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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: NYTimes has gotten ahold of Trump's tax returns.
And they're as bad as we thought.
No wonder he's been fighting so hard
Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750.
He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.
As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.
The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)AZ8theist
(5,457 posts)LOCK HIM THE FUCK UP.
former9thward
(31,986 posts)They have not found tax fraud. So where exactly is it?
napi21
(45,806 posts)reviewing them & finding problems. Investigations take a long long time, & get even more complicated as each new return is filed. Even though he has accountants prepare his returns, if he's convinced them to "take some chances" THEY are not the one being investigated, HE IS! This is the tip of a very large iceberg that appears to be melting
!
former9thward
(31,986 posts)Are you telling me investigations take more than 40 years??? He has been filling since the 70s at least. Your comment about accountants and tax attorneys who review the returns is just off base.
AZ8theist
(5,457 posts)Plus it's not 40 years. The Times article is an in depth view of returns from 2010 to 2016 or thereabouts...
liberalla
(9,243 posts)poor grifting trumpers... walking around so fancy and self-important, yet hiding such a deep, dark, shameful secret...
almost makes me feel ... wait... NAH! not doing that!
PNW-Dem
(244 posts)I'm so sick and tired of hearing that evidence against tRump won't make a difference. It should and it will. Only the trolls want us to think that these revelations don't matter.
Also, what's his net worth? Is he a billionaire or not? Haven't heard whether or not his tax returns determine that.
Oh yeah, and one more thing, how's that for an October surprise you m'fer?
liberalla
(9,243 posts)the post I was responding to was: TAX FRAUD TAX FRAUD TAX FRAUD TAX FRAUD
It's an open secret that drumpf is a tax cheat as was his father before him.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)with a financial investigator from Forbes. Sorry, I don't remember his name. He said that Trump actually is a billionaire, worth about 2 billion, which is lower than the figure Trump usually gives.
SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)at $30 billion. That's the figure he uses for his net worth so he could be included in the Forbes 500 richest men. He won't make the Forbes 1,000,000 from here after. Don Jr. and Eric just started counting the change in their penny jars this evening. Ivanka married money, but if they investigate Jared that might change as well! Maybe there is a god, or Karma, or whatever.
jaxexpat
(6,818 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)cilla4progress
(24,726 posts)a few people!
triron
(21,999 posts)kacekwl
(7,016 posts)This will make no difference to anyone at this point except maybe trump. If everyone votes, well you know the rest.
ChazInAz
(2,566 posts)BComplex
(8,046 posts)That's just so wrong on so many levels.
AZ8theist
(5,457 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)Get thee to the Greatest page.
This is all the media is going to be talking about, going into the debate.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)It seems as though the Dems or Resistance have a plan this time.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)StClone
(11,683 posts)Greatest Page with waxed sled runners.
lastlib
(23,216 posts)Why wait any longer to spring it?
It appears that ShitMonkey really is a good businessman, huh?
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Staph
(6,251 posts)September is the new October!
calimary
(81,220 posts)Even has a nice ring to it.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)It's pellucidly clear that trump is a crook and that he's been robbing the federal government his whole life.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Can you imagine the fun Biden will have on Tuesday - if he shows up..
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)excuses/rationale.
StarryNite
(9,443 posts)triron
(21,999 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,592 posts)Aviation Pro
(12,163 posts)Choke, you diseased sphincter.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Couldn't agree more. The NYT timed it perfectly. AND they're planning to release more info in drip drip fashion. Darn, they've taken a page straight from the Idiot's 2016 campaign - releasing info week by week.
Glad this is happening now - they're unmasking the Con for the fraudster that he is.
Joaquin Castro is on MSNBC saying 45's been bought & sold because he needed money & would never have been approved for clearance.
