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Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:22 PM

Repeat After Me, "It Will Never Be 'Normal' Again." : Wry Wing Politics

Good article (IMHO)

Forget raining, it’s pouring Trump scandal books. The past few days I’ve been toggling between Jeffrey Toobin’s, “True Crimes and Misdemeanors” and Brian Stelter’s, “Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth.”

There are separate discussions to be had about both, as there are over Bob Woodward’s “Rage”, the New York Times’ Michael Schmidt’s, “Donald Trump v. The United States” and top Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissman’s “Where the Law Ends.”

But one stark takeaway from Toobin and Stelter is how completely unprepared “the establishment” was for Donald Trump. More to the point both are argue, is how unprepared traditional legal bureaucracies and journalism organizations still are even today, nearly four years and 20,000 lies after Trump was elected … the first time.

The Eisenhower-era of journalism, courts and politics is long gone. And we’re at a point, right now today where tradition-groomed and bound judges, politicians and journalists are have to ask themselves if they’re really going to play this moment as Robert Mueller did? Are they going to continue to respect the “norms” of their professions, all of which have been mocked, abused and degraded by Donald Trump, in the anachronistic hope that eventually, at some point, if not now, November or a decade from now, normal respect for tradition will prevail again?

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:33 PM

1. In 2016, McConnell refused to warn Americans about Russian interference because said interference

was helping Republicans.

That alone should have told everyone that norms are dead.

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Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:56 PM

2. After we flush the # 1, MOST EPIC turd, nothing will ever be the same. Things have been done.


No one stopped it from happening, which means it CAN happen again. That is what this particular bout of chaos has achieved.

Unless legislation is passed to prevent this shit from EVER happening again, IT WILL. I am sure that is/was Putin's secondary goal.

How many times before this has Congress watered down any meaningful legislation to the point of it being useless, as a result of "compromise"?

We are supposed to WANT bipartisan action, using compromise to achieve advancement.

But when the other side insists on controlling women's bodies, when they insist on injecting THEIR religion into every aspect of civil/political/educational reform, when they insist that total and absolute equality is NOT the goal of our American democratic experiment, bipartisan compromise is not, and SHOULD not be acceptable.

We now have to make our politicians understand. Half ass attempts, while bargaining away the very tenets that is our core, is NOT acceptable.

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Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:00 PM

3. A lot of legislation was put in place after Nixon.

I expect the same this time as long as we get the Senate. There will be a ton of legislation if we have all three branches this time.

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