Shopper flaunting his gun in checkout line shoots himself in the groin, Oregon cops say

[Zorro]

A man showing off his gun to a friend accidentally shot himself in the groin and leg, Oregon police said.

Lincoln City Police said in a Monday news release that Nicholas Ellingford, a 29-year-old from Lincoln City, Oregon, shot himself Sunday at a supermarket.

“Investigation revealed that Ellingford was inside the store and as he was waiting in the checkout line, he un-holstered a Glock 9mm semi-automatic pistol from his waistband so that he could show it off to a friend,” police said in the news release.

Ellingford reportedly was holding the gun near the front of his pants when he accidentally pulled the trigger, police said.

https://news.yahoo.com/shopper-flaunting-gun-checkout-line-001726879.html

I encourage all Republicans to own the libs this way.

[CrispyQ]

1. I hope it leaves him incapable of reproducing.

Dumb fuck.

[Illumination]

30. It's called divine intervention!...

[whistler162]

115. Actually if he hasn't reproduced

it is a Darwin Award.

[PufPuf23]

124. or a gun humpers vasectomy. nt

[Boogiemack]

156. Whew! Good thing nothing was there to be injured.

That was close!

[CaptYossarian]

35. It was a 9mm bullet. About as wide as the (Forum) above this line.

On an overcompensating Neanderthal like him, there's nothing left.

He won't have the balls to do that again.

[HermitageHermit]

58. Modern urological science can do wonders

This young man should lose no procreative powers.


Nowadays, they can even do penile transplants

[Le Roi de Pot]

72. Which for this dude will be equivalent to a Brain Transplant

[lunatica]

90. LOL!

Well, his lack of penis now matches his brain capacity. Karma has evened it all out. Balance has been restored.

[Crunchy Frog]

119. He'll still probably need a bigger gun to compensate for the loss.

[ornotna]

122. That might help little joe out

Not sure it they can save the twins if they were blown to smithereens.

[HermitageHermit]

146. doesn't sound like it

The report from the Lincoln City police on the injury sounds like the round missed his testicles. “The bullet entered into Ellingford’s groin area before exiting out the lower thigh of his leg, narrowly missing his femoral artery,”

[ornotna]

148. This guy was very lucky

He could have been gone very quickly had it hit the femoral artery. He's a dumb ass, but a lucky dumb ass.

[gopiscrap]

70. I am hoping it leaves him incapable of

voting

[lindysalsagal]

74. My first thought: are there little morons at home already?

[Bettie]

96. MY first thought as well

seriously a clueless human.

[Aristus]

2. Guess he won't do that again...

[malaise]

3. Darwin failed

That is all

[ToxMarz]

16. Unless he hadn't yet procreated

and no longer can. Then Darwin WINS!

[malaise]

33. Darwin was supposed to eliminate that possibility

by letting him take himself out of the equation

[sakabatou]

104. You get a Darwin Award by taking yourself out by death or you can't procreate

[malaise]

105. OK

I thought it was just the first part but that will work.

[whistler162]

126. From the source

https://darwinawards.com/rules/

"
Rules
So how are the Darwin Awards actually determined?

Nominees significantly improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from the human race in an obviously stupid way. They are self-selected examples of the dangers inherent in a lack of common sense, and all human races, cultures, and socioeconomic groups are eligible to compete. Actual winners must meet the following criteria:

Reproduction
Out of the gene pool: dead or sterile.
Excellence
Astounding misapplication of judgment.
Self-Selection
Cause one's own demise.
Maturity
Capable of sound judgment.
Veracity
The event must be true."

[Richard D]

42. Darwin succeeded! (nt)

[whistler162]

116. Only if he hasn't sterlized

himself or didn't reproduce already. Darwin Awards are for taking oneself out of the gene pool, death is one method losing one's ability to reproduce is also a method.

[Crunchy Frog]

144. Even if he's already reproduced, it still counts if

he's rendered himself incapable of doing it anymore. He's still removed himself from the gene pool, just as much as he would have if he'd gotten himself killed.

That's assuming that he actually has destroyed his reproductive capacity. Hoping that's the case.

[Bengus81]

4. Hope it took a nut or two of off that asshat...........

Crazy fuck could have easily killed someone

[Demsrule86]

5. This idiot could just as easily shot an innocent person...no open carry period.

[Kaleva]

13. No need to have a round in the chamber

[Act_of_Reparation]

28. I'm against carrying in general, but...

...if your line of thinking is, "I need this thing to protect myself," then not having a round in the chamber is a pretty dumb move. It takes time to rack a round, and one thing you do not have in a self-defense situation is time. Whoever gets the jump generally wins.

