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Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:34 AM

So you believe a guy who's lied over 20,000 times to you...

....when he says crap like he won't the leave the White House if he loses, and votes won't be counted?

C'mon people-most of us are older, have medical conditions where we don't need to be worried 24-7...

Don't be manipulated by certain media and certain players who are trying to worry you and depress the vote...

I wouldn't believe the Orange Asshole if he said the sun was coming up tomorrow...

GOTV AND SAY HELLO TO PRESIDENT BIDEN IN JANUARY!!!!!!!

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Reply So you believe a guy who's lied over 20,000 times to you... (Original post)
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 OP
flor-de-jasmim Sep 2020 #1
BBG Sep 2020 #2
GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #3
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #4
Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #5
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #6
flibbitygiblets Sep 2020 #7
Tommymac Sep 2020 #8
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #9
jayschool2013 Sep 2020 #10
JohnnyRingo Sep 2020 #11
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #12
plimsoll Sep 2020 #13
world wide wally Sep 2020 #14
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #15
SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #16
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #18
soldierant Sep 2020 #17
Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2020 #19
Blue Owl Sep 2020 #20

Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:40 AM

1. And that's just since his term began!

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:40 AM

2. Exactly this

Been counseling the wife and her paranoia for weeks now that all his proclamations are just more lies and diversions. Eyes on the prize.

Ignore the blithering idiot and his blather. At least that is my polite advice. And then usually a ‘fuck that guy’ or two.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:47 AM

3. No, but I trust the people who know him.

Like Mary Trump and Noel Casler. If they tell you to watch your back with this guy, watch your back. The same goes with people like Adam Schiff and Amy Klobuchar, who are also warning us. They are anything but fear-mongers.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:54 AM

4. And the only way most of us can watch our backs is to GOTV

The position he is in now, if he loses the election, is quite different from when he was in business. If anybody thinks that he's going to stay in the White House if he's beaten decisively in the EC...well, I got a bridge I want to sell you

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 07:59 AM

5. Trying to get Democrats to give up.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:14 AM

6. +100000000

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:19 AM

7. America is in an abusive relationship

with its own president

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:23 AM

8. Being wary and watchful are good...panic and gloom are unwarrented imho.

The latter just play into Putin's hands and can depress the vote.

Make a difference - be like a duck.

Get the vote out! Joe & Kamala are depending on you and I.

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:24 AM

9. Absolutely! n/t

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:38 AM

10. That's what happens when you buy the Republican lie

that all nonpartisan media are lying to you.

You'll believe in complete bullshit.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:49 AM

11. I'm concerned about his supporters.

Given the word, they can easily be primed to take up arms to keep him in office. Worse, they will sincerely believe the election was stolen by democrats if he says so. Trump knows this.

The credibility problem isn't with me, it's his cult following that will create a crisis when the time comes for him to leave.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:52 AM

12. Here's a website that will help if you see armed individuals near the polls

ICAP has created fact sheets for all 50 states explaining the laws barring unauthorized private militia groups and what to do if groups of armed individuals are near a polling place or voter registration drive.

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/icap/our-work/addressing-the-rise-of-unlawful-private-paramilitaries/state-fact-sheets/

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:09 AM

13. Depends on what you mean by believe.

Do I believe the GOP plan to steal the election? Yes, frankly I do.
Do I believe trump will refuse to accept the results? Yes.
Do I believe he will try to remain in power after losing? Yes.

Do I believe the GOP will steal the election. They are doing their best, so preventing that from happening is up to us. Do everything in you power to make sure your vote is counted.

Do I believe the rest of the Government will accept the results? Not entirely, some elements won’t, but I think the majority will welcome a return of decency.

This is about radicalizing his base inside and outside the government, authoritarian regimes rarely come to power with majority support. They come to power by radicalizing their supporters and intimidating their opposition. We know he’s quoting QAnnon, I think they’ trying to insure that there is insurrection if they don’t get the results they want.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:13 AM

14. I agree with you 100% but here is what pisses me off...

After putting up with this madman's chose for 4 years and finally kicking his ass in the election, then we have to go through 2 more months of utter chaos, lies, and bullshit lawsuits. ( Drama. Drama. Drama.) before we put our country back in sane hands.
I just wish we could be done with him once and for all Nov.3

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:27 AM

15. I think if Biden wins with a large lead in the EC

There won't be much in the way of chaos from Trump-Just my opinion. Oh, he'll yell and scream and threaten, but he won't be able to back it up

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 09:59 AM

16. Why do we keep saying this?

 

It is no longer that we need to win. We have to win convincingly, or in an unquestionable fashion, or to a degree it cannot be tested. All this does is normalize the cheating. All that really needs to happen is win by one more vote to gather the needed electoral votes. We don’t need to set the bar higher than it has to be. We do theor work for them when we allow this to happen.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:01 AM

18. Gerrymandering is one reason why we have to win like this

I hear you, I know it sucks.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:01 AM

17. There are different kinds of lies, even from the most

pathological and dysfunctional of liars.

No one here believes him on his promise of a CoviD-19 vaccine. Promises of benefits to the people he finds disgusting will never be kept.

But his remarks about his election intentions fall under the category of "Believe the autocrat when he tells you who he is." (Masha Gessen - and she has reason to know.)

He may not actually follow through, no. But if not, it won't be because he is lying about who he is. It will be because he will have been prevented.

And I find that a HUGE motivator to GOTV.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #17)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

19. You are exactly right.

GOTV can resolve this nightmare.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 08:42 PM

20. FUCK TRUMP

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