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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCollege coaches are now saying they will NOT share Covid results once the
season starts. Lincoln Riley came right out and admitted it yesterday and Sweeney has pretty much stated the same. This is 100% bullshit and the presidents of these Universities AND the NCAA have to step in and correct this immediately.
JT45242
(2,237 posts)Let's be honest. Sweeney only really cares about himself. If some of those players get sick and die but he gets a 'W' which leads to a bigger and better contract, he would be OK with that. (Just look at footage of guys who have played for him who were clearly concussed and not pulled from games). He is not alone, but I have seen more guys who looked concussed still play in Clemson games than any other team on TV the last few years.
The only way to make this safe is to take it out of the hands of the coaches who have a personal financial stake in keeping players on the field.
My real fear is that taking these teams traveling will become superspreader events as they infect travel personnel, hotel staff, etc. and then go back and spread in both communities.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)he won't do it, unless all teams do.
If some college does not comply, they should be sanctioned tougher than just about any NCAA rule violation I can think of.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)that affects many others than just the so-called "student athletes". The coaches are being self indulgent asswipes.
czarjak
(11,246 posts)God is good. Like it was a reward for him being so righteous.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)boneheaded. Yes, all coaches do it, but he seems to take special glee in letting these "plebes" know how low they are on the pecking order.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Chiyo-chichi
(3,572 posts)They were previously reporting along the lines of "we had 14 players test positive for COVID-19 this week." They weren't releasing names.
They're going to stop doing even that and treat COVID cases like injuries in terms of public disclosure. So if quarterback John Doe has tested positive, he'll just appear on the team's "injured reserved list" and they won't say anything about why.
The real question is... with teams likely doing testing internally... are their COVID cases still reported to the appropriate county and state health agencies? They should still do that even if they aren't telling the sports media "we had 11 new cases this week."
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)If it's obviously inferred it can still be considered a HIPAA violation.
Perhaps it isn't. But it's expensive to defend those kind of lawsuits even if you win,.
There's alot of uncertainty these days around anything COVID
Maru Kitteh
(28,313 posts)1.) It is an absolute certainty that entire rooms full of lawyers have vetted this across dozens of organizations and institutions from high schools to professional hockey teams who DO release this non-PPI in the form of generic #'s of persons testing positive in the org.
2.) You can read this:
Permitted Uses and Disclosures
Permitted Uses and Disclosures. A covered entity is permitted, but not required, to use and disclose protected health information, without an individuals authorization, for the following purposes or situations: (1) To the Individual (unless required for access or accounting of disclosures); (2) Treatment, Payment, and Health Care Operations; (3) Opportunity to Agree or Object; (4) Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure; (5) Public Interest and Benefit Activities; and (6) Limited Data Set for the purposes of research, public health or health care operations.18 Covered entities may rely on professional ethics and best judgments in deciding which of these permissive uses and disclosures to make.
which can be found here: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/laws-regulations/index.html
The above explains how this information could be covered even if the information could be considered PPI. In such instances, the bare minimum of PPI is disclosed and any further disclosure is the decision of the patient/person. In this case, the positive test result.
Simply saying 3 players tested positive in a group of 125 players is in no way personally identifying that player. You would have to go much further such as giving the race, height, weight, position played, etc. in order to reasonably be considered having identified that patient. That is why simply releasing the number of positives on a team and on the support staff is NOT considered PPI.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,915 posts)Like HIPAA surely wouldn't allow them to release the names of specific students that have the virus. But maybe they could say something vague like, "Someone on the team has it."?
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)And if that star player isn't playing and people with 2 brains cells connects the dots....
Then they get to defend against a lawsuit.
Lawyers will generally tell you the three rules of avoiding lawsuits. 1) Shutup. 2) Don't talk 3)Be quiet.
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)I'm guessing they won't do that. Think I saw 69 deaths at colleges staff and athletes. That will rise.
Johnny2X2X
(18,967 posts)Several Big Ten teams reported cases and had to suspend practice for 2 weeks because they were following CDC guidelines about quarantine. Michigan however, wasn't reporting cases, they were keeping it private until just a couple weeks ago when they announced they had had 11 cases since the players returned to workouts. Only problem with that is that they never suspended workouts or practices, so they kept them a secret so they didn't have to quarantine.
The coaches will lie, it's part of that culture.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Takket
(21,526 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)it would be refreshing.
ProfessorGAC
(64,826 posts)College football runs itself.
Geez, the NCAA has nothing to do with the national champion!
They can make a statement, but if the schools choose to ignore them, nothing will happen.
They're powerless in football.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)that he can't transfer OR that he can't make 10 dollars for a signature, they are ALL IN.
ProfessorGAC
(64,826 posts)But, with college football programs, they're a nonentity.
They can &want" to exert power, but they'll be ignored!
kairos12
(12,841 posts)the thought that coaches didn't give a rat's ass about the welfare of their players.
Coaches, especially college coaches, are athletic mafia bosses.
Sweeney is a rare POS with his evangelizing BS.