Goodness, i've been bz today & missed the release of the big news. All good - hope this seals his fate.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)to be released. I want to hear all about his losses, his debts, and where he obtains money to stay afloat. Release that information and we've got him.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)revmclaren
(2,516 posts)Ramsey Barner
(349 posts)revmclaren
(2,516 posts)won't have 'piss-poor' coverage of upcoming breaking stories.
woodsprite
(11,911 posts)trc
(823 posts)Sorry, so gross.
revmclaren
(2,516 posts)Who knows what's lurking in it...
dameatball
(7,397 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Kali
(55,007 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)This may well be my favorite DU thread of all time!
One of em, certainly!
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)leighbythesea2
(1,200 posts)Terrible news for rump AND DU puns....
orangecrush
(19,543 posts)He's really pissed off about this!
PTWB
(4,131 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Majority will likely vote before the election.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)that will likely be rather technical.
People vote early n need this info
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Depressing Republican turnout and converting late-voting independents will have, by far, the biggest impact.
If the grab em by the pussy tape has been released the weekend before the 2016 election we would have HRC as president right now.
mcar
(42,306 posts)Most people don't vote on Election Day. Why wait?
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Further, more Democrats are voting early than Republicans. Influencing fence-sitting independents and depressing Republican turnout is by far the most important factor.
This year we will certainly be closer to 50/50 due to Covid. That said, a major story dropped immediately before more than half the electorate turns out is absolutely going to have more impact than dropping that story weeks before the election where the impact will not be as concentrated.
Dropping the story now is fine... if they have something equally large to drop in the days immediately before the election.
mcar
(42,306 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Stuart G
(38,420 posts)be into......? Well I tried. ..............ok one more .......
If at first you don't succeed then try again to get it up......
..oh no, not another limp joke.. Well.............let's try to get a good one in this time....Oh No...
failed again to get a good one up to the crowd...?...Stuart..take a break and play it slow for
awhile...
....Failed again.....back to the bedroom...
Ohiogal
(31,980 posts)They will just say hes being smart, gaming the system.
We need to find out just what kind of shell game hes running, how little his net worth really is, and who he owes.
nattyice
(331 posts)mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)This billionaire is paying far less than they do and they are barely scraping by.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Just give it 48 hours and you will here them regurgitating right wing talking points
1) It is fake news.
2) Companies sometimes show losses, libtards don't know anything about business.
3) Taxes are theft it is good he didn't pay taxes.
etc, etc, etc
that just proves he's a smart businessman. Gee, I wish I could outsmart the government and not pay any taxes.
Demobrat
(8,970 posts)Theyll just take this as another example of what a brilliant businessman he is.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)just say, "Everyone does it, especially the rich. So what?"
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)They're trying to confirm and get some of their own angles before they go with it.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)The tax audit looms.
And within the next four years, more than $300 million in loans obligations for which he is personally responsible will come due.
SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)how much he's pilfered from the U.S. taxpayers since being "president". Not only tax fraud charges, but felony theft charges. His "hair" stylist won't be able to go to prison with him. We're going to find out what that shit on his head is, and what it really looks like!
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Fraud out the wazoo ...
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Can the pee tape be around the corner?
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Putin, some Turkish BS; he'll call in the markers if he hasn't already got their $ in some off shore holding company. And, with a Federal all inclusive pardon for himself and the tRUMP crime family, Supreme court stacked, Federal judges stacked he's got enough $ to tie up every State level claim for a decade. What's he got to worry about? Only his ego.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Truth will out you Killa Con!
Lock him up!
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)The King of Mean? Hmmm, doesn't have quite the same poetic impact.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The picture that perhaps emerges most starkly from the mountain of figures and tax schedules prepared by Mr. Trumps accountants is of a businessman-president in a tightening financial vise.
Most of Mr. Trumps core enterprises from his constellation of golf courses to his conservative-magnet hotel in Washington report losing millions, if not tens of millions, of dollars year after year.