[Disaffected]

121. Sure,

if you live at the OK Corral.

[Act_of_Reparation]

164. I don't see how where you live correlates with reaction time.

But then, there's a lot I don't know about geography.

[Disaffected]

166. It's a metaphor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfight_at_the_O.K._Corral

[Act_of_Reparation]

172. It was sarcasm.

I know what the OK Corral is.

The point is, if you carry a weapon for self-defense, an empty chamber negates most of the benefit the weapon would have given you. Might as well not carry a gun at all.

[Dial H For Hero]

77. I disagree. Glocks can be safely carried with a round in the chamber. Only improper handling

will cause a round to "accidentally" go off.

[Kaleva]

109. I think we both agree that level of training ought to determine what, if any, type of gun to have

The man in question has shown himself to be unqualified to have any kind of gun. For a highly trained person, a Glock or any other semi-auto with a round in the chamber may be a excellent option. Many, IMHO, don't have that level of training in handling a semi-auto so not having a round chambered would be an extra layer of safety in case they or someone else mishandles the gun.

[Locrian]

137. yes

cocked and locked, no safety, striker fire guns (glocks) are NOT a casual owner type of gun.
But it's now the "choice" for a lot of very new, very casual, very inexperienced people who like to think they're top shots.
Until they shoot their nuts off....

[Blue_true]

120. Exactly. nt

[JHB]

6. Another "responsible gun owner" heard from.

[lpbk2713]

7. I hope everyone just stared at him.

And thought "You simple minded fuck."

[CaptYossarian]

41. We might find out soon.

Don't stores have a camera trained on each register?

Think of the possibilities: Slow motion, a laugh track, and the actual audio of his voice changing from "truck commercial guy" to mezzo-soprano.

If I were in line, you'd also hear applause.

[Illumination]

132. Oh now that's funny Capt!...

[CaptYossarian]

162. I've always believed the companies with security cameras save their "greatest hits"

for the employee Christmas party.

[Illumination]

163. You might have something there Capt! Looks like everyone enjoyed a good laugh about this

with all the posts! It reminds me of the sinking boats on Lake Travis & everyone went nuts! Gosh darn it. Knew I should have joined DU long ago...

[CaptYossarian]

165. Let the neocons provide the comic relief to go with the anguish they create.

It's "fair and balanced".

That reminds me--I haven't called Mike Pence "Frank Burns" for a while. I wonder what he's been up to.

[Illumination]

130. What you mean is that you hope everyone just stared @ his new unenhanced features?

[Buns_of_Fire]

8. It never gets old...

[barbtries]

14. i never saw that before

omigawd that's so funny.

[CaptYossarian]

44. The difference here is that the guy in the video was still a baritone.

The Oregon guy is now covering Frankie Valli songs.

[Dem2theMax]

106. It's so true! It never gets old!

Bless you. I really needed to laugh.

[louis-t]

110. Was this the guy that was gonna "show you how to safely

handle a gun", that I refer to all the time?

edit to put in a

[JudyM]

9. FB pic

What we’d expect...





https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2020/09/nicholas-nik-j-ellingford-lincoln-city-oregon-man-shoots-self-groin-showing-off-gun-supermarket/

[Lochloosa]

15. Fine Specimen...

[Jim__]

22. I thought that story needed a picture. Thanks for posting it. - n/t

[Illumination]

24. Let's see how tough he is now minus his weiner & jewels!...

[CaptYossarian]

45. No wonder!

That's the wrong trigger finger.

The real shame is that he can't count to eleven anymore.

[3Hotdogs]

125. Ya mean, 21?

[CaptYossarian]

161. In his clan, anything over 16 is "gifted".

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

65. How about we put that pic on a giant billboard in his town with some choice words about what he did?

Maybe do that for all such belligerently ignorant assholes who hurt themselves or other through such negligent behavior. It wouldn't be nice, but I'm sick of Dems bringing a butter knife to a gun fight, so to speak.

[greenjar_01]

100. Three percenter, a neo-Nazi

Fantastic.

[FuzzyRabbit]

108. Good for him for wearing a mask.

Gotta give credit where credit is due.

[JI7]

139. I don't think it has anything to do with the virus. I think it's part

of his wannabe tough guy outfit.

