Hypothetically, if you had to live in any other country, where would you go and why?

Okay, Canada.

Why?

Many kind and creative men today are from Canada.
And it's closer than Iceland.

The culture is similar enough to be comfortable and different enough to stay interesting. And I've found most Canadians to be very likeable.

"...as he says, "No description of me is truly complete without saying I'm a Canadian". He has often winked and nodded to Canada in his outrageously accomplished body of work, but now he turns the spotlight full-beam on his homeland."

https://amzn.to/3lFLm06

Amazon is trying to get me to subscribe to their audible books, so I could listen to it for free. I've always liked Mike Myers, so I just might get it.

...history, beauty, ancestry. Perfect climate--not too hot or cold, and I don't mind cloudy days. Civilized--well, relatively. Boris Johnson, bad as he is, would stand out like Pericles compared to today's GOP. I'd live in a provincial city in a pretty area--maybe Bristol, or Plymouth, or Oxford. And visit that little town on the Welsh border--I forget the name--that has all the bookstores, maybe once a month. I'd be happy enough...

Great weather, beautiful scenery, and sane politicians.

Odds are they wouldn't have me, though. I'm not wealthy and don't have any unique skills they're looking for at this time.

Particularly London. I've been an Anglophile since childhood. No idea why. Grew up watching "Lion in Winter" and "Beckett," love "Camelot," all the Bounty movies, even "My Fair Lady." Used to consider myself an expert on the entire Tudor dynasty, own both mini-series "Elizabeth R" and "Six Wives of Henry VIII" and - go ahead, laugh at me, I can take it - I can list every monarch from Edward the Confessor right on down. Wrote a screenplay about the Battle of Hastings. Again, don't know why. It's always been there.

I get it. I'm sick. I'm thinking, in another life...

Did spend 5 days in London with my Mom way back in '89, have tried planning a return trip ever since, just not going to work out. But I loved it.

Serious Anglophile cred there, methinks.

Really want to get back to London once more before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

Can’t name all the succession, though I have watched this several times, which I think is well-done:

Never seen that - will have to watch! Thank you for posting that!

Didn't take to "The Tudors" mini-series much, there were too many times when I yelled "it didn't happen that way!" But they covered Anne Boleyn perfectly. The Elizabeth movies were even worse, but I did enjoy them.

LOVED "The Last Kingdom" series, can't wait for season 5. While the characters are all over the place out of their dates, too good for that to matter.

And I didn't mention that I can trace my line back to Edward IV. Oddly, when I discovered that, I was 48 and it didn't hit me like it would have when I was younger. I'm African-American... it impressed me, but I'll be more thrilled if I can find the Kunta Kinte of my family.

My family’s genealogy extends to the 1100’s and it’s really fascinating to know the names of your ancestors.

Will definitely check out “The Last Kingdom” series - thanks for the tip. Did you enjoy “Wolf Hall?”

Cheers!

It was very good - the actor Rylance, who played Cromwell - he's excellent. But I got distracted, that was 2015, when LeBron James returned home (Cavs fan!)

Cheers to you too!

But from the couple of minutes I watched, it seems England began in 1066. I'm guessing the period before then, starting with the departure of Roman forces, would be interesting, if a bit confusing.

The Norman Conquest seems like small potatoes compared to the Anglo-Saxon conquest or the Viking conquest.

William "The Conqueror" was actually an intriguing charming aggressive bully with a huge ego - extremely intelligent, able to lie, manipulate, and use every kind of strategy you can think of to get his way. Harold, on the other hand, had none of that guile, but was beloved and respected for his steadiness and support of Edward the Confessor. His one mistake was to travel to Normandy. His naivete cost him the throne. If Harold had not made that trip, it's possible William would not have won that battle because he may not have gained the Pope's support (though he did promise to Bring England completely under the Vatican's control, which it was not), and may not have convinced all the Norman earls to follow him, and therefore would have had fewer mercenaries. The story of these two men is what fascinated me.

So no, not as violent as the Viking conquest, just one battle. But what led up to it was interesting.

*************************** I CAN ONLY NAME FROM HENRY II.

I visited GB in 2001 and that had been my dream since i was a sophomore in high school. i love English, Scottish all of GB history. French and all of Europe.


i would live in SCOTLAND !!!!!

Starts with William I (1066)

Willie, Willie, Harry, Ste,
Harry, Dick, John, Harry three;
One two three Neds, Richard two,
Harrys four five six, ... then who?

