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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:55 AM Sep 2020

David Corn's positive take on last night's "debate". That's A Win For Biden

At the Debate, Biden and Trump Showed America Who They Really Are. That’s a Win for Biden.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/09/at-the-debate-biden-and-trump-showed-america-who-they-really-are-thats-a-win-for-biden/

Donald Trump was talking at Joe Biden, and Joe Biden was talking to America.

That’s what happened Tuesday night during the first presidential debate of 2020. Trump was focused on smearing his opponent, and Biden was trying to connect with voters. Throughout the evening, Trump kept his sneering look fixed upon Biden, as he heaped abuse on Biden (and Biden’s son, Hunter). Trump rarely addressed voters. It was as if he was only bent on creating content for Sean Hannity. Biden, in a stark comparison, often peered into the camera and attempted to speak directly with viewers. At one point, Biden, while responding to yet another Trump assault on Hunter Biden, brought the debate straight to those watching: “This is not about my family or his family. It’s about your family.”

It was clear that the two men viewed their tasks rather differently. Trump’s goal was to bully and soil Biden. He constantly interrupted and talked over Biden, insulting him as much as he could (“there’s nothing smart about you, Joe”) and practically turning moderator Chris Wallace, the Fox News host, into road kill. He acted like a pathetic narcissist: Biden is the threat to his existence, destroying Biden is his only priority. He could not imagine a strategy beyond a DEFCON-1 personal attack. Reaching voters who were not already die-hard Trump devotees was not on his to-do list. Trump doesn’t give a damn about that. He only cares about the Fox-watching cultists who are already in his pocket.

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But Biden did all he could to pull out of the black hole created by Trump’s cray-cray. He often refrained from taking the bait. And when he could, he tried to escape the vortex and tell voters what he would do to help them. On health care. The economy. Climate change. Systemic racism. Sure, he got in his licks against Trump, calling him a “clown” and a “racist”—telling Trump to “shush” and “shut up,” as Trump repeatedly violated the debate rules he had agreed to. But Biden saw his primary objective as selling himself as a normal, caring guy who would go to work for you. He was aiming to appeal to voters, especially those not decided. He is an old-fashioned pol who does believe that trope that success in politics is about addition—adding voters to your coalition.


I didn’t see it but I’ve seen highlights (lowlights?) and read various takes and this seems the best take
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David Corn's positive take on last night's "debate". That's A Win For Biden (Original Post) Roland99 Sep 2020 OP
It was an ordeal for the viewer (unless you are a sadist, frankly). I like hearing from Corn, though hlthe2b Sep 2020 #1
Full article is a good read! MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #2
"He is an old-fashioned pol who does believe that trope that success in politics is SharonClark Sep 2020 #3
He wasn't acting like a pathetic narcissist. CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #4
There were three people on the debate stage last night, Wallace did a bad job, Trump did a bad job dem4decades Sep 2020 #5

hlthe2b

(102,233 posts)
1. It was an ordeal for the viewer (unless you are a sadist, frankly). I like hearing from Corn, though
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:09 AM
Sep 2020

He's always been a sane, calming presence for me.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
2. Full article is a good read!
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:12 AM
Sep 2020

Thanks!!!

The debate made this clear to all:


"...if the election this year is about the soul of the nation, then this debate highlighted that the choice is a damn clear one between a conventional, normy soul and one that is dark and ugly."


SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
3. "He is an old-fashioned pol who does believe that trope that success in politics is
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:15 AM
Sep 2020

about addition—adding voters to your coalition."

That's Biden and that's why he won the nomination.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
4. He wasn't acting like a pathetic narcissist.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:21 AM
Sep 2020

He is one.

Trump sees a debate like a boxing match. Everytime he lays a glove on his opponent, even if he only disturbs one skin cell, he thinks he's earned a point. Trump will never land a knockout punch. Politically, emotionally, and intellectually--he's way out of his weight class.

There was no way an undecided voter could be moved over to Trump's side after this debate. It was a cage match only performed to satisfy Trump's most rabid fans.

dem4decades

(11,283 posts)
5. There were three people on the debate stage last night, Wallace did a bad job, Trump did a bad job
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:22 AM
Sep 2020

Only Biden did a good job. So tell me who won the debate?

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