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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:29 PM Jan 2012

Google, Facebook, Twitter, PayPal, Yahoo!and Wikipedia Coordinating possible blackout

to protest SOPA!

Can you imagine a world without Google or Facebook? If plans to protest the potential passing of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) come to fruition, you won’t need to; those sites, along with many other well-known online destinations, will go temporarily offline as a taste of what we could expect from a post-SOPA Internet.

Companies including Google, Facebook, Twitter, PayPal, Yahoo! and Wikipedia are said to be discussing a coordinated blackout of services to demonstrate the potential effect SOPA would have on the Internet, something already being called a “nuclear option” of protesting. The rumors surrounding the potential blackout were only strengthened by Markham Erickson, executive director of trade association NetCoalition, who told FoxNews that “a number of companies have had discussions about [blacking out services]” last week.

According to Erickson, the companies are well aware of how serious an act such a blackout would be:

This type of thing doesn’t happen because companies typically don’t want to put their users in that position. The difference is that these bills so fundamentally change the way the Internet works. People need to understand the effect this special-interest legislation will have on those who use the Internet.


http://techland.time.com/2012/01/05/sopa-what-if-google-facebook-and-twitter-went-offline-in-protest/

The date for this is potentially January 23rd.

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Google, Facebook, Twitter, PayPal, Yahoo!and Wikipedia Coordinating possible blackout (Original Post) boston bean Jan 2012 OP
I hope they do this and I wish other Internet giants would join them justiceischeap Jan 2012 #1
And put a page that says only... boston bean Jan 2012 #2
I am in awe of the internet and the greatness of people when they try roguevalley Jan 2012 #21
may i mention this? la la Jan 2012 #3
Stunning, fantastic... Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #4
They probably will have a link to call congress right freakin' now. itsrobert Jan 2012 #5
Great idea! But I bet their investors don't think so. tridim Jan 2012 #6
I'm sure they've weighed or are weighing the down sides to this vs the down sides to SOPA. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jan 2012 #10
Yes - you're right, and that may be the deciding factor unless they get the message across gateley Jan 2012 #39
I hope they do it - TBF Jan 2012 #8
I'd be screwn. I use the Internet to make a living justiceischeap Jan 2012 #9
Then you would be double screwn if SOPA passes Muskypundit Jan 2012 #11
I work for a non-profit organization that the Republicans want to take funding from justiceischeap Jan 2012 #12
Wow! chervilant Jan 2012 #43
Probably not. :D nt justiceischeap Jan 2012 #45
+1 Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #14
Many folks do - but you happen to be one who is politically aware TBF Jan 2012 #13
I think the phone system would melt down people calling their reps! Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #15
Hopefully they would be able to find the # without google! boston bean Jan 2012 #16
I'd imagine if they did this, they'd have info about why they're doing it justiceischeap Jan 2012 #17
Actually, chervilant Jan 2012 #44
hmm, Imagine a world where for a short period of time, Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2012 #18
there is only one way to get their point across...shut it down! madrchsod Jan 2012 #19
K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #20
They're gonna occupy the internet? Iggo Jan 2012 #22
Really? I don't think I will miss any of them except maybe Google and frankly Cleita Jan 2012 #23
It's the principle behind the action that is important slay Jan 2012 #26
Yes, that's true. Cleita Jan 2012 #27
The users who "count"? PVnRT Jan 2012 #34
The people, whose attention they are trying to get. Will it work? Cleita Jan 2012 #37
Don't be a scab! joshcryer Jan 2012 #28
LOL! I'll try not to. Cleita Jan 2012 #29
If it happens I doubt it'll be long, a few minutes tops, maybe do it in a rolling-blackout way. joshcryer Jan 2012 #31
So,you support SOPA? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #30
No, I was just saying I wouldn't miss them. Cleita Jan 2012 #33
With the vast amount of users that Facebook and Twitter have... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #41
K&R nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #24
This is great news - I hope they do it slay Jan 2012 #25
These companies don't get it. Just give the money ***TO the politicians*** limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #32
I had bad reading comprehension at first tavalon Jan 2012 #35
No way they'll get RIM to go along JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #36
I wonder if Google will turn off everything or just the search engine. drm604 Jan 2012 #38
If you support this, contact these companies and let them know. gateley Jan 2012 #40
Brilliant! Love it and, like others, hope other "Internet giants" join in tpsbmam Jan 2012 #42
Cool. robinlynne Jan 2012 #46
I would be swamped at work if they went through with it RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #47

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
2. And put a page that says only...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jan 2012

Call your Senator and Congressperson and tell them to shove this bill... well, you know, where... the sun don't shine!