[oasis]

138. "You talkin' to me?"........"well...oops".

[AllaN01Bear]

10. and the saftey was off. dumb , dumb dumb dumb

[Kaleva]

17. It's my understanding that Glocks don't have safeties

They have instead 3 safety mechanisms which are not effective when the gun owner puts his finger on the trigger and the gun has a round in the chamber.

[Baclava]

59. Keep it in its holster and it wont go off, the brain is always the #1 best "safety"

[niyad]

68. According to the story, it was in his waistband, not an actual holster.

[Baclava]

80. Exactly! NEVER carry a Glock unless its in a holster, it will only go off if trigger is pulled

It actually has 3 internal safties, you can throw it across a parking lot and it wont go off with a round in the chamber and ready to fire

But stuffing it in your pants is the stupidest idea of all time, ask Plaxico Burress

[jmowreader]

67. Exactly

Glocks are designed not to off if you drop them, and they don’t.

They are also designed not to fire if the trigger gets snagged on the holster or your clothes, and they don’t.

But for fuck’s sake, what kind of a gun owner puts his finger on the trigger while he’s taking his shootin’ iron out to show it to someone?

[angrychair]

157. More specifically

why on Earth would you draw a gun in a grocery store line...right before a cashier.

How do we know he wasn't trying to rob the place?

How am I supposed to know if he's a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun in that situation?

[iscooterliberally]

11. He got humped by his own gun. n/t

[George II]

12. Didn't rwnj Bob Barr, r-AL at the time, shoot himself in the foot at a gun show?

[Timewas]

18. Idiots

Carry glocks with a round in the chamber, glocks have no safety..Stupid

[trc]

27. Got into an argument about glocks

I said I would never own one because, while it does have a safety that prevents it accidentally discharging if dropped, that safety is built into the trigger. Great for LEO's, terrible for any one who might carry in a purse...or put their finger on the trigger when pulling it out of their pants. And yes, you always keep your finger off the trigger, unless you are showing off cause your an idiot, or are an FBI agent reaching to quickly pick your weapon after it fell out of your concealed holster while you were doing a back flip, for example.

[Dial H For Hero]

79. Hm...by that logic, you wouldn't own a double action revolver.

[Codeine]

113. Can we keep the gunhumper mutual masturbation

out of normal folders, please? There’s a gunhumper dungeon for these silly-ass arguments.

[Dial H For Hero]

135. How charming....

[Timewas]

128. Apples

To oranges

[Timewas]

131. Not the same

A Glock requires about 5lbs pressure to fire, a double action might take as much as 10 to 12 lbs which would require a lot more effort and much much less chance of accidental discharge.

[Dial H For Hero]

141. With a standard 5.5 pound connector Glocks run around 6 to 7 lbs, and the heavier double actions

can certainly be 10 to 12 lbs, as you say....but plenty are in the 8 to 9 lb. range. In many instances there isn't that much of a difference. My preferred choice for concealed carry is a Sig P365, which has a trigger pull of around 6 lbs.

[Timewas]

143. True

They can vary by as much as 2 lbs, and most professionals and well trained civilians can get away with a Glock with a round in battery but the average out there don't have the training to be safe

My carry is Beretta Storm PX4 in 40 which is about a 12lb pull

[Dial H For Hero]

145. Fair point. There are many people carrying whose entire training regimen consists of going

to the range and putting a single box of ammo (if that) through their gun. I've never recommended that someone own firearms for defensive purposes if they're not willing to put in the effort to gain at least minimal competance.

[Timewas]

129. If you carry

A glock with a round in the chamber you better have serious trigger discipline keep it clear until actually ready to fire and then only if pointed in a safe direction..

[Dial H For Hero]

142. This should be the case with any firearm.

[Sancho]

19. People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

[BarbD]

60. Thanks for the very sensible arguments.

Am making a copy for future reference.

[ashredux]

20. He's an idiot. Glocks just don't go off easily, even though they have no safety

[Evolve Dammit]

21. Posing with guns, middle finger and shooting yourself in the nuts is no way to go through life son.

[Illumination]

25. A dead (almost) give away that he's a republican!

[sure why not]

23. Now, there's a good gun with a bad guy!

[sdfernando]

29. "narrowly missing his femoral artery"

Article doesn't say his political affiliation but I think we can all guess what that is. A little to the left or right and he probably would be looking at a Darwin Award nomination.

Or maybe a bit higher to the left or right and he could be famous for shooting his own dick off...and still be a Darwin Award nominee.

