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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK. ENOUGH! Why does the media keep asking "Why doesn't Trump say he denounces white
supremacists?" We all know why he doesn't say it because he likes them, he is like them and they are a part of his base. Every f**ing time the question is asked, it gives Trump and his GOP stooges a chance to publicly get the message to the white supremacists and the rest of racists, misogynists, homophobes, and xenophobes that they are WITH THEM. The damn media keeps doing Trump's job for him by reaching the audience that they may not reach on FOX. That message get reinforced at least every 30 minutes on cable news and every hour on network news. STOP IT already. Isn't it enough for FOX to be promoting that garbage? The MSM does not have to help them. I want to scream every time I hear a so-called journalist, including some of my favorites, ask that dumb question to which they already know the answer.
Would someone get the message to them?
They ought to be spending more time EXPOSING the talking points given to LAW ENFORCEMENT by the Trump regime to speak nicely about Rittenhouse, the murderous 17-year old who killed two peaceful protesters in Kenosha. THAT is some really big news to cover.

pwb
(10,646 posts)206,000 Dead is what he is hiding with his trash talk. Cable falls for it every time. Your right enough already.
Skittles
(152,119 posts)as if they don't CATER to the white supremacist crowd
SharonClark
(9,948 posts)Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)talk about this and the Proud boys?
OnDoutside
(19,837 posts)voters that this is who you are voting for....an uncomfortable truth. Look at how Repug Senators can't be found for a comment on this, they know it's bad, just like Charlotte. Nice to see that John Roberts on Fox is pushing back on it too.
Caliman73
(11,397 posts)It is easy to get mad at the media for their many mistakes during these past several years. I do agree with your assessment though. White Supremacy and open racial bigotry is uncomfortable for many people, especially when they have been taught to see America as a "melting pot" and having moved beyond racism.
You have a president who is stoking racial fears and trying to walk a tight rope so as to not explicitly state that White people need to start hunting down Black and Brown people, and a political party that has been twisting itself into knots to maintain their dog whistles while not disavowing their more openly racist party leader.
Continuing to demand that Trump explicitly denounce White Supremacy puts him in a bind. The White Supremacists are already activated. Asking a question does nothing to activate them "even more". If he ends up denouncing them, one of two things will happen, they will be deflated and be upset with him, OR they will think that it is part of the "strategy" that he has to follow while he continues to lead the White man back to power. Meanwhile, people who are just now starting to pay attention will have to ask themselves, "Why can't Trump just say he denounces White Supremacy?"
OnDoutside
(19,837 posts)and while this is out there, it makes it so much harder for them to do what they probably really want to do, ie vote for Trump.
I'm currently listening to the It was all a lie audiobook by Stuart Stevens (former Republican Strategist) and it's searingly frank about the Republican Party and his part in it. You can download it here https://b-ok.cc/book/5714737/e25b19
Here's an excerpt
The reason African Americans overwhelmingly reject Republicans isnt based on word choices or phrasing. Its based on policy. It isnt how Republicans are talking to black voters that results in 90 percent or more of those voters refusing to vote for Republicans. Its what the Republicans are doing, once elected. The fact that the Republican establishment is so invested in the myth that their problems are a matter of language is revealing and self-damning. At the root of it is a deep condescension that theythe de facto White Party of Americaknow what is best for black folks, and its unfortunate these black folks dont seem to get it but, you know, they are different and we have to talk to them in a language they can understand.
The reality is just the opposite. Since 1964, black voters have heard the Republican Party with exquisite clarity; more important,
they have seen what Republicans are doing once in office. Its summed up nicely in a chapter called The GOPs Rise as the White
Mans Party in Dog Whistle Politics by Ian Haney López: Where in 1962 both parties were perceived as equally, if tepidly, supportive of civil rights, two years later 60 percent of the public identified Democrats as more likely to pursue fair treatment, versus only 7 percent who so identified the Republican Party.5 Barry Goldwater ran on a carefully crafted platform of coded racism that contradicted his previous support of civil rights legislation. As Walter De Vries and Jack Bass wrote in the 1978 Emerging Coalitions in American Politics,
The Republican decision to exploit the race issue and abandon the option of becoming a party of reform manifested itself in the 1961 speech in Atlanta by Barry Goldwater to a gathering of Southern Republicans. Were not going to get the Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 and 1968, so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are, he declared. Goldwater then spelled it out, saying that school integration was the responsibility of the states. I would not like to see my party assume it is the role of the federal government to enforce integration in the schools.
The ducks were white voters, and in 1964, of the six states Goldwater carried, five were in the old Confederacy (the other being
his home state of Arizona). African American support for Republicans fell off a cliff in 1964 and has never returned. As Hispanic and other nonwhite support plummets for Republicans, I hear many in the party assure themselves it is temporary and will bounce back as soon as the right leader emerges for the party. Thats a hopeful fantasy, as the example of 1964 proves.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)ResistantAmerican17
(3,561 posts)agingdem
(7,359 posts)this is like the media spitting out article after article begging us to "understand" the Trump voter...what's not to understand?...they vote their hate...and Trump gives voice to their hate...
Now it's gee whiz why won't Trump denounce white supremacy..why should he deny what he obviously is......four years of listening to Trump spew bile for "the other" and inciting his worshippers to "take them out"...it's like, dudes, what color is the sky in your world???
MaryMagdaline
(6,753 posts)And non-denunciation caused one Cuban American I know in Miami to refuse to vote for trump.He voted for him last time. Not a Biden voter but at least not a trump voter.
Considering we lost in Florida by 700 some votes, I will use this proud boys thing to push away as many voters as I can.
It was Charlottesville that tanked Trumps approval ratings after all.