Edwards four five, Dick the bad,
Harrys (twain), Ned (the lad);
Mary, Bessie, James the vain,
Charlie, Charlie, James again

Will and Mary, Anna Gloria,
Georges four, then Will, Victoria;
Edward seven, George and Ted,
George the sixth, now Liz instead.

I would love to visit Scotland. Didn't mention one of my favorite movies, "Braveheart." Bet you like "Outlander?" I read the first 3 books years ago, but didn't keep up with the series.

courses, but never really learned how to speak them. And now I'm too damn old to start over.

So, I've been to really neat Caribbean islands, like St Maartin, which would be fun to retire in. Europe, of course, and I kinda fell in love with Scotland. Haven't been to Ireland, yet, but it sounds good. Everywhere on the Continent were great places to visit, and Scotland's just a hop away.

South and Central America don't interest me much, and I know very little about Africa, Asia, and the Pacific, although the little I do know is intriguing.

Visited when I was a teen and thought it was the most beautiful place I'd ever been.

The spouse and I have discussed this. There are not easy answers. Britain is not exactly stable now. Canada is significantly different in many undesirable ways. I don't speak foreign languages. South America is continually unstable. There are northern European countries that are appealing but I planned financially for US law so it makes it all the more complex. But I will say, if he w7, I'll start to make plans, and if he starts arresting political opponents, I'm gone despite the fiscal impact.

I've always been so fascinated with their culture and way of life I would totally live there if I had the chance

It's like a village in a Disney movie (not to be confused with a Disney park). Just felt at home there. Even the punks were well-mannered.



Saw Flash Gordon, Coal Miner's Daughter and When A Stranger Calls at the Kongsberg Kino.

It's different enough to be interesting but I wouldn't have to learn another language at my age. A friend of mine was transferred there for a couple of years and loved it. Although, I would have to get used to driving on the wrong side of the road, lol. And I've always wanted to see the night sky in the Southern Hemisphere. I want to see what the sky looks like without the Big Dipper and see the Southern Cross instead. The country is gorgeous and not led by a nut. Hopefully, we won't have to deal with that after January but after 2016 I'm so gunshy I take nothing for granted.

about 2 years ago and they seem to think they could live there. I would follow my daughters.

I could probably get visas to those two countries?

I'm not rich so my options are more limited.

I forgot I have family in Germany! I'll pick that one if they'd host me.

They have a points scheme for visas. If you can get an ancestry visa/passport, it'll be much easier, but it's limited (I think) to 2nd generation. I've looked into this for Ireland and the UK, but being 3rd generation, it's difficult if not impossible.

Italy is easier if you're ancestry is through the paternal line (mine is not).

And migrating to Germany? Have fun dealing with the Bundesamt for Migration und Flüchtlinge...It's a headache and a half (dealt with them last year).

She married a British citizen. Even though they divorces, she has retained the citizenship she acquired during that marriage. So that is one path to immigrating to England/UK.

The Dutch don’t even require you to be married, just in a long term relationship 🤣

They are ahead of the game. Clean green living and good leadership.

I live in Toronto - and there's nowhere I would rather be.

I came here from NY in '74. It took a period of adjustment, but then I fell in love with this city.

At the beginning, I was reluctant to leave the US. But as things have unfolded over the years, I came to be grateful to be here, rather than there.

A reasonably mild weather for a Canadian city. It’s beautiful. I’ve been twice over the years. And the Canadians I’ve met have been very pleasant. I also liked Sydney, and again all the Australians I’ve worked with have just been so decent and fun loving.

If Trump steals this election I am moving to Canada. If I can't immigrate legally, I'll just walk there, cross the border and become an illegal alien, er, an undocumented immigrant.

When all the dust has settled and we can get organized and sell up here.

I have been OS ten years plus now and want the kids there for higher education. My wife is French and she agrees and wants to move there too.

We are actively searching for good properties ATM even though they will likely be gone when the time comes. Also about to start some online courses with the idea that we will change our lifestyle and careers completely.

Right now feel trapped and angry in a Spain that doesn't give a shit about you or common sense and disappointed with the EUs open for business handling of this pandemic.

As someone said to me recently, "They say home is where the heart is, but sometimes, home is where the kangaroos are"

He's dead right.

Even with a right wing government, the country is coping so much better than most others.

But you can't deny it's been better than almost everyone else.

