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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:24 AM Jan 2012

Soldiers With Automatic Weapons Checking IDs at a Social Security Office in Florida

Training excercise startles locals

The Daily Commercial

MILLARD K. IVES | Staff Writer



It may have looked like they were ready for war or some deranged person looking for his late Social Security benefits.

But it was only Federal Protective Service officers with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security who were conducting a random training operation early Tuesday morning when they surprisingly showed up at the Social Security Administration office in downtown Leesburg.

With their blue and white SUVs circled around the Main Street office, at least one official was posted on the door with a semiautomatic rifle, randomly checking identifications. And other officers, some with K-9s, sifted through the building.

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According to one Homeland official in the Washington, D.C. office, Operation Shield. is an effort that uses routine, unannounced visits by FPS inspectors to test the effectiveness of contract guards, or protective security officers -- "detecting the presence of unauthorized persons and potentially disruptive or dangerous activities."

http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/010412shield

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Soldiers With Automatic Weapons Checking IDs at a Social Security Office in Florida (Original Post) kpete Jan 2012 OP
Looks more like an exercise in intimidation. nt DCKit Jan 2012 #1
^ This and / or LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #8
Meant to say that too. DCKit Jan 2012 #28
+100 Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #19
This in the Land of the Free. RC Jan 2012 #2
Because brown-shirt-types conjure all types of ugly and horrifying fascist images? indepat Jan 2012 #18
"But it was only Federal Protective Service Officers with the US Dept of Homeland Security who were Pachamama Jan 2012 #3
what's with the automatic weapons? limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #5
Not automatic weapons. Read the exerpt. MineralMan Jan 2012 #26
Oh yeah... that makes it so much better. TalkingDog Jan 2012 #27
Would you have read the thread if it said "FPS officers check ID's at federal building?" SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #30
Where is Obama on this? nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #20
Welcome to the surveillance state... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #4
What makes you thing he will? RC Jan 2012 #6
and what if you refused to surrender your ID? Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2012 #7
Sad that these offices need guards... ellisonz Jan 2012 #9
Florida is going off the deep end. Are they leading the way for the right-wing utopia? gtar100 Jan 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #11
I am starting to think these are Krugman's "Aliens" -- threat based stimulus spending. Pholus Jan 2012 #12
Leesburg VA??? newfie11 Jan 2012 #13
Leesburg FLORIDA n/t Ineeda Jan 2012 #17
This is no reason to believe the US is becoming a police state lunatica Jan 2012 #14
Not soldiers, just members of the Geheime Staatspolizei up to their usual intimidation tactics hobbit709 Jan 2012 #15
...closer it creeps--step by step, inch by inch... Ship of Fools Jan 2012 #16
If I had a family member working at a federal facility onenote Jan 2012 #21
If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about. Gold Metal Flake Jan 2012 #22
Not a soldier, not an automatic weapon hack89 Jan 2012 #23
Is that a soldier? Is the weapon an automatic weapon? MineralMan Jan 2012 #24
Practice for Election Day, 2012 Hugabear Jan 2012 #25
Almost as scary, but those are federal cops nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #29

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
3. "But it was only Federal Protective Service Officers with the US Dept of Homeland Security who were
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:48 AM
Jan 2012

.....conducting a random training operation....."

Whoa...that is a scary statement.....

So these are what, ex-Blackwater private contractor police for the Federal Govt who operate on US Soil and getting a little logistical practice operations in?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
26. Not automatic weapons. Read the exerpt.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jan 2012

They weren't soldiers. The weapons were semiautomatic. It's in the excerpt. The title is bogus, and isn't the title use in the article at the link. The OP wrote an erroneous title.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
27. Oh yeah... that makes it so much better.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jan 2012

Don't give a rat's ass about the title. Old people having the bejeebus scared out of them by men with WEAPONS is unacceptable.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. What makes you thing he will?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:37 AM
Jan 2012

After signing the NDAA - The Defense Bill? We know what's in that one.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
7. and what if you refused to surrender your ID?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:48 AM
Jan 2012

would you be secretly and indefinitely detained? Where's the National media about shit like this, not just a local newspaper. Oh I forgot they're busy covering 1/2 dozen clowns all saying the same thing.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
10. Florida is going off the deep end. Are they leading the way for the right-wing utopia?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:16 AM
Jan 2012

I guess they're going to learn the hard way about that old adage "be careful what you wish for".

Response to kpete (Original post)

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
12. I am starting to think these are Krugman's "Aliens" -- threat based stimulus spending.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:27 AM
Jan 2012

We spend sooooo much to make that guy look like a total badass rather than being cheap and giving him the rusty 0.38 and radio that would be APPROPRIATE for security at a place like that.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
13. Leesburg VA???
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:57 AM
Jan 2012

For Gods Sakes this country has gone off the deep end! Is there like something in the water to increase insanity???

onenote

(42,687 posts)
21. If I had a family member working at a federal facility
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jan 2012

I'd be most happy that the building was subject to security measures and that there was an ongoing effort to determine the effectiveness of those security measures. There are enough nutjobs fueled by anti-government rhetoric and with easy access to weaponry that I would not want a loved one working in what could readily be considered a target in the dim hopes that nobody would try anything.

Yeah, it sucks that its come to this, but you can't ask people to take jobs in government and not protect them.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
23. Not a soldier, not an automatic weapon
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jan 2012

these are the federal law enforcement officers that protect government buildings. Don't you think there is a need for them?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
24. Is that a soldier? Is the weapon an automatic weapon?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012

That is your title, not the title of the news story. You've introduced two inaccuracies, even before readers began reading. You made incorrect assumptions when you wrote an erroneous title. Both are clearly not true, even from reading your exerpt of the article. Why did you write that title?

From the article, the man is clearly not a soldier. The weapon was not identified by model, but is identified in the story as a semi-automatic weapon. I don't like the situation at all, and think this is way excessive at an SS office, but accuracy is important.

It was a federal officer, not a soldier, and they are issued semi-automatic weapons. There are differences on both counts that are important. Why not just post the title from the story, instead of editorializing incorrectly by writing an incorrect title?

I guess I don't get it.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
25. Practice for Election Day, 2012
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jan 2012

I'm sure that Rick Scott will find some excuse to have heavily armed National Guard troops outside select polling places. You know, those polling places that might be in "dangerous" areas (translation: those that are predominantly likely to vote Democrat) in order to provide "protection".

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. Almost as scary, but those are federal cops
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jan 2012

They are not soldiers, not even coasties, the only ones using blue BDU's.

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