HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Scientists baffled by orc...

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:42 AM

Scientists baffled by orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal




(Guardian UK) Scientists have been left baffled by incidents of orcas ramming sailing boats along the Spanish and Portuguese coasts.

In the last two months, from southern to northern Spain, sailors have sent distress calls after worrying encounters. Two boats lost part of their rudders, at least one crew member suffered bruising from the impact of the ramming, and several boats sustained serious damage.

The latest incident occurred on Friday afternoon just off A Coruña, on the northern coast of Spain. Halcyon Yachts was taking a 36ft boat to the UK when an orca rammed its stern at least 15 times, according to Pete Green, the company’s managing director. The boat lost steering and was towed into port to assess damage.

Around the same time there were radio warnings of orca sightings 70 miles south, at Vigo, near the site of at least two recent collisions. On 30 August, a French-flagged vessel radioed the coastguard to say it was “under attack” from killer whales. Later that day, a Spanish naval yacht, Mirfak, lost part of its rudder after an encounter with orcas under the stern. ..........(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/13/killer-whales-launch-orchestrated-attacks-on-sailing-boats




23 replies, 906 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 23 replies Author Time Post
Reply Scientists baffled by orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal (Original post)
marmar Sep 2020 OP
LiberalFighter Sep 2020 #1
HAB911 Sep 2020 #2
rockfordfile Sep 2020 #17
ffr Sep 2020 #3
malaise Sep 2020 #4
2naSalit Sep 2020 #6
Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #11
CatWoman Sep 2020 #21
Golden Raisin Sep 2020 #5
2naSalit Sep 2020 #7
Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #12
MoonRiver Sep 2020 #8
Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #13
ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #9
Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #14
ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #15
mitch96 Sep 2020 #10
Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #18
spanone Sep 2020 #16
Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #19
EX500rider Sep 2020 #20
DSandra Sep 2020 #22
sanatanadharma Sep 2020 #23

Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:48 AM

1. Were the boaters listening to a Trump speech?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:49 AM

2. Payback? Karma?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to HAB911 (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:37 PM

17. sounds like it

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:50 AM

3. Weird

Even wildlife is fed up with human overpopulation. Their already losing the battle. I suppose some of the stronger ones have decided they might as well go down with a fight.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ffr (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:52 AM

4. Not just overpopulation

How we relate to every other species - we are monsters

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:57 AM

6. +1

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:12 PM

11. We are not monsters

We’re just the most powerful force this planet has ever seen. Our instincts are just he same as every other mammalian species. We’re just better at getting what we want.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:08 PM

21. i.e., monsters

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:56 AM

5. Sick of our garbage, pollution and plastic

in their world?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:59 AM

7. Sick and tired of boats and the people in them.

Can't say I blame them. And, maybe they will eventually get eat some if they manage to break up a boat. They are very intelligent beings, and they know who is to blame for all the trash in the oceans.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2naSalit (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:12 PM

12. I guarantee they don't know that and don't care.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:02 PM

8. Are they hearing sonar there?

That makes all marine mammals crazy, not to mention deaf.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MoonRiver (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:13 PM

13. My guess is it's something like that

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

9. thus proving that science education beats the creativity out of too many scientists.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ihas2stinkyfeet (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:15 PM

14. Lolwut

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:25 PM

15. well, then you are missing half the fun.

 

i'm here to match wits be my elders and betters.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14067159

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:13 PM

10. Ahhh Shades of Moby Dick..... Take THAT you plastic POS!!!!

This should be interesting to see why they are doing this... My guess is a territorial. They see the "big white thing" as something moving in on their piece of ocean...YMMV
m

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mitch96 (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:40 PM

18. Or shades of the Essex

Essex was an American whaler from Nantucket, Massachusetts, which was launched in 1799. In 1820, while at sea in the southern Pacific Ocean under the command of Captain George Pollard Jr., she was attacked and sunk by a sperm whale.

It was Herman Melville's inspiration for Moby-Dick



In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick is an excellent read



But so is this Smithsonian article:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-true-life-horror-that-inspired-moby-dick-17576/

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:26 PM

16. They've had it with humans

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:02 PM

19. The sailing community will tell you it's because sailboats don't make noise

Sailboats have been striking whales forever because the don't make noise and are able to drive over them without warning. Cetaceans have long memories, I guess.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:06 PM

20. Not new to anyone who read "Survive the Savage Sea"

In June 1972, the 43-foor schooner Lucette was attacked by killer whales and sank in 60 seconds.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:17 PM

22. Mother Nature is Angry

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:29 PM

23. Orcas are conscious beings

Orcas are conscious beings. They have awareness, communication, knowledge of their (largely unknown to humans) world.

Orcas know which species is destroying their world.

Humans need the wisdom of the wild to tame the bestiality of humans.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread