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So, let me see if I've got this right...if a journalist doesn't spill the beans (Original Post) Sogo Sep 2020 OP
Not at all BUT the journalist is now complicit with the outcome beachbumbob Sep 2020 #1
I see that as deflection from the real issue. Sogo Sep 2020 #7
Yes, the classic gaslight.... mitch96 Sep 2020 #15
Trump leads a cult. mzmolly Sep 2020 #18
Oh please!! You really think a tell all book would have made a difference when no one wanted to Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #20
If the journalist spilled the beans, he wouldn't have gotten 18 interviews, and other confessions. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #25
As I have pointed out in other threads . . . . markpkessinger Sep 2020 #26
Exactly! MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #2
Evidently Bob Woodward Montelimar Sep 2020 #3
Bingo. Sogo Sep 2020 #4
Yes, he's been elevated to co president status by some deeply misguided folks. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #17
What if the president isnt doing the job and the journalist knows it? GusBob Sep 2020 #5
The President STILL isn't doing his job. Sogo Sep 2020 #9
Its September Not March GusBob Sep 2020 #10
Hillary said time and again that dotard was not up to the task. Should we bash her again too?? Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #21
With the help of DU - yes lame54 Sep 2020 #6
No. It means the journalist lacks integrity by withholding such boston bean Sep 2020 #8
tRumpian "logic" No beans no spilling. IllinoisBirdWatcher Sep 2020 #11
That's the faux news spin backtoblue Sep 2020 #12
This!! These kinds of continued hits knock dotard off his narrative. Timing is everything Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #23
If he does "spill the beans"... orwell Sep 2020 #13
That's what I'm reading here. Can't say it seems sane to me, though. Or even slightly ethical. Squinch Sep 2020 #14
Apparently so BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #16
Is it really so hard to understand? aidbo Sep 2020 #19
Who is saying "excusing"? UTUSN Sep 2020 #22
Keep the pressure and the blame on trump, for now. Paladin Sep 2020 #24
What I don't get.. Ani Yun Wiya Sep 2020 #27
I don't believe Woodward is at fault. Sogo Sep 2020 #28

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
7. I see that as deflection from the real issue.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM
Sep 2020

That's how Trump ALWAYS gets off.....i.e. point the finger at someone else.

What Woodward did or didn't do is really beside the point....IMHO....





mzmolly

(50,978 posts)
18. Trump leads a cult.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:51 PM
Sep 2020

If the outcome is election loss for Trump, the journalist in question, spared us more death and destruction.

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
20. Oh please!! You really think a tell all book would have made a difference when no one wanted to
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:23 PM
Sep 2020

Listen to the experts??

Stop!!

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
26. As I have pointed out in other threads . . . .
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:35 PM
Sep 2020

. . . Woodward was most likely contractually barred from disclosing details from the book prior to its release. Publishing is a business, and publishers know how to protect and maximize their investment. It is a virtual certainty that they would have included a clause barring such disclosures in their contract with Woodward. And if you think he should have gone ahead and breached it, that's easy to say when you aren't the one facing liability for lost book sales, as well as legal fees (your own AND the publisher's, should you lose the breach of contract suit that would most surely be filed).

 

Montelimar

(83 posts)
3. Evidently Bob Woodward
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

was on the 2016 ballot, is an epidemiologist, has as much power as the president and the federal government.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. What if the president isnt doing the job and the journalist knows it?
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

Woodward himself is now saying trump aint up to the task

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
10. Its September Not March
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:58 PM
Sep 2020

The election will not solve the problems of this past Spring

Trump losing the election will not bring back the dead

boston bean

(36,218 posts)
8. No. It means the journalist lacks integrity by withholding such
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM
Sep 2020

Important information which they are to provide to the public so they can earn money from a book.

This is life and death shit. Not some scoop about corruption.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
11. tRumpian "logic" No beans no spilling.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:00 PM
Sep 2020

If it took Woodward months to find the exact tree which fell in the woods, then did the tree really fall?

tRump says no. So simple (for simple-minded people).

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
12. That's the faux news spin
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

The crisis and direlection of duty is squarely on 45s shoulders.


He owns this.


A reporter that releases info late is a MILLION times a better person than the people who know 45 is a treasonous bas6ard, yet still remain silent.

Jmho

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
23. This!! These kinds of continued hits knock dotard off his narrative. Timing is everything
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:28 PM
Sep 2020

In the meantime the election grows closer and closer and he has no time to make up any ground.

Spinning this saying Woodward was or is in any responsible is exactly what dotard wants..

orwell

(7,769 posts)
13. If he does "spill the beans"...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

...he is a dishonorable traitor.

If you are a whistleblower, even if proven right, you are a "disgruntled deep state operative."

See how easy that is.

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”George Orwell

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
19. Is it really so hard to understand?
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

The president should have responded more effectively and told the American people the truth.
And the journalist should have told the American people that the president was lying to them when he knew, not delay the information for months in order to keep from undercutting his book sales.
Only the lying president and his staff are trying to spin it the way you present it.
Simple stuff.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
24. Keep the pressure and the blame on trump, for now.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

We can deal with Woodward's judgment and complicity, down the line. After we've driven the evil monster from the White House.

Ani Yun Wiya

(797 posts)
27. What I don't get..
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 03:51 PM
Sep 2020

is why Woodward is at fault. After all the crucial information was online as early as mid December and by mid January many other nations had acted upon the severity of the circumstance that the entire world was affected by.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
28. I don't believe Woodward is at fault.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:17 PM
Sep 2020

Trump took the information and the actions that the rest of the world took and flipped it all on its head. Why? Because HE was panicked that the stock market would tank and that, along with the COVID numbers, would sink his chances for re-election. In short, once again he thought he could con his way out of the situation, with the assistance of Fox News.

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