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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:20 PM Jan 2012

NYT's Bill Keller: Obama-Clinton 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/opinion/keller-just-the-ticket.html

... Hillary Clinton is 64 years old, with a Calvinist work ethic, the stamina of an Olympian, an E.Q. to match her I.Q., and the political instincts of a Clinton. She has an impressive empathic ability — invaluable in politics or statecraft — to imagine how the world looks to an ally or adversary. She listens, and she learns from her mistakes. She was a perfectly plausible president four years ago, and that was before she demonstrated her gifts as a diplomatic snake-charmer. (Never mind Pakistan and Libya, I’m talking about the Obama White House.) She is, says Gallup, the most admired woman in America for the 10th year in a row, laps ahead of, in order, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Sarah Palin and Condoleezza Rice; her approval rating of 64 percent is the highest of any political figure in the country.

... The proposal to draft her in place of Obama this year is preposterous. It exaggerates the president’s vulnerability and discounts Hillary’s loyalty. But the idea that she should replace Joe Biden as Obama’s running mate in 2012 is something else. It has been kicking around on the blogs for more than a year without getting any traction, mainly because it has been authoritatively, emphatically dismissed by Hillary, Biden and Team Obama.

It’s time to take it seriously.

I know the arguments against this scenario, and we’ll get to those. But the arguments in favor are as simple as one-two-three. One: it does more to guarantee Obama’s re-election than anything else the Democrats can do. Two: it improves the chances that, come next January, he will not be a lame duck with a gridlocked Congress but a rejuvenated president with a mandate and a Congress that may be a little less forbidding. Three: it makes Hillary the party’s heir apparent in 2016. If she sits out politics for the next four years, other Democrats (yes, Governor Cuomo, we see your hand up) will fill the void.
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NYT's Bill Keller: Obama-Clinton 2012 (Original Post) Newsjock Jan 2012 OP
Not this shit again. JTFrog Jan 2012 #1
+Yeah. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #2
Changing my avatar back as inspired by this post treestar Jan 2012 #4
Nice avatar! pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #9
who exactly will she attract more of if she were VP? Whisp Jan 2012 #3
Well, I really like Hillary... Joe Biden, as well... hlthe2b Jan 2012 #5
In my opinion it is a bad idea Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #6
Dead Horse Writes Column in Dead Horse Times A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2012 #7
If Hillary was that popular and liked, why didn't she win? Whisp Jan 2012 #8
I think I'll just observe this time. BootinUp Jan 2012 #10
Oh fer fuck's sake CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #11
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
1. Not this shit again.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jan 2012

He already asked Biden. Biden accepted.

It's what's best. Get the fuck over it already.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
2. +Yeah.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jan 2012

I had to explain this all to my husband, again, because he heard a rumor that she would be his running mate.

Stop confusing the blonde guy, please.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. Changing my avatar back as inspired by this post
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jan 2012

I guess there will be another such post as the OP in 2.4 days.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. who exactly will she attract more of if she were VP?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jan 2012

I just don't understand this part. What she will do is get the RW even more nuts and hot and bothered with their insanity than they are even now. Obama has a good and solid loyality among Democrats so to put Hillary in just to appease some disgruntled PUMAs seems like not such a good idea.

hlthe2b

(101,715 posts)
5. Well, I really like Hillary... Joe Biden, as well...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

At least if NYT is speculating on Hillary's future, it is positive. A nice change from so many Dem-related stories lately and the 24/7 fixation with the morons on the RW.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
7. Dead Horse Writes Column in Dead Horse Times
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:09 AM
Jan 2012

pleading with all Dead-Horse-Beaters to please the fuck stop.

Or, you know, not.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
8. If Hillary was that popular and liked, why didn't she win?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jan 2012

:brings out abacas:

something don't add up

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
11. Oh fer fuck's sake
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:30 AM
Jan 2012

It improves the chances that he will be a "rejuvenated president with a mandate"?

How the hell does it do THAT???

And if people are chomping at the bit to see Hillary in 2016, making her VP isn't going to change that. If she's a shoo-in, she's a shoo-in.

So dumb.




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