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Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:36 AM

College coaches are now saying they will NOT share Covid results once the

season starts. Lincoln Riley came right out and admitted it yesterday and Sweeney has pretty much stated the same. This is 100% bullshit and the presidents of these Universities AND the NCAA have to step in and correct this immediately.

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Reply College coaches are now saying they will NOT share Covid results once the (Original post)
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 OP
JT45242 Sep 2020 #1
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #2
crickets Sep 2020 #11
Hoyt Sep 2020 #3
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #5
czarjak Sep 2020 #4
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #6
fescuerescue Sep 2020 #7
Chiyo-chichi Sep 2020 #9
fescuerescue Sep 2020 #13
Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #17
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #18
Dr. Strange Sep 2020 #10
fescuerescue Sep 2020 #14
gibraltar72 Sep 2020 #8
Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #12
roamer65 Sep 2020 #15
Takket Sep 2020 #16
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #19
ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #22
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #23
ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #24
kairos12 Sep 2020 #20
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #21

Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:41 AM

1. Not shocking ...

Let's be honest. Sweeney only really cares about himself. If some of those players get sick and die but he gets a 'W' which leads to a bigger and better contract, he would be OK with that. (Just look at footage of guys who have played for him who were clearly concussed and not pulled from games). He is not alone, but I have seen more guys who looked concussed still play in Clemson games than any other team on TV the last few years.

The only way to make this safe is to take it out of the hands of the coaches who have a personal financial stake in keeping players on the field.

My real fear is that taking these teams traveling will become superspreader events as they infect travel personnel, hotel staff, etc. and then go back and spread in both communities.

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Response to JT45242 (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:54 AM

2. 100% True

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Response to JT45242 (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:58 AM

11. +1

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:55 AM

3. NCAA needs to issue a policy that all teams must release that info. I can understand a coach saying

he won't do it, unless all teams do.

If some college does not comply, they should be sanctioned tougher than just about any NCAA rule violation I can think of.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:01 AM

5. They MUST do this. This is NOT an injury, as is being stated. This is a pandemic level crisis

that affects many others than just the so-called "student athletes". The coaches are being self indulgent asswipes.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:01 AM

4. After Dabo won one game, he proclaimed...

“God is good”. Like it was a reward for him being so righteous.

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Response to czarjak (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:05 AM

6. He lost me when I saw him on the sideline berating his player for doing something

boneheaded. Yes, all coaches do it, but he seems to take special glee in letting these "plebes" know how low they are on the pecking order.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:11 AM

7. There are probably HIPPA concerns

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:45 AM

9. It's not really about HIPAA.

They were previously reporting along the lines of "we had 14 players test positive for COVID-19 this week." They weren't releasing names.
They're going to stop doing even that and treat COVID cases like injuries in terms of public disclosure. So if quarterback John Doe has tested positive, he'll just appear on the team's "injured reserved list" and they won't say anything about why.
The real question is... with teams likely doing testing internally... are their COVID cases still reported to the appropriate county and state health agencies? They should still do that even if they aren't telling the sports media "we had 11 new cases this week."
This is the DU member formerly known as Chiyo-chichi.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:55 AM

13. Right. However

If it's obviously inferred it can still be considered a HIPAA violation.

Perhaps it isn't. But it's expensive to defend those kind of lawsuits even if you win,.

There's alot of uncertainty these days around anything COVID

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:48 AM

17. It is NOT about HIPAA. Not even a little. You can verify this two ways.

1.) It is an absolute certainty that entire rooms full of lawyers have vetted this across dozens of organizations and institutions from high schools to professional hockey teams who DO release this non-PPI in the form of generic #'s of persons testing positive in the org.

2.) You can read this:
Permitted Uses and Disclosures

Permitted Uses and Disclosures. A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to use and disclose protected health information, without an individual’s authorization, for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities; and (6) Limited Data Set for the purposes of research, public health or health care operations.18 Covered entities may rely on professional ethics and best judgments in deciding which of these permissive uses and disclosures to make.


which can be found here: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/laws-regulations/index.html

The above explains how this information could be covered even if the information could be considered PPI. In such instances, the bare minimum of PPI is disclosed and any further disclosure is the decision of the patient/person. In this case, the positive test result.

Simply saying 3 players tested positive in a group of 125 players is in no way personally identifying that player. You would have to go much further such as giving the race, height, weight, position played, etc. in order to reasonably be considered having identified that patient. That is why simply releasing the number of positives on a team and on the support staff is NOT considered PPI.



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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:05 PM

18. +1

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:46 AM

10. I would think so.

Like HIPAA surely wouldn't allow them to release the names of specific students that have the virus. But maybe they could say something vague like, "Someone on the team has it."?

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:56 AM

14. Maybe.

And if that star player isn't playing and people with 2 brains cells connects the dots....

Then they get to defend against a lawsuit.

Lawyers will generally tell you the three rules of avoiding lawsuits. 1) Shutup. 2) Don't talk 3)Be quiet.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:14 AM

8. Make them sign that they are taking responsibility for the players.

I'm guessing they won't do that. Think I saw 69 deaths at colleges staff and athletes. That will rise.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

12. They've already been caught lying about them

Several Big Ten teams reported cases and had to suspend practice for 2 weeks because they were following CDC guidelines about quarantine. Michigan however, wasn't reporting cases, they were keeping it private until just a couple weeks ago when they announced they had had 11 cases since the players returned to workouts. Only problem with that is that they never suspended workouts or practices, so they kept them a secret so they didn't have to quarantine.

The coaches will lie, it's part of that culture.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:57 AM

15. I am hoping the Big Ten sticks with their season delay.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:02 AM

16. Reporting should be a condition of playing. No report, no games

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Response to Takket (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:07 PM

19. And the NCAA should step in and actually DO something for a change

it would be refreshing.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:49 PM

22. NCAA Is Toothless

College football runs itself.
Geez, the NCAA has nothing to do with the national champion!
They can make a statement, but if the schools choose to ignore them, nothing will happen.
They're powerless in football.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:52 PM

23. They are only powerless when they choose to be...if they want to tell a "student athlete"

that he can't transfer OR that he can't make 10 dollars for a signature, they are ALL IN.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #23)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:56 PM

24. Fair Enough

But, with college football programs, they're a nonentity.
They can &want" to exert power, but they'll be ignored!

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:21 PM

20. Having played FB in High School in Texas I always kept

the thought that coaches didn't give a rat's ass about the welfare of their players.

Coaches, especially college coaches, are athletic mafia bosses.

Sweeney is a rare POS with his evangelizing BS.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 03:30 PM

21. agree 100 %

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