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elleng

(130,156 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:15 PM Sep 2020

Trump voter to Biden: Excuse me, if I could finish ...

During a CNN town hall with Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, a small business owner and 2016 Trump voter asks Biden about decreasing regulatory burdens for farmers and small business owners.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/09/17/joe-biden-pennsylvania-cnn-town-hall-interrupt-trump-voter-sot-3-vpx.cnn?fbclid=IwAR21ibYCLK6I86J-oKymhY55vRZaZDPlfxX6eFc-D5k-U4uUU00J0e53vqs

She was a plant. She was just appointed to a USDA committee (the Fruit and Vegetable Industry Advisory Committee) by Trump Administration on July 20, 2020.

I've learned: Julie’s farm - from 1995 to 2019 - received $1,169,107 in farm subsidies from US taxpayers.
That’s an average of $48,712 a year, or $4,059 a month. From taxpayers.
Julie - you took a million dollars from us and bitch about clean water and energy proposals that have zero impact.
So, can we have our money back?

He did OK, given the circumstances, imo.

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Trump voter to Biden: Excuse me, if I could finish ... (Original Post) elleng Sep 2020 OP
I was listening to CNN in the car DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #1
He snarked at her about how she felt about her vote now sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #4
I do remember HEARING that DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #5
Ditto. She did not seem to project warmth towards him so i knew something was off about her onetexan Sep 2020 #31
She looked like a deer in headlights vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #2
but he was always the gentleman and said im sorry excuse me and let her finish.. samnsara Sep 2020 #3
I did notice her little smirk when Biden asked her now how she felt of her 2016 Trump vote. aeromanKC Sep 2020 #6
All she cares about is that her president beats up on black and brown people. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #11
Possibly. We could give her the benefit of the doubt. Or not. Caliman73 Sep 2020 #7
That's huge! Where'd you find the info on her farm and the corporate welfare she received? OneBro Sep 2020 #8
it is ag "welfare" (some is actually socially and environmentally beneficial, by the way) Kali Sep 2020 #16
Thanks, but you'd still need a name to do a search. None of the info was in the video. OneBro Sep 2020 #23
ah, sorry Kali Sep 2020 #28
Good detective work Ohioboy Sep 2020 #32
I knew there was a database but couldn't remember who did it Kali Sep 2020 #34
Now THAT is some A+ research! Thank you! OneBro Sep 2020 #35
The CNN video has no visual. It's a black screen underpants Sep 2020 #9
You could tell she was a Trumper hamsterjill Sep 2020 #10
The small farms are getting killed because there isn't enough regulation to rain in the corporate yaesu Sep 2020 #12
Ag subsidies... czarjak Sep 2020 #13
When a questioner suggests regulations are burdensome, I wish candidates would ask for specifics Raven123 Sep 2020 #14
I've always thought the same thing! mtngirl47 Sep 2020 #15
Anytime someone says REGULATIONS, I say PROTECTIONS ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #24
Mostly this, I'm guessing gratuitous Sep 2020 #17
Simple........... MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #26
Corporate buyers of farmer's products go on to waste those products Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #18
They made that last-minute decision to put that shill out there, after "God bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #19
He was sharp! jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #20
eggscllent. ding ding. AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #21
Boycott Sterman Masser products! Buy local!! Ziggysmom Sep 2020 #22
A troll marieo1 Sep 2020 #25
Full Town Hall Mick Travis Sep 2020 #27
Good question Ohioboy Sep 2020 #30
Wow! Excellent response from Joe Biden! Ohioboy Sep 2020 #29
it was obvious she had rehearsed well for the moment. peacebuzzard Sep 2020 #33

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
1. I was listening to CNN in the car
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:17 PM
Sep 2020

He did fine. She had no further response from what I remember.

Joe was masterful in detail and compassion. I was totally impressed at his command of the facts and laws.

sweetloukillbot

(10,814 posts)
4. He snarked at her about how she felt about her vote now
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

She looked PISSED when he said that and didn't answer. I knew she was a plant at that moment.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
5. I do remember HEARING that
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

But I guess watching it gave a totally different perspective. Substantively and in every other way, he handled it well.

