Madonna Tells DC Concert Crowd Obama is a Black Muslim

[William769]

We’re not sure if Madonna thought she was being funny when she referred to President Obama as a “black Muslim” at her recent D.C. tour stop, but if so, someone forgot to tell us when to laugh.

http://www.gay.net/celebrities/2012/09/25/madonna-tells-dc-concert-crowd-obama-black-muslim

I watched the video, and yes, she said it. But why? In my opinion the message was great except for that one little part. Is this not more ammunition for the crazies to use? I just didn't understand this, so close to the 2012 election.

[Politicalboi]

1. When is her 15 minutes up?

Take GaGa with you.

[William769]

3. Lady GaGa will live forever in our hearts!

She will never die!

[Webster Green]

9. Gaga is awesome.

I love her music and her politics.

If you are putting her down, maybe you should read a little more about her.

[Whisp]

18. both of them are awesome.

I think some don't like the fact that Madonna isn't a young woman any more and therefore she should be taken off the stage for having less sex appeal to most of the market, or something... only young girls need apply, we don't want 50 year old vaginas, pew!

[bigdarryl]

2. Someone forgot to take there meds

[Whisp]

5. that is very unkind to the scores of people who rely

on medication for health issues.

I thought most of us grew out of this kind of talk.

There is still time for you.

[Whisp]

4. she was mocking

I think that's pretty obvious, maybe not the best way to do it but so big deal.

[seabeyond]

8. ah, well see. i did not hear the mock. but, that one would work for me....

though listening to the whole thing, and the seriousness in her comments, didnt feel like a mock.

[Whisp]

14. maybe what she could have meant was...

what is the big deal IF Obama was Muslim? dunno but

She's a pretty liberal minded and hearted person - I don't for a second believe that she said that in a derogatory way to the President but more to the masses of really stupid people.

[seabeyond]

16. that would work too. putting out "for better or worse" before saying it didnt help it either. nt

[William769]

10. That makes sense.

I just wished it had been more pronounced.

I have to say though it was not obvious to me and left me going WTF?

[seabeyond]

6. why? In my opinion the message was great except for that one little part.

i am asking the same. it is the point she says.... fuck it. my agenda procedes even truth. her ego more important than the damage done. for whatever reason, to show that obama was different even beyond being the first black pres.

but, it was bullshit.

i too was asking

why did she do this

she is not stupid.

[cthulu2016]

7. Her agenda. The damage done. LOL.

[seabeyond]

12. why would anyone seriously putting out a message like she did, shout out muslim?

what sense does that make.

if it were mocking... as suggested, which i can at least understand, there was no smile or indication that is what she was doing.

[Vinnie From Indy]

11. Madonna is the Mommy Dearest of the pop world

Her whole schtick has been to try and shock people. Getting old really sucks for Madonna because she does not have any musical talent and the shock parrt of her success now makes her look like a crazy old lady.

[Whisp]

19. that's like, your opinion, man.

I think she is wonderful and has a great career of taking risks and making some great music.

so there.

[JoePhilly]

13. I think she's hammered.

Overall, she is on point, but she is clearly having trouble standing and maintaining her balance.

She may have intended that to be sarcasm, but because she seems a bit loaded, its hard to tell.

[seabeyond]

15. that was odd too. i was spending a lot of time watching the swaying and imbalance, wondering. nt

[William769]

17. Best explanation so far.

I really don't listen to Madonna these day's, but that would explain a lot.

[Hutzpa]

22. Agreed

nt.

[Missycim]

20. in concert she said if the President wins

she will take off all of her clothes, well if she really wants Obama to win she better do the opposite. Not many want to see her nakid.

[seabeyond]

23. what an asinine thing to say... nt

[Missycim]

24. Not if you don't find her attractive it isn't

sorry if all those out there find her attractive but alas I don't.

[seabeyond]

25. whether you do or do not... yes, it is. nt

[mzmolly]

42. Agreed.

eom.

[William769]

26. You know what I find unattractive?

Your posts. Have a nice day.

[Hutzpa]

21. After watching that

I do get her message and yes it is on the borderline of feeding the racist, but I do believe she
was being sarcastic.