[flamin lib]

31. The immortal words of the Outlaw Josey Whales,

"A man's gotta' know his limitations."

Also, "Diein' ain't much of a livin' boy."

[ResistantAmerican17]

32. Moron cocked a glock...it's a semi auto so he's clearly not the brightest bulb in the box.

[sarisataka]

36. That is self correcting behavior

with possible reinforcement-

“However a criminal investigation is ongoing, as Ellingford did not have a concealed handgun license and his act was found to be reckless since it placed several people in danger.”

[redstatebluegirl]

37. Well his thing was so small he most likely missed it entirely.

[Hotler]

38. While pulling out his gun and holding it with his left hand..

he grabbed his firearm with his right hand and when comparing the two the firearm discharged blowing off the end of his gun. Bystanders witnessing the event were heard as they walked away, "the firearm was bigger". Now his gun is a true conceal carry.

[CaptYossarian]

47. He should have compared it to his phone.

Let freedumb ring.

[JohnnyRingo]

39. Thank goodness he didn't hurt anyone else.

...as so often happens when people begin playing with a gun. It's not a toy.

[LW1977]

40. At least he can't breed

Well... anymore

[BumRushDaShow]

43. So he shot his junk

[Mariana]

46. I devoutly hope that is what happened. nt.

[NBachers]

48. Dude! Ya shotcher balls off!

[Crunchy Frog]

49. I know it seems funny, but this is serious. A person could have been injured or killed.

I hope he gets prosecuted for the negligent discharge. (No such thing as "accidentally pulling the trigger".)

[melm00se]

50. keep your damn booger hook

off the bang switch until you are on target.

One of the 1st things taught in gun training classes.

[irisblue]

51. Almost hit his femoral artery...🤦

snip-"As Ellingford was placing the firearm back in the front of his pants near the zipper & button areas, he accidently pulled the trigger causing the firearm to discharge. The bullet entered into Ellingford’s groin area before exiting out the lower thigh of his leg, narrowly missing is femoral artery. Officers on scene immediately rendered first aid before medics from Pac-West Ambulance & North Lincoln Fire arrived to take over treatment. Ellingford was transported code-3 to Samaritan North Lincoln Hospital where he was immediately flown, via Life Flight to Legacy Emanuel Hospital in Portland, Oregon.

No one else was injured in this incident, however a criminal investigation is ongoing, as Ellingford did not have a concealed handgun license and his act was found to be reckless since it placed several people in danger."

More at source


source-https://flashalert.net/id/LincolnCityPolice/138299?fbclid=IwAR35-cj9MnnwutLeNGwCPzE_B-jKzyohUd_OqnT5HR-3tzqfilDsUeMWoT4

[NBachers]

153. Not only that, but he was the victim of a huge mobilization of socialized emergency care.

Will the abuse never end??

You payin' for this shit, asshole, or are we picking up the tab for your belligerent stupidity?

[PatrickforO]

51. I shouldn't laugh because that is a serious injury...but...

[iluvtennis]

53. what a jackass. wish he's shot off that ding-a-ling. nt

[LuckyCharms]

55. What a shame.

[njhoneybadger]

56. Fucking asshole, Don't those guns have a safety?

[dumbcat]

83. No, they don't

Glocks do not have a manual safety.

[njhoneybadger]

92. Wow, just looked it up and they said your finger is the safety

[EX500rider]

93. They have a safety, it is built into the end of the trigger, when you pull the trigger it releases.

Which is fine if u are smart enough not to pull the trigger on a loaded gun until u mean too.

[njhoneybadger]

94. Not to good children or dumb bastards

[EX500rider]

151. People shouldn't leave loaded guns around children safety or no & dumb bastards are hard to protect

[dalton99a]

57. Good for him.

[liberalmuse]

61. I had a coworker who gave birth to a little girl.

Their family went on vacation to California. The morning they arrived, the husband went to the trunk to show relatives his shotgun. It accidentally went off and killed their newborn baby sitting in the car seat.

Another coworker had a party at his house and wanted to show off his guns. He kept his safe unlocked. Of course all the kids, including my daughter wanted to hold one. I told him he would not be giving the gun to my daughter until he checked the chamber. "I checked it. It's empty". After a few times of trying to convince me it was not loaded, I told him my daughter would not be holding that gun until he checked the chamber in front of us, so he finally checked the chamber and found a bullet. This guy was ex-law enforcement and deemed himself a responsible gun owner.

