part of Russia?”
10- “the map came to me with that sharpie drawing on it.”
11. “Andrew Jackson should have stopped the Civil War. (He died 16 years prior)
12. Trump said he had never heard of a Category 5 Hurricane even though he had already experienced three in his presidency.
13. “When I was hearing the amount of people that died with the flu, I was shocked to hear it… I would have said, ‘Does anybody die of the flu?’ I didn’t know people died from the flu.”
Fact check: Trump’s grandfather died of the flu.
14. "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Trumps mean girl name calling is surely getting old.

Another example of what I post:

If blue collar workers and the middle class vote for Trump, they may as well take the next steps.
Take out your gun, aim at foot, pull trigger. Then git your knife out and cut off your nose to spite your face.
Trump's buddy Bannon called low income folk voting for republicans, Hobbits.
Imagine what Trump calls you guys when he's with his super wealthy behind closed doors at Mara Lagos.
…even Trump voters will eventually see he has no clothes on and that it’s truly an ugly sight to behold.
….nothin sadder than a poor republican. At least the super rich , the ones who are very greedy, have a reason for a trump vote.
I think the smarter of the folks who voted for Trump the first time are realizing it would be foolish and against their interests to vote for him again.
Good decision, people.
Vote for Joe

Avis

(150 posts)
24. homeless
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 01:35 AM
Aug 2020

If many people become homeless Sept 1 ... how can they vote this year? All of this seems
way too convenient -- mess up the mail and create people without addresses by not helping them pay rent?

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