I think more than that though this pandemic has caused us personally to question our priorities and if it really is the way wish to live and the answer is no. We could go back and translate our life, jobs and house to suburbia Australia but then we'd just be in the same situation.
At the end of the day the only ones looking out for us is ourselves and frankly our kids deserve better too.

I have nothing to complain about, by comparison. Being retired, my only burden is social distancing. I'm not paying off a mortgage or paying rent. I truly think that the baby boomers could contribute with some of their franking credits, but I'm sure that would have a snow-ball's chance in hell of getting up.

I have looked into this quite a bit in recent months. My ancestry is Irish so I've checked the particulars and spoken to them. One sticking point is a regulation from 2015 that requires relatively high annual income during retirement, so you won't be a burden to the state.

Scotland would be great also, especially since I'm such a golf fan.

Canada and specifically British Columbia would interest me. I always love trips to Vancouver, Victoria and Whistler area.

I have relatives who tell me I am overreacting. They don't know a damn thing

The Country known as 'Mr. L's Own Tropical Island'

Maybe the Caymans? Vanuatu? Bora Bora? The Azores? Turks and Caicos?

But if it has to be a realistic place ... Canada, New Zealand, UK would be my first 3.

NZ would be first if it I thought it unlikely I'd ever return for whatever reason.

I'd love to go back to Hong Kong if it were still British like when I lived there as a kid.

That whole country is literally picture-postcard pretty.

-- Ron

I live in the German Rheinland, near Düsseldorf.

I came here because my wife is German and didn't want to move to the States. The commuting got tedious, and I got to structure my job, so that 99% of it was in Europe anyway. I speak German, French, Spanish, Dutch and Italian (and a few others), so language was not an issue. Privacy IS an issue, and the Überwachungsstaat (surveillance state) is very pervasive. I sometimes wonder why East Germany didn't take over West Germany instead of the other way around (J/K--not really. The West had more money).

If I had to move elsewhere, I think I'd move down to Switzerland. Any area with a lake. Geneva, Zürich, Lugano, whichever.

Or maybe next door to the Netherlands, but it's a bit crowded there. Switzerland doesn't have an ocean coast, but Zürich and Basel are only a 50 minute flight from Düsseldorf, and it's a brief flight down to the Mediterranean coasts of Spain, France, Italy and Croatia. Besides, the Swiss lakes are spectacular.

of the highlands just calls to me. I could get lost for years in the history, natural beauty and fabulous people that live there.

It seems like a very sane country, and it's about as far from this country as it's possible to get. It also looks like an extremely beautiful place.

Beautiful country great golf courses mother’s family from there

Or perhaps Canada.

England is easy enough in terms of language/culture. My Irish ancestors would roll in their graves, but alas...that's actually where I'm headed very, very soon. I'm going on a Tier 4 Student visa, but qualify for a Tier 1 when I complete my studies.
The Netherlands is beautiful and I'm teaching myself Dutch. The people are lovely.
Germany is stable, beautiful, their academic research scheme is great for those of us looking to flee the US academy (me).
I'd love Ireland, but it's really expensive.

Once you get it explained to you, it's actually not at all difficult.

But hearing it- especially Rotterdamse- is another matter altogether 🤣🤣

If you can read German, learning to read Dutch is an easy adjustment. It's sort of like trying to read Republicanese*--it's basically the same language with messed up grammar and spelling. But speaking it is like trying to understand spoken Danish if all you know is Swedish or Norwegian. Written out, it's 98% the same language. Spoken, it might as well be Albanian.

* In case you're not familiar with Republicanese, here is a quick introduction:

EXCERPTS FROM THE OFFICIAL DICTIONARY OF REPUBLICANESE

In Republicanese, many words that sound alike may be spelled differently at random. A few prominent examples:

In Republicanese, the following words may be spelled at random using any of the three ways given:

A.) Two, Too, To
B.) Their, They're, There
c.) Your, Yore, You're

The Republicanese version of Robin Hood therefore starts with "In days of you're...."

The only rule is that the correct use of them as in English is never permitted twice in a row.

Words with single letters that change meaning when that letter is doubled must never be used in correct English context. The classic example is “lose” vs. “loose.” In Republicanese, if you do not win an election, then you “loose” that election. Conversely, if your (Republicanese: you’re) belt is too tight, you need it more “lose” in order to be comfortable. Another example would be the Republicanese, “I met Donald Trump, and he was rudder than I imagined,” vs. “I grabbed the ruder and was able to steer the boat to shore.”

