My brother's excellent facebook post about the football game last night

[cherish44]

"Oh the irony... Scott Walker's union busting state has their pro football team get screwed by scab refs.......lesson......sometimes you get what you pay for Wisconsin....Bahahaha. Next up your children's education and public safely...."

[seabeyond]

1. ya know. people may not pay attention to politics and what happens with teachers. but, football...

now that has an audience with passion to be pissed.

[legman2]

24. You get what you pay for?

Of course you get what you pay for, so when you bust a union and/or get replacements who are not as skilled, or you legislate a union and get early retirements or more privatizations or your workforce, then your workforce is just like these replacement refs (bad and incompetent to a large degree). Will these refs get better? Probably over time, but in the meantime the NFL machine will start to lose customers, like me. They blacked out the Thursday night, Packer Bear game last week all over WI (NFL network) and the media stated it was network programming which is was not. Many sports bars do not even carry the NFL network.. Remember when cable t.v was sold to the public as totally uninterupted programming (i.e. no commercials???)??? Well, you now have commercials and pay for the privilege. It'll be in our lifetimes to see pay per view pro sports, the NFL being probably the first venue to go this route. That is when they will lose many more customers. I'll find more time then to do sosmetihing better than sit around and watch a violent (but entertaining) sport. Seattle got away with more blown calls than the Packers and I am not even a Pop Warner ref.

[a kennedy]

2. So true.....

Hope others see the irony also. edit: spelling

[Octafish]

3. You get what you pay for...

Screwed by scab refs.

Thay is excellent serious fun.

[Hotler]

4. Kicking this . n/t

[Paladin]

5. Hope This Gets Wide Distribution In Wisconsin. (nt)

[pangaia]

6. Most football fans will never make the connection.

[snappyturtle]

8. LOL! You're right!..nt

[DefenseLawyer]

20. The majority of people in the country are "football fans" to some degree

Just because you are not a fan doesn't make everyone who is an idiot.

[pangaia]

30. I AM a football fan. :>)

[heaven05]

7. ???

the ref's union was broken up? I don't follow pro sports, because money is, as with everything in america, too much of a god to people. Huge money corrupts sports as it corrupts every thing and person on this planet. Sports fans I salute your loss.

[Indpndnt]

10. The refs are currently locked out by the owners.

The replacement refs are doing a bang-up job, though.

[VenusRising]

9. The Packers are a publicly owned team.

It's not the same as being owned by a fat cat millionaire. Again, regular people get screwed.

[4lbs]

11. 52% of those "regular people", the "public owners" decided to keep Walker and his union-busting.

Serves them right.

[VenusRising]

18. Actually, people outside of Wisconsin own shares, too.

[WestWisconsinDem]

12. It's not a union busting state.

Let's not paint with such a broad brush. I am a Packer fan but more importantly a union supporter who worked like hell to recall Wanker. I have two kids in the public schools here. Give us a break.

[BlueMTexpat]

14. Thanks for stepping up and fighting the good fight.

That takes courage and you showed it.

You have a lot of support outside WI - in spite of an occasional tendency to paint with too broad a brush.

[silvershadow]

15. Thank you for the reminder. Hoping and praying Wisconsin goes blue in November. n/t

[Viking12]

17. Not a union busting state?

R U Series?

[WestWisconsinDem]

19. fuck you- I am "series"

We have a union busting governor, and a lot of dumbasses who supported him. However, to say Wisconsin is a union busting state paints us all- liberals included- with the same broad brush. This kind of idiotic bullshit really pisses me off. Write off a whole state because there were enough residents here too stupid or uninformed to recall a very bad governor... you truly are a pile of dung if that's what you're intending to do.

[Viking12]

21. LOL. So the state was progressive when 52% supported unions?

Sorry to ruffle your feathers, but a state is defined by the policies that it enacts. Bust unions and you're a union busting state. Repress votes and you're a vote repressing state. Until those policies are overturned, it is something we'll have to live with.

BTW, notice my avatar: I'm a WI resident.

[WestWisconsinDem]

22. don't care where you're from

To say "union busting state" is just plain stupid. Wanker is a union busting governor. There's an important distinction. The state does not equal its government, even in the deep south.

[dogknob]

27. You & your friends are due a great deal of thanks & respect for your efforts. However...

"Effort" obviously ain't enough.

If you have a union-busting Governor who survives a recall effort because union-busters owned your recall election, you live in a union-busting state. It ain't pretty and it ain't funny, but it's the truth.

When Wisconsin can successfully get those trolls out of office, your status as a union-busting state will cease. Then and only then.

If I ever find myself in a position to help you from California, I will. Absolutely.

Now what I DO NOT want to see is all of those Packers fans knee-jerking credit to Ryan when the refs come back before the election, but frankly I'll be re-setting my watch when, not if, that happens.

[WestWisconsinDem]

28. right...ALL of us Packer fans love Paul Ryan

Paul Ryan claims to be a Packer fan. Paul Ryan is a Republican. Therefore all Packer Fans are Republicans.


Let's see what else we can do with this logic. Arnold Schwarzenegger was in The Terminator. Arnold Schwarzenegger cheated on his wife and is a republican. Therefore everyone who likes the Terminator movies is a republican and cheats on their spouse. Wheeee! Idiot logic is lots of fun!

[dogknob]

29. Get real, WWD...

"All those Packers fans" does not mean all Packers fans. It means that a large number of football fans, particularly Packers fans because they lost a game to a blown call made by scab refs, are going to look favorably upon whichever public figure can attach his or her name to the settlement that returns the real refs to the NFL -- and if that person is a Wisconsin politician who is currently running for not one, but two political offices, he or she is going to get a boost from a lot of people who love football more than their fellow humans.

Over in my neck of the woods, Chargers owner Alex Spanos recently lost his sweetheart deal with the city of San Diego in which the taxpayers bought up all unsold tickets to avoid a TV blackout; the city could no longer afford to do it.

Did most Chargers fans think about how that decision helps the local economy the first time a home game was blacked out on TV? No.

Were they thankful that because of the decision, the city now has the money to build a much-needed new central library? No.

Most football fans care way more about their team than they do about a great number of things that are way more important. I'm talking about the same people who voted for McCain because they thought Sarah Palin was hawt -- people who do not and choose not to know anything about what's really at stake in this election.

I wasn't trying to insult your state; Ryan has a strong motive for wanting to hitch a ride on this debacle, whether you want to see it or not.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

13. Stolen And Used As My Facebook Status--Thanks To Your Brother!

[lastlib]

16. and you pay for what you get!

Good post, I hope it gets seen and read (while schools still teach reading) and, most of all, UNDERSTOOD! far and wide--Wisconsin and all across the country!!

[Rider3]

23. You have a very smart bro.

Good for him!

[Norrin Radd]

25. kr

[aquart]

26. Oh, that is good.

No link so I can like it?