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
5. They probably will have a link to call congress right freakin' now.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jan 2012

With telephone numbers and other contact information.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
7. I'm sure they've weighed or are weighing the down sides to this vs the down sides to SOPA.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

SOPA passing would probably be worse than a day offline in the long run.

Response to tridim (Reply #6)

gateley

(62,683 posts)
39. Yes - you're right, and that may be the deciding factor unless they get the message across
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jan 2012

that it this would ultimately hurt the stock prices.

It's always the money, isn't it?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. I'd be screwn. I use the Internet to make a living
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:01 PM
Jan 2012

and Google, Facebook and Twitter are a big part of that.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
13. Many folks do - but you happen to be one who is politically aware
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jan 2012

many may not even realize how this legislation would effect them. It would be good for them to find out before it's passed so they can help us advocate against SOPA.

boston bean

(36,220 posts)
16. Hopefully they would be able to find the # without google!
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:38 PM
Jan 2012

Maybe they need to put the Switchboard number on their protest page.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
17. I'd imagine if they did this, they'd have info about why they're doing it
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jan 2012

and what their visitors should do.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
44. Actually,
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jan 2012

I'm keeping my last "REAL" yellow pages, just in case.

The corporate megalomaniacs are perniciously and persistently eroding our rights and our resources. I fully expect them to pass SOPA or some derivation thereof. They can ill afford an informed, networked 99%.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
18. hmm, Imagine a world where for a short period of time,
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jan 2012

people actually got off their asses, went outside and spoke face to face with other people! Seriously though, I hope they do it. It seems pretty hard for the average citizen to be heard by the government, so lets get some help from the heavy-weights.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
23. Really? I don't think I will miss any of them except maybe Google and frankly
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:19 AM
Jan 2012

there are other search engines out there so I don't think I will miss Google that much.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
26. It's the principle behind the action that is important
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:54 AM
Jan 2012

not the groups doing it so much - free speech on the internet will be basically dead if SOPA passes.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
27. Yes, that's true.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:57 AM
Jan 2012

I wonder though if it will do any good with the users who count, not necessarily me.

PVnRT

(13,178 posts)
34. The users who "count"?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jan 2012

What is that supposed to mean? The point of this is to get people who AREN'T that politically aware to be against SOPA, not reach those who already are. Those few sites will pretty much ensure that. So, I'm curious as to who the users who "count" are.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
37. The people, whose attention they are trying to get. Will it work?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jan 2012

I hope it does, but somehow I'm skeptical. I think something more drastic and targeted is needed.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
31. If it happens I doubt it'll be long, a few minutes tops, maybe do it in a rolling-blackout way.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:08 AM
Jan 2012

They cannot afford to keep it down for long. I bet Google will do it IP specific, each IP that hits it is down for 5 mins and then it comes back.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. With the vast amount of users that Facebook and Twitter have...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jan 2012

With the vast amount of users that Facebook and Twitter have, I imagine it will get rather a lot of attention if they go black for even one hour.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
25. This is great news - I hope they do it
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jan 2012

people need to know the stakes of this are HUGE. We can not let SOPA pass and if takes blacking out half the internet to protest SOPA - so be it!

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
32. These companies don't get it. Just give the money ***TO the politicians***
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:08 AM
Jan 2012

Money talks, Bullshit walks.

Google, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc....they haven't quite figured out how a bill becomes a law.

The movie, music, and publishing industries understand how the government works.
They gave the money to the politicians, and so now they get their law, simple.

Internet companies like Facebook, etc., they have some catching up to do.
Got to beef up the industry lobbying efforts. That's how it works.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
35. I had bad reading comprehension at first
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jan 2012

and my hackles raised, especially since the companies listed have been pretty strong about net neutrality. But then I reread, and I can stand behind this blackout.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
36. No way they'll get RIM to go along
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:02 AM
Jan 2012

RIM (Research In Motion, Blackberry) already had a blackout. I don't think they'll want to go through that publicity again soon.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
38. I wonder if Google will turn off everything or just the search engine.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

A large number of websites use Google APIs and would have their javascript crippled it Google were to shut down their APIs.

A lot companies use Google Docs.

It would certainly send a strong message if those were shut down.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
40. If you support this, contact these companies and let them know.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jan 2012

EDIT to clarify, I didn't mean you specifically, boston bean, I meant the collective DU.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
42. Brilliant! Love it and, like others, hope other "Internet giants" join in
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:34 PM
Jan 2012

to really cause a temporary shut-down of the Internet, essentially. But just as it is, it'll cause people to sit up and take notice and hopefully get off their asses to contact their representatives to oppose SOPA! I suspect legislators would be overwhelmed with calls because of this action.







 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
47. I would be swamped at work if they went through with it
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jan 2012

During "normal working hours."
Sheesh, people would be on the phone with our Help(less) Desk like mad. I just hope they give advance notice.

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