And within the next four years, more than $300 million in loans obligations for which he is personally responsible will come due.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Deuxcents
(16,190 posts)Demanding Biden take a drug test fore or after the debate.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Which makes it a piss poor diversion.
revmclaren
(2,516 posts)ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)and can someone grab that lil rock that flew out his nose?
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Everyone knows that. Its not about them. There are other people participating in this election besides them. And it will be brought up in the debates.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)This will piss people off who end up paying 20 to 30% of their income to taxes every year.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)I think the two are connected somehow...oh yea, money laundering for his Russian Oligarch friends...
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/08/the-biggest-trump-financial-mystery-where-he-came-up-with-the-cash-for-his-scottish-resorts/
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)They're supposed to inherit $30 million each.
crickets
(25,963 posts)👉 money laundering for his Russian Oligarch friends 👈
Illumination
(2,458 posts)Hip2bSquare
(291 posts)The whole truth is finally coming out..great business man my arse. He's finally finally going to get what's coming to him. If it isn't prison, it'll be bankruptcy.
Who's going to loan to him after this? Deutsche Bank?? Probably not... russians... what good will drumpf be to them after he's fired??
Hopefully the end of this charade is near and he'll have to lie in the bed he's made.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Trump's a loser.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)kimbutgar
(21,131 posts)The Billionaire you support is actually a loser who pays less taxes than you the hard working blue and white collar worker. $750 is chump change you pay more than that in taxes !!! The ads can be devastating. Im loving the death by a thousand cuts which will be the thing that brings him down. More stuff is coming that might wake his cult members!
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Hell he even got a reported $72 million dollar refund.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)It's one of the reasons he's their hero.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)and a true Trumper asked my son to tend bar at her home for a Republican congressional candidate she was hosting. She didn't realize my son now hates Trump but he wanted to see what it was like and make connections so he said he would do it. He came home last night and said "Dad these people are nuts, all night all they did was brutally talked about libtards". As a former Trumper it even stunned him. Very discouraging.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)that after Biden kicks Trump's ass in the election, many of those same arrogant Trumpsters will go crawling back under their rocks where they used to hang out before their idol along. Most of them, not all, will all of a sudden lose their voices and go back to whatever useless things they used to do that have nothing to do with politics most likely.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)are separated from their leader. But I will never forget all the Trumpers I now who have exposed themselves as the deplorable s Hillary describes. In fact when Biden wins, I hope there is a place for Hillary if she chooses to serve. Let's say AG or better yet as a newly created Trust Buster position at the DOJ focusing on social media companies like Facebook.
ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)only helps multi millionaires) and say But I might be rich someday too!
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treestar
(82,383 posts)Since he had so many losses to write off - he can't be a good businessman and not pay taxes at the same time.
JI7
(89,247 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
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NCjack
(10,279 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)is no better than her john.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)(1) He's going to lose his job along with the revenue stream from Uncle Sugar;
(2) He's got balloon payments coming due;
(3) His almighty "brand" is becoming worthless;
(4) The IRS is getting ready to pounce;
(5) As is the state of New York; and
(6) He's sure not getting any better looking or smarter.
If he wasn't such a bloated sack of rancid monkey pus, I'd almost feel sorry for him.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Isn't it marvelous!
dmr
(28,347 posts)OMG, your description made me laugh out loud that I woke Jack, the dog. Poor old fella.
But he's back to snoring again. Good boy, Jack.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Now he can lie in it.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
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mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Cant wait until thats recategorized as tax evasion. And then there are his hundreds of LLCs that undoubtedly conceal all sorts of criminal activity.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)Ok, not really, but I pay a hello a lot more in taxes than he has, according to those documents.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The average person pays more in taxes than Donald Trump does because we earn more money in a year, have a higher net worth, and are more financially solvent than he is
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)Is for suckers and losers.
Im happy to pay my share.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)BYE, Mar al Lago
BYE, Trump Tower.
llmart
(15,536 posts)Didn't I read that they were preparing to take his name off it soon?