[lindysalsagal]

76. guns make people stupid

imho

[Illumination]

134. Terrible stories. Especially the first one. I've had my experience also & for myself believe they're

more trouble than their worth...

[Leith]

62. He sure pwned us libs!

How can we show our faces in public again?

At least, nobody else got injured.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

63. Was the gun cocked?

[Baclava]

66. He's half cocked now,lol

[Dial H For Hero]

81. Glocks don't have an external hammer that you can cock. When a round is put in the chamber,

they're ready to fire. They do have a "safe action trigger", which is a tiny lever in front of the trigger which must be depressed to fire it. They also have a trigger pull that's similar to that of a double action only revolver. Long story short, it takes a deliberate trigger pull to fire it.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

82. It was a humorous sentence...nt

Wait wait wait...humorous is in the upper body...sorry wrong way.

[Dial H For Hero]

85. I'm humor-challenged when I stay up too late and don't get enough sleep.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

112. Hey, H...

[LuckyCharms]

136. The cock was gunned.

[NCjack]

64. For sure, he will keep the gun to fend off hasslers. But, he should go to shooters' school

for remedial training. If anyone needs it, he does.

[titanicdave]

69. ........I Laughed Out Loud......

......when I read this.......it serves the little bastard right for "showing off his 'manhood'".....HA...HA...HA...HA

[calimary]

71. Just desserts.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

73. The latest episode in the ongoing, long running series

"How guns make us safer".

[lame54]

75. Was it a 2 balls or less line?

[LiberalFighter]

78. He had no business unholstering inside the store.

[Mendocino]

84. Check on aisle 3...

...no, were out of nuts.

[Fritz Walter]

86. Schadenfreude

"...denn sie kommt von Herzen!"

Translation: Schadenfreude is the most sublime/beautiful joy, because it comes from the heart!"

[niyad]

91. Ohh, I do love that image.

[niyad]

87. I am not in a charitable mood this morning. With any luck, he will have permanently removed

himself from being a criminally stupid danger to society. Code 3? Immediate airlift? .sounds damned serious, maybe even fatal. One can always hope.

[Blue Owl]

88. Aim higher, douchebag

n/t

[Talitha]

89. I'd pay to see a video of that.

Thank goodness no one except him got hurt, and I honestly hope the store bans him for life.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

95. Probably had an appendix carry holster

Those are accidents waiting to happen.

[LPBBEAR]

97. Departure of the Dumbest......

Cleanup in aisle 3!

[Grokenstein]

98. Gosh! Golly! Didn't he watch the Eddie Eagle videos?

Just glad he didn't kill some innocent person with his carelessness...this time.

[Marcuse]

99. Yes, but will he seize the throne?

Gun Enthusiasts Celebrate Man Who Shot Himself in the Balls as Their King

[link:https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/y3zeew/gun-enthusiasts-celebrate-man-who-shot-himself-in-the-balls-as-their-king|

[mountain grammy]

101. Thank you

For the only laughs I’ve had today.

[BHDem53]

102. He should have left

his bullet in his shirt pocket.

[Withywindle]

103. Thoughts and prayers

Thoughts: what an idiot

Prayers: Gods, please continue to spread karma awareness

[RANDYWILDMAN]

107. I feel better for Lincoln City for now

but Nick will be back, maybe no gun next time.

[Cha]

111. lol@ your "encouraging" words. Oh &

Instant Karma can be a MF!

[Tribetime]

114. So he shot his branze out.LMAO 😁

Funniest thing I heard all day

[Niagara]

117. I believe this is what they call a cockblock.

[Blue_true]

118. Too bad he didn't have it aimed at his crotch.

He should be charged with reckless endangerment. Maybe his friend is ok with him, but he could have killed that person or another person in that store. Those idiots buy guns and don’t familiarize themselves with how to operate the safety.

[warmfeet]

123. He missed in my opinion.

Always aim for the brain. Too bad, so sad. Maybe next time.

[Ferrets are Cool]

127. Later in the story, "he would have shot his penis off

but it was too short to be found by the bullet."

Made up, but probably true.

[Straw Man]

133. Before people get all exercised about Glocks not having manual safeties ...

... I'm obliged to point out that revolvers don't either.

This was extremely stupid handling, and goes against everything one is taught in firearms classes. If you carry, the only time you take your gun out of the holster is when you put it away at night or if you need it to defend your life. If you take it to a gunsmith for repair or to a gun shop for trade-in, it had better be unloaded and in a case, or they will throw your ass out of the store.