In Republicanese, as opposed to English, an apostrophe is used to form a plural. But it must be done at random, never systematically. For example, Bill and Hillary are "the Clinton's," but Bill, Chelsea and Hillary are "the Clintons." The other way around is also correct. In Republicanese, either form is correct as long as it is not spelled the same way twice in a row.
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PS--I often see people on DU using the Republicanese way of forming a plural. E.g. "We Democrat's believe...." or "I like to keep three cat's in my house," etc. Since there is no school in the English-speaking world that has ever taught a kid to use an apostrophe to form a plural, I assume they do it to make their posts more comprehensible to visiting Republican trolls as a courtesy. It's a kind gesture, but it sometimes confuses people who don't know any other language than English. Besides, a Republican will never thank you for it, since they don't know the difference.

especially as I'm increasingly anxious about moving to the land of Cockney English.

I find Dutch to be like a puzzle made by a drunk person specifically designed to be put together by a troupe of monkeys.

Danish makes the French number system seem streamlined.
In French (except in Belgium and Switzerland, who have broken free of French academic rigidity), 70-99 goes:
sixty-ten, sixty-and-eleven, sixty-twelve (etc. etc.), sixty nineteen (we're at 79 now), four twenties, four twenties one, four twenties two, (etc. etc.), four twenties nine, four twenties ten, four twenties eleven, four twenties twelve, etc. etc. four twenties nineteen (we're now at 99), one hundred.

Think THAT'S bad?

Here's Danish:

50-99 goes like this:
half off of three twenties, one and half (half a twenty, that is) off of three twenties (still with me? this is 51), two and half off of three twenties, three and half off of three twenties, (etc. etc.), nine and half off of three twenties, three twenties (now we're at 60). One and three twenties, two and three twenties, (etc. etc.) nine and three twenties, half off of four twenties (now we're at 70), one and half off of four twenties, two and half off of four twenties (still with me? we're at 72), nine and half off of four twenties, four twenties (hey, it worked for the French), one and four twenties, two and four twenties (etc. etc.), nine and four twenties, half off of five twenties (OK, they don't have to do EVERYTHING like the French), one and half off of five twenties, two and half off of five twenties (we're now at 92), etc. etc. nine and half off of five twenties (Danish: ni og halvfems), one hundred.

No wonder Denmark is less burdened than Sweden with third world immigration. Once any self-respecting immigrant tries to assimilate, and is presented with the Danish number system, most people would flee in terror to the nearest border, and hope the next country, whichever it is, has a number system that DOESN'T sound like it is an excerpt from Alice in Wonderland.

"Welcome to Denmark, Mr. Biannajee, We can offer you a ticket for local public transportation worth seven and half off five twenties kroner a week, a food voucher worth eight hundred eight and half off of four twenties kroner per month, and a cell phone on which you can call home for two hundred four and half off three twenties kroner per month. What's that? What do you mean, you didn't understand? Which part was unclear?"

so in France I feign ignorance and use Belgian numbers.
In Denmark I would have to use English. That is the worst system I’ve ever read about.

Last night, I woke up at 345am and could not fall asleep, so I began counting backwards from 100 in German. That didn’t help. I then switched to Dutch. Didn’t help either. I guess they’re too similar to English. Maybe I should try doing Danish math...

And they start in with the craziness even sooner. Ogei twenty, Ogeta-amar (twenty-ten) is thirty, Berogei (two times twenty) is forty, Beirogeta-amar (two times twenty ten) is fifty, and so on.

The difference is that the whole Basque language is nuts, where Danish--outside of their numbers and their pronunciation--is pretty straightforward.

Neuk piskat Euskera aitxutendot ("I understand a little Basque" in the Bilbao dialect).

I love skiing there.... Love the little village at the base ..

Most people do the North in the AM and South in the PM

Remote and inoffensive.

Ideally it might be Belize. English speaking country with a lush tropical environment that would make this Floridian feel at home.

Don’t know what the employment or standard of living is like though.

Practically the obvious answer would be Canada. I hate cold weather though. But with climate change and all perhaps that wouldn’t be as big of a factor. I have heard British Columbia is slightly more temperate than the border areas so that would be where I probably would want to settle.