Unfortunately, the dumb fucking tea baggers will feed off it.

[Kolesar]

27. The DFTBs

This thread is pained.

[leveymg]

28. Judging from the "Huey Newton" dancers in her ensemble, I'd guess it was an allegorical statement

Probably meant as praise.

[marmar]

29. Anybody who knows anything about Madonna knows that this was sarcasm.

nt

[EmeraldCityGrl]

30. Rehearsed bit designed to be

controversial. She's a genius at marketing and reinventing herself
to stay relevant at the expense of anyone. Madonna is a wealthy
out of touch entertainer that has contributed nothing given her
wealth and opportunities. I look at Sean Penn once married to her
and what he has contributed. What a stark difference.

[Whisp]

33. Sean Penn beat her up, didn't he?

that was one of the reasons they split...

or am I thinking of someone else?

on edit: Yes, Sean Penn was an abusive partner that did terrible and violent things to her. I hope he has changed but I won't give him any special kisses and dump on Madonna to make her look like the bad guy.

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she doesn't look like a slacker to me. Maybe you are thnking about another person called Madonna.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

39. Not interested in slandering

eiither of them regarding their personal lives. Madonna writes
a lot of checks to charities, I'll give you that. I stand by my opinion
the comment she made about Obama was intentional and designed
to create controversy.

Willard writes a lot of checks to charites as well. I'm sure he appreciates her
ridiculous comment about Obama.

[Whisp]

40. see post 29

I think it's just silly to think she meant that in a teabagger way.

[REP]

31. Isn't Madonna Black?

[aikoaiko]

32. Madonna try to create controversy? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!

[Poll_Blind]

34. That wasn't Madonna on stage. That was a wasted Louise Ciccone rambling.

Michigan girl, doesn't always make sense when she's wasted.

PB

[William769]

35. Ok, I had to look up that name, now I feel like an idiot.

I did learn though she is older than me.

Thanks for getting me to educate myself on this matter.

[REP]

36. Too bad it wasn't Ciccone Youth

Into the Groovy!

[cthulu2016]

37. It is a multi-layered and wry joke

Leaving aside whether it strikes one as funny, I heard it as a complicated line of humour..

If she had said Obama is gay it would be easier to read.

She gives the long wind-up about all these men who died for our right to be different (which for Madonna's live show audiences is readily understood as being about being gay, not black) and then says that for better or worse, it got us a black muslim president, which is some amazing shit.

It's a whiplash... first, almost everyone in the audience is well aware that Obama is not a Muslim, and that RWers say he is as an ignorant slur, and then you get the... wait, isn't being a black muslim compatible with what was just being said? Wouldn't that be cool if things really were that wide open?

She is owning the Muslim thing as a taunt, like, "Yeah... we've got a black muslim president, pecker-wood. Deal with it."

She is also saying that if he was a black Muslim that would be cool. While also tweeting a "some animals are more equal than others" thing... he's black! Hooray. We love diversity! And he's Muslim. Wha???

If she had said that for better or worse, thanks to Lincoln and MLK we have a black openly gay president I think people would have gotten the double-barbed dada of the thing.

It's not a political stump speech, and it is aimed at a heavily gay male audience that appreciates a certain irreverence as a good unto itself.

(If one wanted to be worried about some Madonna show, her revealing her big Obama tramp stamp right after this clip here is at least as edgy.)

[mzmolly]

43. Interesting take.

Makes sense. Thank you.

[mzmolly]

44. You were correct. She clarified her remarks:

“I was being ironic on stage. Yes I know Obama is not a Muslim (though I know that plenty of people in this country think he is.) And what if he were? The point I was making is that a good man is a good man no matter who he prays to. I don’t care what religion Obama is – nor should anyone else in America”

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/mdna

[Politicub]

46. Wonder if the GOP will use the vid of her saying it in a campaign ad?

[CBGLuthier]

38. She has never ever been known for her brains.

I guess this keeps her in the news poor old thing.

[Beaverhausen]

41. She's desperate for attention and look, we took the bait

she is an untalented narcisisstic idiot. Always has been.

[Politicub]

45. Can't watch the video right now. Did she use her weird affected accent

When she said it?