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As in Trump. The Tax Dodging story is the one to do it. The point is this: Donald Trump FAILED to PAY SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES on his BUSINESS TAXES by paying NO INCOME TAX for 10+ Years. He ROBBED the Social Security Insurance Fund for You, Your Children, Your Great-Grandchildren and Your Great-Great-Grandchildren.
That is the STORY. Period.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)if the cult even matters. The tRumpees are just the tag line of a dull and stupid joke.
Initech
(100,063 posts)When they come to your town and they smash the glass of someone who was trying to get through an intersection, that's when everyone sees your base for what they are. They are the thugs, they are the violent lunatics. I would like to think the MAGA movement is done for now.
sakabatou
(42,148 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)but have never seen the ending.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Believe you/us....we would think so in a majority of the "reveals". This one is different. It sinks like so....
It's easy to understand and easy to get pissed off about. It's Likely Over. We still have to hit the polls - but, it's likely O.V.E.R.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)It doesn't matter what Pussy-Grabber does. These people are fucking STUPID. They are seriously fucking stupid as SHIT. I have NEVER seen the level of stupidity in my life. they are willfully stupid. They accuse everybody else of being "ignorant" and of believing "fake news." It is incredible.
mucifer
(23,530 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Obviously he won't lose his base. But we don't need them. Fuck em.
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Ten years of not paying is barely $80,000. I dont think that is the part of this story to do him in.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)He did not pay Social Security Taxes on HIS BUSINESS (which hits most Working Folks), he did not Pay for ANYTHING (That hits everyone else) and most folks don't like Tax Cheats (a MAJORITY of the Nation).
He's LIKELY O.V.E.R. --unless you support this Tax Cheat?
P.S. -- We are talking about his BUSINESS INCOME that is excess of his PERSONAL INCOME for the Social Security Insurance Fund. FYI.
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)WTF?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Questioning if right thinking Americans would dismiss this Tax Cheat, CHEATING on his taxes while they PAID theirs. You ask a question and we asked one back.
The only ones that would dismiss this are those who support the Tax Cheat and his Cult.
Have a lovely evening.
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Listen, the only point I was making is that THIS is not the thing that his base will be upset overhis robbing the SS fund. They could not care less that he has spoken about eliminating the payroll tax, which would defund SS and Medicare completely.
Sleep tight.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)It's about the Independents and soft Trump voters. The women in the suburbs who like some of his policies but can't stand him, the voters he's desperate to lure back. Even for soft Biden voters, this could be one more straw added to the camel's back, though I think their last straw was SCOTUS.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Do you remember that and its timing reveal?
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)how that turned out.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)And that people should be hoarding food and other necessities?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214124752
JI7
(89,247 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)nothing is over until those of us who want him gone actually vote for Biden and other Democrats.
sarisataka
(18,600 posts)can I stop stocking food?
not worry about giving up the internet?
stop buying condoms?
put down the binoculars?
not try to figure out sides?
take a seat?
not worry about a fight?
not have to LEAVE to stay safe?
has America's reality changed over the last four days?
DFW
(54,343 posts)And the Trumpanzees who DO pay taxes will agree, saying, "see? I pay taxes with my meager income and he pays no taxes with his big income. I wish I were as smart as he is."
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)His supporters arent the only people voting in this election. It really doesnt matter much what they think about it, and its a mistake to frame everything around their reaction when these issues pop up.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)which makes him a terrible security risk.
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)He wants everyone to think he is super wealthy but he has blown all dads money. He is totally incompetent and a fraud.
Bonx
(2,053 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)They are not worried that their racist Messiah is bilking them (and all of us) too. Just more "libtard whiny fake news hoax bullshit".
Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)It hardens the resolve of every thinking American to vote, and maybe gets a few to vote that might not have.
It weakens the rest of his ilk, vanka is looking to be in trouble. Brad Parscale hospitalized after threatening self harm with a gun. He knows hes going to prison!
A winning candidate doesnt ride these kinds of stories all the way to re-election! Hes a loser, and if theres one thing he and his cult cant stomach is a loser..
The NYT says this is an ongoing story that will continue to unfold as they dig deeper into his tax docs. Who know whats to come... so bring it!
Lastly, it gives the msm a salacious story instead of Joe is tied in the polls with....
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Brad Parscale, Trump's former campaign manager, is currently under a Baker Act hold. His wife called the local gendarmerie in on him because he was armed and threatening to commit suicide.
No one, regardless of how depressed they are, threatens to blow their own brains out because their boss didn't pay a measly few thousand bucks in Social Security taxes. Whatever Parscale was threatening to remove from his head with ammunition is bad enough to put the entire Trump family away for life. I've heard conjecture that he was using campaign funds to pay personal debts, and I don't even think that's enough...throw one Trump supporter on the jury and he'll get off because "Mr. Trump should be able to use campaign funds for anything he wants." (Which is not true - there are very specific rules - but the Deplorables don't care.) No sir, whatever Parscale knows is bad enough to cause Trump's base to turn their backs on him.
radius777
(3,635 posts)in that he always comes back alive just when you think he's politically dead.
I thought he was finished when the Access Hollywood tapes came out - no way he could come back from it and yet he did. Then Mueller and Ukraine should've done it but it didn't.
Joe is in a good position but realize that most people don't care much about Trump's taxes, but about his horrible record as it relates to their everyday lives, ie his mismanagement of covid which has resulted in 200k dead Americans, his tax cuts for the rich, his assault on healthcare and preexisting conditons and social security/medicare, his disregard for democratic norms, his war on voting, his racial diviseness and chaos, etc. The tax story helps to strengthen Joe's message but by itself can't knock Trump out.
Cha
(297,150 posts)some Psychotic Shit to play out.