If I needed a place where I had family ties available, there’s Ukraine. Obviously the standard of living is lower and I would have to learn the language. But I absolutely loved visiting there last year and seeing the country and connecting with relatives.

living in Japan. I think living in Japan would be a difficult transition, but I think after the initial difficulties I would do okay there because of how much I revere so many aspects of their culture (except for their unrepentant and pointless whaling and the slaughter of dolphins in Taiji).

It's about as far away as you can get, but still technically be in the United States, and I could still use the Navy Exchange and Commissary.

Munich probably - or anywhere in Bavaria!

The trouble is that I would eventually get homesick and want to come back to the US. If I had to go somewhere and never return, it would be Canada. Either Ontario or farther east.

I've been to Ireland several times and I love it there. Good and friendly people, lovely land. Easy access to continental Europe and the UK. And English is one of the official languages. At my stage in life a little bit of continuity would help ease a major uprooting of my world.

Since first visiting there 45 years ago I've been jokingly telling people that I shoulda been born in Denmark (since it's hard to immigrate). Other EU countries would be fine, though. New Zealand sounds nice, or Canada. I'd prefer a place committed to quality of life: good public transportation, universal health care, well-regulated capitalism that does not encourage greed/predation/inequality, and without a deadly gun culture or global military footprint/vast MIC, etc.

Oh well...

I could be there in 20 minutes.

I've been to Nova Scotia and the beauty there could stop one's heart from beating. Met and talked with people in Halifax and hung out with some of them and you cannot find nicer people. Even the teenagers were polite and friendly to us and it seemed they weren't as materialistic as Americans. It's a slow, peaceful way of life and I tend to be a bit introverted so I'm fine with that.

I'd try to find something with an ocean view, far away from people. Should be possible there. I wouldn't mind a long drive to stores and shops.

Keys for me are beautiful countryside (ocean in this case), low population density, english speaking (I'm really bad with languages), relatively stable government.

then Spain because it's so beautiful and I know a little Spanish, then France because, well, it's France.

I live and work on an Indian Reservation
Sovereign land under tribal law for the most part

I killed 3 birds one stone in doing so
Left Trump country hell
Kept my job
Providing much needed healthcare to folks in need

Its cold up in these mountains this morning but I love it

the state of my country and the world.

And I've been telling Irish stories for 20+ years, so...(oh, and I do speak some Irish gaelic, so that's not an issue even in the gaeltacht)

You've heard of a spirit-animal? Germany is my spirit-country.

I don't have a drop of German blood, but I fell in love with the place from an early age: 2 or so. I lived there when my Dad was stationed there in the Army. I learned German in high school with the goal of joining the Army myself and being stationed there.

I was a tank crewman in Germany from 1989 to 1991, and loved every minute of it. I can't wait to go back someday...

husband is a dual citizen and has family there.

I already speak a little French and would pick it up fast.

I like the people. Standoffish but sincere. And I live to eat.

Would have said Switzerland but a meal there cost a week of pay! Most beautiful place I have visited.

Australia if they wouldn't. Why? Because I believe that they have the good parts that used to be America, without the idiots running the governments.

It is all academic. I will leave my current home feet first.

I'll never leave. This is my country. You must be well off to leave, and also not care about the US.

which lets be honest, reflects a sort of selfish demeanor

If I hadnt made my choice as above, I would pick somewhere where I could really make a difference. Burundi maybe

He is winning the contest

He wouldn't do all he does just to rub it in people's faces, either.

See post 58
Today there was a cluster outbreak on the Rez, again
Another one so for 2 coworkers dead
2 in hospital today 2 dozen positives. I know most of them
Tomorrow I go into th e clinic and fight it for the tribe
Again since March now. Non stop

I look at this thread and see quitters running and hiding

I aint holy just angry

I just watched a YouTube video instead of washing a leper's feet so I "lose," I guess.

Why wouldn’t they want to go somewhere with good benefits?

Most people fall for the fantasy that everything is free here in Germany, but if you are not a citizen, and do not work for a German employer, you get to pay your full taxes, but get zero benefits. No health care insurance, and no pension. Zip. Nada. They take 50% of your income and give you nothing in return. So why did I come here?

To stay with my wife, I would have gone to any of the four corners of the earth. That's why.

I’m not going anywhere either, but it’s fun to daydream about globetrotting.

Plus, I was able to do my job here, so no adjustment work-wise.

Not your typical case, I realize............

They seem to be like a more perfected version of America anyway.

We're already citizens and lived there for a couple of years earlier this century. We're working on renewing our Irish passports in case the worst happens.

But OH SO COLD.

Not sure I could do it. But I love my cousins.

Only for the premier league

Hobo

It really *is* as wonderful as it's made out to be.

Lived in Germany before. Canada, just cause. I adore Ireland. I can adapt.

My own country would be nice. I don't mean America, either. I mean my own personal little country.

Dare to dream.

Or at least visit. How are the beaches?

The country of Henry

President Wilson Spalding Titleist MacGregor. Henry, for short.

Land of the Pookies

Beautiful, clean beaches.

President Henry is a Pookie as are all citizens of Henry. Well, all but one.

However, in the dark shadows, bagging up soup, is Solly, ruler of all.

Solly is not a Pookie. Solly is a Josephine.

But friends call her eejit, heathen, and High Priestess of Cock and Bull.

She likes coffee.

So that leaves out England and Ireland, so I guess I would go to Australia.

things have changed massively in the past 30, 40 years, especially the past 20

But they have so many Indians, Italians, Orientals, you can live there now and never have to eat English food even once.

Ok, I'll give the place another try.

Still have warm, sweet beer?

Those old stories about British food are mostly about British food. Other places that speak lots of English are Sweden, Norway, Singapore, and Malaysia, but it might not be enough English.

A cottage in the countryside with no neighbors within sight, and a pub within walking distance would suit me well. Most everything agrees with me about the area.

I lived there when I was a kid and it very much stayed with me

I think I'd like to live like Hemingway for a while.

These days, I doubt even Hemingway could live like Hemingway did when he was there.

drunk and sandy.

When I was there, it was at the invitation of the government. There was definitely NO time for any of that Hemingway stuff. Although, come to think of it, their people DID stop to show me a café where Hemingway was supposed have hung out. Kind before my time, so I wouldn't know.

Friendly, progressive, nuke-free, military-style rifles outlawed after the tragic Christchurch shooting, beautiful country, and the people there fully appreciate what they have.

Japan, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Italy, UK, Canada, Uruguay, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Malaysia, Tunisia, France, Germany, Estonia, Tahiti, Iceland, Sweden, Portugal, Ireland.......

That sounds more like a $50,000 year long cruise!

Dream trip! (Post pandemic and Post lottery win!)

Where I live now. Where everybody knows my name. I’ve been all over the world, but always returned to paradise.

Has it retained all its charm ever Conchoscallopia separated into the Conch Republic and the Republic of Scallopia?

hanging over it. Conchs are tougher, and certainly charming as ever.

Where I would like to live? The UK, but they are having similar problems so I am not so sure that would be a wise choice. I love London, but it's very expensive, however York is very appealing to me. I would also consider the Irish republic, yet the problem with both of those countries is the weather. I have travelled in both and there is a lot of rain and gloom.

My next choice would be Vienna, where I lived as a student in college. I absolutely loved it there and have always wanted to retun. That country is in my heart and Vienna is in particular. I speak a small amount of German, but I am sure I could pick it up quickly if I lived there.

Lastly, I would go to the Netherlands or one of the Scandinavian countries. I would need to live in a liberal, democratic nation.

We visited there last year. Gorgeous. Mild climate, delicious food.

Alas, my children are here and we would never leave them behind.

I realize its a poorer country with many issues but my wife and I plan to retire in a fishing village down south of Vallarta on the Pacific coast. Wonderful people, wonderful weather, great place.

... I'll have to get a place in Florida, too.

Cheap like Costa Rica used to be (I lived there 5 years) friendly people and Medellin is beautiful, cheap with avg temp of 72.
Also not as dangerous as it used to be, Jamaica, the Bahamas and the US Virgin Is's all have a higher homicide rate now.
Also it's only a $300, 3-1/2hr flight on Spirit from Fla so I can return home to see relatives.

Temperate climate, friendly people, scenic land, delicious food, affordable.

However, in my heart I'd really prefer to live in the UK. The weather's not great but there's soooo much history.

We plan to retire in Germany.

Causton, Midsomer (also known as Wallingford in Oxfordshire) ... or ... Cotswold village Kembleford (also known as Gloucestershire village of Blockley).

I think I'd very much enjoy the slow pace village life and the English countryside. A small cozy cottage is all I need (and high-speed internet.)

When much of the U.S.A. is a smoldering ruin we'll probably be annexed by Canada or Mexico.

Where we are living now will be close to the new border any which way.