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
31. Ditto. She did not seem to project warmth towards him so i knew something was off about her
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 05:13 PM
Sep 2020

and figured most likely she's a trumper.

vercetti2021

(10,150 posts)
2. She looked like a deer in headlights
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:18 PM
Sep 2020

After he answered her question. It looked like her tiny brain imploded

samnsara

(17,570 posts)
3. but he was always the gentleman and said im sorry excuse me and let her finish..
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020

...that was great. When trump was taking questions and had that same thing happen to him he just glared like a little kid who got caught

aeromanKC

(3,307 posts)
6. I did notice her little smirk when Biden asked her now how she felt of her 2016 Trump vote.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:27 PM
Sep 2020

It didn't matter what Biden answered for her, she was a MAGAt. You could tell from her little smirk. But yet Biden then went on to give specifics on chickens and methane gas. No way Trump could give her a specific fact filled answer. But she doesn't care about that. She gets #Fail

SunSeeker

(51,377 posts)
11. All she cares about is that her president beats up on black and brown people.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:10 PM
Sep 2020

Once Trump stops doing that, he'll be dead to his base, and he knows it.

Caliman73

(11,694 posts)
7. Possibly. We could give her the benefit of the doubt. Or not.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

I think Biden handled that pretty damn well. First, he apologized for interrupting, which is what a polite human being would do. Second, he had a real, clear, tangible answer about how to BOTH protect the environment, possibly grow industry, and help farmers deal with increased costs that MAYBE are associated with those environmental protection needs.

I might have asked...What specific regulations do you feel are burdening you? and tried to boil down her motives for asking.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
16. it is ag "welfare" (some is actually socially and environmentally beneficial, by the way)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:28 PM
Sep 2020

but subsidies, grants, and other programs are public info available on the USDA website among other places.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
23. Thanks, but you'd still need a name to do a search. None of the info was in the video.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:28 PM
Sep 2020

Thus, my original question.

Kali

(54,990 posts)
28. ah, sorry
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:57 PM
Sep 2020

they introduce her at the beginning of the video but it is a little hard to understand her last name. Mosserbali or something like that, and they say she is a new appointee to the Fruit and Veg Industry Advisory Committee, looking that up I see her name is actually Julie Masser Ballay and her farm/company is Sterman Masser Inc.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/NEW_FVIAC_2020thru2022_Member_Roster.pdf

googling the name + farm subsidies I get this - https://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=42043&progcode=totalfarm #6 which gives about half what the OP says so a little more looking might be in order, sometimes farms put different entities in different names, or family members own different parts etc

Kali

(54,990 posts)
34. I knew there was a database but couldn't remember who did it
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

I'm even in it (as were my parents) for a couple of payments back in the 90s for cost share on infrastructure that was linked to better managing rangelands to control erosion and water quality. but it was running slow for me today (or maybe it was my computer) so I didn't search further.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
10. You could tell she was a Trumper
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:47 PM
Sep 2020

I would have known without a word coming out of her smug mouth.

Thanks for the additional info. Do you happen to have a link for that so I can share it?

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
12. The small farms are getting killed because there isn't enough regulation to rain in the corporate
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:12 PM
Sep 2020

conglomerate mega farms, driving down prices.

Raven123

(4,716 posts)
14. When a questioner suggests regulations are burdensome, I wish candidates would ask for specifics
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:15 PM
Sep 2020

Specifically, which regulations concern you?
How have they impacted you?

mtngirl47

(985 posts)
15. I've always thought the same thing!
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:22 PM
Sep 2020

When people bring up regulations to me.....I say well I'm happy the state regulates my water system, that way you have clean water when you're visiting me. I think the state regulating my swimming pool is reasonable and it protects me from possible lawsuits. I'm glad the state has regulations about signage on the highway, I'd rather look at mountains than signs any day!

Most of them start blubbering--shocked that a business owner isn't complaining about government regulations!

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
24. Anytime someone says REGULATIONS, I say PROTECTIONS ...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:35 PM
Sep 2020

My RW ex-friend works in the mortgage industry and constantly complains about
the REGULATIONS they have to abide by after the mortgage meltdown.

I always reply, "you mean the PROTECTIONS that were implemented so that we don't get taken advantage of?"

Backseat Driver

(4,339 posts)
18. Corporate buyers of farmer's products go on to waste those products
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:39 PM
Sep 2020

when they don't quality check the cleanliness of their processing machinery. It's a trait of the lazy and cheap labor personhoods and monopolies of the food processing giant corporations that don't want to find solutions. Then our farmers and the public pay the price of tariffs so impulsively installed in policy without a thought about the waste that creates painful choices on the farm.

Farmers continue, for convenience and profit's sake, to use insecticides and herbicides that impact the quality of their own soil, the nutritional potential of their soil and actually plan via the fudge factors involved in cruelty and waste concerning the natural lives of what becomes of their animal products and their labor force that is just beginning their American experience.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian, but the benefits of unadulterated whole food plant-food-based diets are becoming more widely accepted. It's why I've tried as my budget allows, to support my smaller, local farmers and growers that support best organic and cruelty-free practices for great wholesome and tasty products that may be still be impacted by changes in EPA disinterest in climate change as far as being pro-fossil-fuel permissive by EOs and legislation under the current LUNATIC leadership is concerned; therefore, farmers deserve more governmental support in protections from both pollution and many of the "better life through chemistry megacorporations" visions that are solely for profit. Unfortunately, that can be a tangled web of deceits without oversight.

Done right, this will also create new jobs also growing at the agricultural level and with price support for farmers willing to take the plunge during what must necessarily be a hard transition away from dependence on fossil fuels and chemical feed additives like antibiotics and hormones and chemicals used in and on the field for control of weeds and bugs. We have to start listening to enlightened economists and the public who can create demand for better practices that produce excellent products at the right price as well as creative programs that build better health for those at lower incomes, the poor, and the needy. We waste so much potential in our country, and our children's nutrition, health, and education depend on solutions we can create!

Art is beautiful in its creation and should not just gain expensive dollar value when it has provenance; science can also be celebrated for its revelations that improve living conditions on this planet; however, corporate science that is merely concerned with uber-wealth and profit is ugly and threatens purposeful American lives in endless bias and crime.

We absolutely need to BUILD BACK BETTER in every respect.

bullwinkle428

(20,627 posts)
19. They made that last-minute decision to put that shill out there, after "God
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

Emperor" got completely humiliated by the AA lady that essentially told him to STFU until she finished her question a couple of nights ago.

Ziggysmom

(3,374 posts)
22. Boycott Sterman Masser products! Buy local!!
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:18 PM
Sep 2020

They sell under these brands:
Penns Own
Heartland
Side Delights
Blue Denim
Basin Gold and Sun Supreme Onions

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
25. A troll
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:38 PM
Sep 2020

She was a Troll..........anyone could tell she was one of 'those'. President Biden was more than kind to her.

Mick Travis

(106 posts)
27. Full Town Hall
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:41 PM
Sep 2020

Why can't I find videos of the complete town hall? Every word Trump utters is on Youtube in full versions.

Ohioboy

(3,222 posts)
29. Wow! Excellent response from Joe Biden!
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 05:06 PM
Sep 2020

Did anyone notice her body language, how she made a nervous swallow as soon as Joe said "Two ways"? He immediately responded with sensible, well thought out plans. He used facts she wasn't expecting him to have. If her plan was to make him look bad, she did the opposite.

peacebuzzard

(5,124 posts)
33. it was obvious she had rehearsed well for the moment.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

Thanks for the background info on this infiltrator.
Biden was respectful confronting this planned q&a.

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