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... Some (all? most?) are brand licensing deals. The brand is suffering, so the real owners are dumping the trumping.
Trump Tower NY is actually owned by him, and is one of his few profitable ventures. It isn't changing its name.
llmart
(15,536 posts)I think I had that confused with the one in Washington DC maybe?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... re-branding was a Trump resort hotel in Central or South America. As soon as Trump was elected, revenue went to zero. The owners took direct action - they tore the trump name off the facade, physically removed the trump management team, and stopped paying license and management fees.
I think they started to serve a Dark and Stormy Daniels cocktail at the bar.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)#deadbeatpresident
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)"Well, there's an easy way to prove that, isn't there?" say I.
chriscan64
(1,789 posts)Prove they're false with the real ones or shut up.
crickets
(25,963 posts)Dr. Jack
(675 posts)They know which day the winds are blowing and want to be as far away from Trump when he implodes in a few weeks
triron
(21,999 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)spanone
(135,827 posts)MontanaMama
(23,308 posts)The people that need to understand what a con artist he is will not care. However, I will thoroughly enjoy his humiliation.
AllyCat
(16,180 posts)Our family has paid in over that much every year for the past 8 because of Walker tax cuts and then the GOP tax scam in 2018. EVERY F*CKING YEAR. We work an incredible number of hours and this rat bastard paid $750 ???
brush
(53,771 posts)How would the NYT get them before Vance, or do they have something other than his actually tax documents?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... disclosing that their source has legal access to the documents and that they can confirm their authenticity through comparison with publicly available information.
The "legal access" is important because for legally obtained documents first amendment rights are applicable. If the documents were illegally obtained, publication would be more problematic.
They are not providing the documents themselves because, they say, doing so would revile the source.
Renaissance Man
(669 posts)One person who would have access to Trumps tax returns would be Mary Trump. Shes worked with The NY Times already, and she has a pending suit against the Trump family for stuffing her on her inheritance.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)Just get some McDonalds workers out there with their tax bills.
Onward AND Upward
(122 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
John Fogarth and CCR
Onward AND Upward
(122 posts)I bet someone from the Times has called the proper White House liaison and informed them that the story that reveals the Russian money laundering connections, in his returns, is teed up and will break Mon or Tue, and they are wondering if the Con would like to make a statement beforehand...
And you...Boney Carrott...can most likely hit the road!!!
Mcturdle is probably not gonna put your sorry Handmaid's ass through the confirmation process now.
President Biden, please take no prisoners during the debate (if he shows up). Hammer the Con till he cries on stage, it WILL be necessary.
Edited for sub confirmation in place of nomination.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)The Christo-fasciests WILL NOT let this opportunity go in the name of fairness, ethics, or prescident.
They truly believe that their magic man in the sky sent RBG to her grave so their prayers would be answered. God wants male domination, no sexual joy, no responsibility for our fellow citizens, and most importantly, NO TAXES OR REGULATION!
bucolic_frolic
(43,137 posts)that we haven't seen. Government assets have been grifted away?
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)I waited all year for this stuff to be leaked. It had to happen.
Now the next thing we need are the unredacted pages of Mueller's report.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)Anybody know?
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)On things found in Trump's taxes. Whatever we know so far is only the tip of the iceberg
Sancho
(9,067 posts)mcar
(42,306 posts)I complain about them often enough, but credit where it's due.
Wading through now and, wow, what a huge amount of information they have. I can understand why it took so long to assemble the stories.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,175 posts)and now we can say "Prove it".
Ultimately, I don't think he's nearly as wealthy as he claims to be.
Nitram
(22,791 posts)Russians who bought his real estate way above market value to launder their ill-begotten money.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)The don't care that he separates families and locks the children in cages,
that he makes fun of the disabled and derides our soldiers as losers,
that he lies constantly,
that he shares security information with Russia,
that he facilitates tens of thousands of American deaths from Covid,
that he uses our highest office as a money making racket for himself.
