I heard earlier that Covid deaths are predicted to reach over 3,000 a day

[malaise]

by mid-November/December.

Lookin for a link

[beachbumbob]

1. what we have seen in past 6 months, this can very well happen as healthcare system is completely

decimated by the coming surge. The ONLY reason death rates have fallen is adequate care can be given with a system not under duress. Once they reach overload, that all goes out the window. The only intent by trump and his GOP enablers is forced herd immunity with the cost of million of american lives.

Hang on and be doubly safe

[Demsrule86]

2. There is new more contagious and more deadly mutation of the virus in Texas.

Masks and hand washing are way less effective.

[beachbumbob]

3. masks and hand washing may be less effective but still 100x better than doing nothing

[Demsrule86]

19. Of course. But perhaps gloves and other precautions need to be taken...I am going to start

having my groceries delivered for example. I wish to live to see my Grandchild...first one.

[Laelth]

5. Not being confrontational, but do you have a link for that?

Daughter and I are in TX, and I am genuinely curious.

-Laelth

[malaise]

6. Still looking for a link

[Laelth]

7. All good, my friend.

I was specifically asking demsrule86 for a link describing a new and more deadly mutation that has, supposedly, broken out TX.



-Laelth

[Demsrule86]

14. Here is the google search...dozens of articles...and CNN reported about how it affected lungs

today on Jake Tapper I believe. Hope this helps.

[Laelth]

23. It's not just TX, and it's not particularly new.

Houston scientists identified it, but they believe it to be the dominant, national strain.

The mutation is likely similarly dominant around the country, said Musser. But the study only looked at samples collected in Houston.

-Laelth

[Demsrule86]

9. I googled it...there are dozens of articles.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/More-contagious-coronavirus-now-virtually-only-15592599.php

Today, on CNN, they said it impacted the lungs in a more deadly fashion. That may be new. I believe it was on Tapper's program.

[malaise]

11. It was on Tapper

[Laelth]

22. It's not just TX.

Houston scientists identified it, but they believe it to be the dominant, national strain.

The mutation is likely similarly dominant around the country, said Musser. But the study only looked at samples collected in Houston.

-Laelth

[Laelth]

12. Thank you.

Somehow, I missed that story.

-Laelth

[LisaL]

16. It's the same mutation that was predominant in the US from the start.

And it's not "in TX." It's the predominant mutation in the whole of US. And it was from the start, only now it completely dominates.

[Demsrule86]

21. Be very careful...Texas is reporting this...use gloves, masks and maybe don't go out much...take

care friend.

[Laelth]

28. Thank you. I will. n/t

-Laelth

[txwhitedove]

24. I'm in Texas, so this worries me. Found one link:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/covid-19-mutation-may-be-evolving-to-bypass-masks-hand-washing/

[LisaL]

25. It's not a new mutation.

In the so-called first wave, 70% of those infected in Houston, TX had this mutation, now it's 99%.
So it's the same freaking thing there always was spreading in US, just more dominant now.

[LisaL]

13. There is not.

D614G mutation they are talking about was the predominant mutation in the US from the start.

[Laelth]

27. Or, at least since May (if I understand the science correctly). n/t

-Laelth

[Zoonart]

4. Great. 9/11 every day!

Happy Holidays everyone. As Joe said, "What country is this?"

[Yavin4]

8. It may be because of the cold air as more people move indoors

The virus spreads more rapidly in closed off space with recycled air.

[Demsrule86]

17. It is a mutation and is now pretty much the only strain in Houston, I read. I have posted links

above and I did hear it on Tapper.

[LisaL]

20. It is a mutation that was spreading in the US from the start.

The same one they have been talking about for months.

[bullwinkle428]

10. IHME model. Link below. Recall that they were actually very conservative in the early days

of the pandemic, suggesting maybe around 60,000 deaths in the US TOTAL.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=total-deaths&tab=trend

[malaise]

15. Thanks

[bullwinkle428]

18. Possibly SIX-THOUSAND DEATHS PER DAY by January 1, if mandates are eased.

[Klaralven]

26. Unlikely since cases/day would have to really ramp up rapidly in October

It takes 3 to 4 weeks for a case to go from positive test to death.

mid-December to January is more plausible, and 3000 deaths/day wouldn't be unreasonable, since they are now spread across the country, rather than the mid-April 2500 deaths/day mostly in 10 Northeastern states.

Normal average death rate is about 8000 / day, so that would be about 35 to 40% excess deaths.