[Kaleva]

160. But it takes much more force to fire a revolver then a Glock

The pull weight to fire my revolver in DA is 11 pounds. I believe Glocks have a trigger pull weight of 5.5 pounds.

One is far less likely to have an accidental discharge with a revolver then with a SA semi-auto.

[Straw Man]

167. That's a two-way street.

The pull weight to fire my revolver in DA is 11 pounds. I believe Glocks have a trigger pull weight of 5.5 pounds.

One is far less likely to have an accidental discharge with a revolver then with a SA semi-auto.

And one is far less likely to hit one's target with the 11-pound trigger pull than with the 5.5-pound. It's much harder to hold a handgun steady when you need to apply that much force to make the trigger move. The target pistols I shoot have trigger pull weights between 1 and 2 pounds. I have never had an accidental discharge with one because I observe the fundamental rule of keeping my finger off the trigger until ready to pull it. One can't pull the trigger by accident if one isn't touching it when one shouldn't be.

NYPD had a huge increase in accidental discharges when they went to Glocks. This is because the cops had gotten used to keeping their fingers on the triggers of their double-action revolvers, sometimes even "staging" the triggers (partially pulling them) to get an mechanical advantage. The NYPD solution was to modify their Glocks to a 12-pound trigger pull, thereby negating any accuracy advantage they had gained in the changeover. The results can be seen in the Empire State Building shootout in 2012, in which the NYPD officers managed to land direct hits on three bystanders as well as the perp. (An additional six bystanders were hit by ricochets and fragments.)

There's nothing wrong with revolvers, but they aren't a solution to lack of training.

[Kaleva]

168. I practice point shooting using DA only as taught by Applegate and Col. Charles Askins

"“For the peace officer, double-action practice is very probably all that he should ever do; that is, once he has gotten a rudimentary knowledge of gun-pointing by deliberate and painstaking slow-fire practice. The officer who can slam six shots into a cardboard man-silhouette in the space of three seconds is an exceedingly dangerous gunner and it is to be regretted that more of our officers aren’t trained along these lines… I have done a great deal of double-action shooting with our biggest handguns.” "

https://gunsmagazine.com/campfire-tales-2/past-masters-of-the-double-action-sixgun/

I don't know the last time I target practiced using the sights on my revolver. It's been awhile. I can consistently hit center of mass on a man size target up to a range of 7 yards. I don't practice shooting father then that as my house is 24 feet long and there's only 2 spots in the home where it would be possible to shoot that far. I carry my gun while at home but not off my property unless going to and from a shooting range.

[Straw Man]

170. Sounds like a revolver is the right choice for you then.

I agree that outside of target shooting, DA/SA revolvers should only be shot double action. They are more than adequate inside the home. However, I think law enforcement needs greater capacity and the ability to shoot accurately at a greater distance. And of course, better training in when NOT to shoot.

[Kaleva]

171. One reason I enjoy the debate about guns is there is no one right answer

What works for you may not be the best choice for me and vice versa.

[BigDemVoter]

140. I sincerely hope he shot his penis completely down to a stump. . . .

I hope it is completely destroyed, gone. . . poof.

[burrowowl]

147. That should learn him!

[Aussie105]

150. Probably not.

Some people think guns just make a noise to frighten others. They forget about the flying metal bit.

[Aussie105]

149. Strange!

When I go shopping, I make sure I have my wallet, my keys, and maybe a shopping bag.

But the Glock, the rapid fire auto shotgun, the surface to air missile and the hand grenades all stay home.

(The last sentence may be a slight exaggeration - I don't own any of those.)

Out of interest - our damaged shopper - how much $$$ did it cost him to own the Glock? And his hospital bills might add up a bit.
Good use of money - NOT!

[MadMike47]

152. Ellingford was so embarrassed about what happened,.....

he moved to another town and changed his name to Les Johnson.

[luvallpeeps]

154. So sorry.

That's he chance you take when you wanna rock out with your glock out.

[GoneOffShore]

155. Well, at least he won't suffer from testosterone poisoning anymore.

[mwb970]

158. I would bet any amount that this moron is a trump cultist.

[quakerboy]

159. is he in jail?

IF not, why not? Last I checked shooting someone is illegal.

Unless he had his CC, its my understanding its also illegal in Oregon to be carrying a loaded weapon in public.

[uriel1972]

169. I shouldn't laugh...

but please permit me a wry snicker at least.