We can all extend the list. But his voters don't care about any of that.
The don't care about their religion, their country, their economy.
All they care about is that he pisses off liberals. As long as he does that, they will vote for him.
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)It combines outrage and ridicule. He paid $70,000 for hair care?? What can anyone including his sycophants do but jeer at him?
Peaceful Protester
(280 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:31 PM - Edit history (1)
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marieo1
(1,402 posts)I have one thing to say..............LOCK HIM UP!!! ........................NOW.........let the rest of his years on this earth be spent in prison.
homegirl
(1,428 posts)We all knew it was coming-but, such perfect timing!!!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)WestofDenver
(21 posts)I already have a dollar bet that Barr issues arrest warrants to pursue source(s)
Hotler
(11,420 posts)Barr will come for us.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)all finally going to collapse. Once he's out of office he has nothing to offer bad actors to keep him afloat.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)All one needs to know is he has fought tooth and nail to have his taxes hidden for years.
There was a reason for that.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)(I ask this not having read all the other responses wherein the answer might be contained....)
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)He knows it. Congressmen have gone to jail for avoid much less taxes. This ought to stop ANT SCOTUS appointment right fucking now!! If Mitch continues with his bullshit, he MUST be defeated!
triron
(21,999 posts)StarryNite
(9,443 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Music Man
(1,184 posts)"This just shows how smart Trump is. The IRS is full of deep state liberals, and this proves what a great businessman Trump is. Who wouldn't try to get out of paying taxes? Trump is a genius."
no_hypocrisy
(46,083 posts)I promise to behave and to be good until Christmas . . . . .
hkp11
(275 posts)I think Rachel Maddow will have Susanne Craig from NYT tomorrow night to cover what they found about Drumpf's taxes.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Anyone who has been sitting on the fence trying to decide which way they are going to vote should have no trouble at all with their decision making process as of this moment in time.
Blue Owl
(50,351 posts)n/t
Marcuse
(7,479 posts)Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
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gus1985
(11 posts)I just quit working on my letter to Santa Claus. Love it!
wnylib
(21,433 posts)They say that the NYT story reveals that Trump inflated income to get loans, inflated expenses to get tax deductions, which we already suspected from many reports and comments, but this is evidence of it.
They played Trump's response from a press conference and predictably his first words were, "Fake news. All of it."
Their political analyst said he belueved that this might actually affect his base numbers. He expects to see buttons popping up overnight that say, "I paid more taxes than Donald Trump.
If this comes up in the debate, which is likely, how will Biden respond to the fake news excuse? I hope he's got a good comeback.
OnDoutside
(19,954 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)electric_blue68
(14,888 posts)I got the Hulu 1 month free trial Fri Eve so I could watch S2 & S3 of The Handmaid's Tale, after borrowing S1 from the Library late last year.
It was so compelling (brutal show, brilliantly done) I just had to keep watching. So I didn't have any news until w ? 5 eps to go, I caught a quick comment on fb from an acquaintance.
Wait... What!?!
She gave me a quick answer, I made a quick comment, and went back to binging the rest. So I'll just say...
Bwaahahahaaaaaaa 😜😝😂😂🤣🤣
...for now. (haven't gone to sleep yet)
What an amazing piece of news to be the first thing I read about!!!
Can't wait to read the details, and comments on DU later this afternoon!
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Hopefully the tip of the iceberg and it also shows some dirty connections and deals
Look for a full on twitter nuclear meltdown today! This will be a direct hit to his image
edit: damn that's not an article it's a book! They did a great job, will have to find a few hours to read thru it.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)"not paying taxes" is just going to sound "smart" by his base as in "a lot of big business don't pay much if any taxes" etc.
But if it's money laundering, false reporting, numbers not adding up, etc - that's a different (*I hope) story.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I seem to remember him going through Hillary's returns with a microscope