Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:42 AM
marmar (72,183 posts)
Scientists baffled by orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal![]() (Guardian UK) Scientists have been left baffled by incidents of orcas ramming sailing boats along the Spanish and Portuguese coasts. In the last two months, from southern to northern Spain, sailors have sent distress calls after worrying encounters. Two boats lost part of their rudders, at least one crew member suffered bruising from the impact of the ramming, and several boats sustained serious damage. The latest incident occurred on Friday afternoon just off A Coruña, on the northern coast of Spain. Halcyon Yachts was taking a 36ft boat to the UK when an orca rammed its stern at least 15 times, according to Pete Green, the company’s managing director. The boat lost steering and was towed into port to assess damage. Around the same time there were radio warnings of orca sightings 70 miles south, at Vigo, near the site of at least two recent collisions. On 30 August, a French-flagged vessel radioed the coastguard to say it was “under attack” from killer whales. Later that day, a Spanish naval yacht, Mirfak, lost part of its rudder after an encounter with orcas under the stern. ..........(more) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/13/killer-whales-launch-orchestrated-attacks-on-sailing-boats
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marmar | Sep 2020 | OP |
LiberalFighter | Sep 2020 | #1 | |
HAB911 | Sep 2020 | #2 | |
rockfordfile | Sep 2020 | #17 | |
ffr | Sep 2020 | #3 | |
malaise | Sep 2020 | #4 | |
2naSalit | Sep 2020 | #6 | |
Loki Liesmith | Sep 2020 | #11 | |
CatWoman | Sep 2020 | #21 | |
Golden Raisin | Sep 2020 | #5 | |
2naSalit | Sep 2020 | #7 | |
Loki Liesmith | Sep 2020 | #12 | |
MoonRiver | Sep 2020 | #8 | |
Loki Liesmith | Sep 2020 | #13 | |
ihas2stinkyfeet | Sep 2020 | #9 | |
Loki Liesmith | Sep 2020 | #14 | |
ihas2stinkyfeet | Sep 2020 | #15 | |
mitch96 | Sep 2020 | #10 | |
Brother Buzz | Sep 2020 | #18 | |
spanone | Sep 2020 | #16 | |
Brother Buzz | Sep 2020 | #19 | |
EX500rider | Sep 2020 | #20 | |
DSandra | Sep 2020 | #22 | |
sanatanadharma | Sep 2020 | #23 |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:48 AM
LiberalFighter (41,144 posts)
1. Were the boaters listening to a Trump speech?
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:49 AM
HAB911 (6,359 posts)
2. Payback? Karma?
Response to HAB911 (Reply #2)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:37 PM
rockfordfile (6,351 posts)
17. sounds like it
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:50 AM
ffr (19,758 posts)
3. Weird
Even wildlife is fed up with human overpopulation. Their already losing the battle. I suppose some of the stronger ones have decided they might as well go down with a fight.
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Response to ffr (Reply #3)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:52 AM
malaise (223,683 posts)
4. Not just overpopulation
How we relate to every other species - we are monsters
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Response to malaise (Reply #4)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:12 PM
Loki Liesmith (4,284 posts)
11. We are not monsters
We’re just the most powerful force this planet has ever seen. Our instincts are just he same as every other mammalian species. We’re just better at getting what we want.
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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #11)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:08 PM
CatWoman (75,310 posts)
21. i.e., monsters
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:56 AM
Golden Raisin (4,149 posts)
5. Sick of our garbage, pollution and plastic
in their world?
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:59 AM
2naSalit (47,392 posts)
7. Sick and tired of boats and the people in them.
Can't say I blame them. And, maybe they will eventually get eat some if they manage to break up a boat. They are very intelligent beings, and they know who is to blame for all the trash in the oceans.
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #7)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:12 PM
Loki Liesmith (4,284 posts)
12. I guarantee they don't know that and don't care.
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:02 PM
MoonRiver (34,925 posts)
8. Are they hearing sonar there?
That makes all marine mammals crazy, not to mention deaf.
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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #8)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:13 PM
Loki Liesmith (4,284 posts)
13. My guess is it's something like that
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 PM
ihas2stinkyfeet (1,400 posts)
9. thus proving that science education beats the creativity out of too many scientists.
Response to ihas2stinkyfeet (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:15 PM
Loki Liesmith (4,284 posts)
14. Lolwut
Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #14)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
ihas2stinkyfeet (1,400 posts)
15. well, then you are missing half the fun.
i'm here to match wits be my elders and betters.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14067159 |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:13 PM
mitch96 (7,213 posts)
10. Ahhh Shades of Moby Dick..... Take THAT you plastic POS!!!!
This should be interesting to see why they are doing this... My guess is a territorial. They see the "big white thing" as something moving in on their piece of ocean...YMMV
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #10)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:40 PM
Brother Buzz (28,774 posts)
18. Or shades of the Essex
Essex was an American whaler from Nantucket, Massachusetts, which was launched in 1799. In 1820, while at sea in the southern Pacific Ocean under the command of Captain George Pollard Jr., she was attacked and sunk by a sperm whale.
It was Herman Melville's inspiration for Moby-Dick In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick is an excellent read ![]() But so is this Smithsonian article: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-true-life-horror-that-inspired-moby-dick-17576/ |
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:26 PM
spanone (125,126 posts)
16. They've had it with humans
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:02 PM
Brother Buzz (28,774 posts)
19. The sailing community will tell you it's because sailboats don't make noise
Sailboats have been striking whales forever because the don't make noise and are able to drive over them without warning. Cetaceans have long memories, I guess.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:06 PM
EX500rider (6,509 posts)
20. Not new to anyone who read "Survive the Savage Sea"
In June 1972, the 43-foor schooner Lucette was attacked by killer whales and sank in 60 seconds.
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Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:17 PM
DSandra (743 posts)
22. Mother Nature is Angry
Response to marmar (Original post)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:29 PM
sanatanadharma (852 posts)
23. Orcas are conscious beings
Orcas are conscious beings. They have awareness, communication, knowledge of their (largely unknown to humans) world.
Orcas know which species is destroying their world. Humans need the wisdom of the wild to tame the bestiality of humans. |